B@rt
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I'm actually curious as to how many people HAVE preordered? I think this is fun
Count the posts that say they pre-ordered to get an indication.
I ordered as well, but then again I knew what I ordered....
4sevens EX10 (1xCR123A) and D10 (1xAA), ETA end of June - Teaser pic!
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Count the posts that say they pre-ordered to get an indication.
I ordered as well, but then again I knew what I ordered....
Steve L
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That's evil without details.:devil:Count the posts that say they pre-ordered to get an indication.
I ordered as well, but then again I knew what I ordered....
Well, from what little I've learned. Doesn't CR give longer runtime AND more output?
Plus the light is usually more compact...that's 3 pros the way I see it
And 14500 cells have about 50% more energy in them than RCR123s do.
AardvarkSagus
Flashlight Enthusiast
Now that is some information that I may need to take into account when deciding. If they have more capacity, I might go that route and sacrifice the extra half inch to allow for better backup solutions in the event of an actual emergency. I haven't purchased any li-ion rechargeables at all yet so this might help decide where to start.
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Yapo
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Really? i though they both have about the same capacity?! but then again i have wondered why alot of people go for AA lights and use 14500 instead of just getting the typically shorter cr123 light and running it on 16340
Centropolis
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Really? I didn't know that. Very surprised.
LA OZ
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The question is, does the D10 withstand the 14500 at 3.7V?
AardvarkSagus
Flashlight Enthusiast
I'd be more worried about 4.2V fresh off the charger, but I believe 4sevens said it does. Correct me if I am wrong.
I have seen in this thread several times that both lights will fully function on li-ion rechargeables.
Blindasabat
Flashlight Enthusiast
I am surprised too ...because if have never seen it to be true.
The volume of a 14500 is 20% higher than a 16340 (RCR123), but it as proportianally more surface area which does not contribute to capacity, so its effective volume is only slightly higher. I have seen claims of 750 to 900mAh for both 14500 and 16340, but I seem to recall quality makers claiming 750mAh for both.
And 14500 cells have about 50% more energy in them than RCR123s do.
The volume of a 14500 is 20% higher than a 16340 (RCR123), but it as proportianally more surface area which does not contribute to capacity, so its effective volume is only slightly higher. I have seen claims of 750 to 900mAh for both 14500 and 16340, but I seem to recall quality makers claiming 750mAh for both.
Originally Posted by Thujone
And 14500 cells have about 50% more energy in them than RCR123s do.
carrot
Flashaholic
Both lights are expected to have the same output and runtime on li-ions.
I have never crammed more than 500mah into a protected aw rcr123, and i put around 750mah into protected 14500. I have an unprotected rcr123 that I can get about 630mah into, but I am sure I would see a proportional gain in an unprotected 14500 as well... YMMV.
Sgt. LED
Flashaholic
I'm up again.
The thread marches on! I see now that I am getting a SS bezel, very nice! I gotta say why is the price point as low as it is? I like saving money sure but this is like too good a deal.
As far as capacity of a rechargable.... it's a rechargable, go recharge it. We should all have back-up cells charged and waiting anyway. I remember 14500 cells used to kill the low level on lights so I am still weary is all. The only thing here is if you like a thinner longer light or a thicker shorter light. I like a thicker light, I can hold on to it easier.
If the output is the same for both on an li-ion why not take the one with the tougher SS bezel. Yeah I know this is a recent development.
The thread marches on! I see now that I am getting a SS bezel, very nice! I gotta say why is the price point as low as it is? I like saving money sure but this is like too good a deal.
As far as capacity of a rechargable.... it's a rechargable, go recharge it. We should all have back-up cells charged and waiting anyway. I remember 14500 cells used to kill the low level on lights so I am still weary is all. The only thing here is if you like a thinner longer light or a thicker shorter light. I like a thicker light, I can hold on to it easier.
If the output is the same for both on an li-ion why not take the one with the tougher SS bezel. Yeah I know this is a recent development.
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mchlwise
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It's part of the inside of the light with some volts on top.
That looks an AWFUL lot like a piston/battery sleeve to me. With the top part being the silver button protruding from the back of the light, and the copper-colored ring being an o-ring. Notice also how it's slightly larger in diameter than the cell it would hold.
(This would be where the McGizmo royalties comes in, of course).
I must say that I too am somewhat... concerned... if this is going to be a NiteCore light. Their track record isn't the best. 4Sevens' track record is impeccable, however, and I trust him implicitly. If he's collaborating with them, maybe he can get them on track and have a good product (can't complain about my Defender) that also has some dependable service and support (which I don't feel like NiteCore has right now).
carrot
Flashaholic
I want a Lunasol.
Time for another...
*** UPDATED SUMMARY ***
1. 4sevens is building a new store to accommodate the new products
2. They are on the fenix-store web site so early testers can access them
3. They ARE NOT headlamps
4. Production is well underway
5. It will be Radical & Different (TM)
6. Release time should be 1-2 weeks
7. McGizmo was paid royalty for an aspect of the design
8. IT'S NOT A FENIX LIGHT!
9. The products aren't "pure 4Sevens lights" either
10. 4Sevens will have pre-production units with him @ SE Regional
11. They are not the same as LF5XT
12. Simple and intuitive design
13. Very pocket friendly
14. Initial run will be 500 pcs. of each
15. (Very) possibly a Nitecore flashlight
Early specs:
- 7075 military grade Al
- both models will use both primary (AA and CR123) as well as li-ion batteries (14500, rcr123)
- nickel-plated, "hard", piston drive button
- moderately aggressive knurling
- MCU controlled
- D10 is AA sized
- EX10 is CR123 sized
- EX10 will have a st. steel bezel (not shown on the photos)
- D10 3.5 x 0.75 in (8.89 x 1.91 cm)
- EX10 3.0 x 0.85 in (7.62 x 2.16 cm)
People in the know:
- B@rt
- carrot
- tpman
Official pics:
Leaked pics:
Rodent of doom:
*** UPDATED SUMMARY ***
*** UPDATED SUMMARY ***
1. 4sevens is building a new store to accommodate the new products
2. They are on the fenix-store web site so early testers can access them
3. They ARE NOT headlamps
4. Production is well underway
5. It will be Radical & Different (TM)
6. Release time should be 1-2 weeks
7. McGizmo was paid royalty for an aspect of the design
8. IT'S NOT A FENIX LIGHT!
9. The products aren't "pure 4Sevens lights" either
10. 4Sevens will have pre-production units with him @ SE Regional
11. They are not the same as LF5XT
12. Simple and intuitive design
13. Very pocket friendly
14. Initial run will be 500 pcs. of each
15. (Very) possibly a Nitecore flashlight
Early specs:
- 7075 military grade Al
- both models will use both primary (AA and CR123) as well as li-ion batteries (14500, rcr123)
- nickel-plated, "hard", piston drive button
- moderately aggressive knurling
- MCU controlled
- D10 is AA sized
- EX10 is CR123 sized
- EX10 will have a st. steel bezel (not shown on the photos)
- D10 3.5 x 0.75 in (8.89 x 1.91 cm)
- EX10 3.0 x 0.85 in (7.62 x 2.16 cm)
People in the know:
- B@rt
- carrot
- tpman
Official pics:
Leaked pics:
Rodent of doom:
*** UPDATED SUMMARY ***
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Customerservice@4sevens
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what's going on in this thread?!
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