TITAN - taken apart

[chimo]

I would hope not, those are trimpots, not suited for intensive use...

Bart, when I look at these pics a second time, it does look like a trimpot, however, these are regular potentiometers with a manufacturer's spec'd life from 500 to 100K cycles. I guess they supply a lot of automotive sensors. More info at: http://www.piher-nacesa.com.

Paul

 

[B@rt]

I stand corrected. I wonder when they start to develope noise though, that's usually a lot sooner... :thinking:

 

[Phredd]

I just got my Titan back after they replaced the bezel. A part fell out, so I have a photo of the innards to add:

I also have an idea on the cause of the grittiness. This head turns a little more easily than it did with the original. I noticed if I pull the two turning parts away from each other, it turns more easily. I push and it's very, very gritty. So, I think the it's the outer ring where the head meets the body. I know it sounds obvious, but I don't think anyone else has suggested that. So, maybe the solution is to take the head off and sand it just a little shorter. Or push and turn for a while to wear away some material.

I also polished mine for a more natural titanium look. I like it much better and now we know that the laser engraving is deep enough to survive polishing.

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/posts/2310787&postcount=66

Phredd

 

[Tempest UK]

Looks good, Phredd Nice job with the polishing.

Regards,
Tempest

 

[Illum]

Any updates as to what the bottom half of the driver board looks like?

 

[454Casull]

Err, teflon is used in non-stick cookware because it has the lowest friction coefficient besides melting ice...

Wrong on all three points, actually.

Teflon is used on cookware because it has extremely low surface energy and is hydrophobic.

NFC (Near-Frictionless Carbon) along with some forms of DLC (Diamond-Like Carbon) and MoS2 (I'm sure I'm forgetting some others) are coatings that can achieve lower coefficients of friction than PTFE (the regular Teflon).

And melting ice... how did you even figure that was one material? And the most slippery, at that?

 

[Phredd]

And melting ice... the most slippery, at that?

I guess I should let him answer, but just think about how ice skates work. Pressure melts the ice and creates a very slippery surface.

But you got him on 2 out of 3... you must be proud.

I see you only have 1 post. Did you create a new account just to respond to his post?

 

[454Casull]

I guess I should let him answer, but just think about how ice skates work. Pressure melts the ice and creates a very slippery surface.

But you got him on 2 out of 3... you must be proud.

I see you only have 1 post. Did you create a new account just to respond to his post?

No, actually. I created this account to use the Search function, but I appreciate the taunt. I like a forum with feisty members. :twothumbs

My third point was not to deny that wet ice was slippery, but that wet ice is a combination of substances, not one substance alone. The water acts as a lubricant of sorts... Want to bet that there isn't a lubricated material that's more slippery than wet ice?

 

[yaesumofo]

I am really looking forward to seeing the insides of the new aluminum version.
My titan has grown on me somewhat. despite the fact that I have a single flicker when I adjust the brightness.
from high to low. it flickers once very close to the top.
Anyway the titan is a cool flashlight. I really appreciate that PSM X-rayed one for all of us to see. The disassembled unit is also very interesting.
It doesn't look like a 500 light on the inside to me and I don't give a hoot either.
The Titan is just cool regardless of what is on the inside.
As for the flicker I plan to wait until SF has settled on the how they are fixing the lights and I hear that they have a way to make them perfect.
(MY fear is that while I just have a little flicker I wouldn't want the light to come back worse than when I sent it) Anyway the titan taken apart even several months later is still cool. Hell Any light taken apart is cool.

The aluminum titan (why not just give it a new name alltogether? the new light is not a TITAN because it is not made from titanium. I would guess that they named the TITAN because of the material it was made from.)
Is sure to be a very popumar flashlight. I am quite amazed that the prices which the orignal titans are selling for. There seems to be quite a demand for them and they aren't even done making them yet (apparently).
Looking forwared to seeing an X-ray of an aluminum unit.
Yaesumofo

 

[DM51]

The aluminum titan (why not just give it a new name alltogether? the new light is not a TITAN because it is not made from titanium. I would guess that they named the TITAN because of the material it was made from.)

They should call it ALAN, lol.

 

[JeffN]

They should call it ALAN, lol.

Or the ALUMIN, which sort of works on more than one level. Like the light.

 

[cave dave]

The original pictures have disappeared. Did anybody save them?
:mecry:

Also I didn't see anybody mention this but under features #2 in the included booklet it says:

"Potentiometer control for selecting any level between 0 and 65 lumens"

 

[Kilovolt]

The original pictures have disappeared. Did anybody save them?
:mecry:

I can still see them, the problem must be at your end. :thinking:

 

[Illum]

CPF threads sometimes fail to load all the pics on the first try, click the refresh button a couple of times and see if that helps

Firefox keeps itself occupied with loading the avatars first...I don't know what the deal is but hey, thats my problem, not yours :thumbsup:

 

[fineday]

Is it broken now?

I had been really dreaming for a quite long time about owning a TITAN while it was just launched.

 

[cy]

Really happy to report... since I've come up with this crude but reliable lanyard attachment point for Titan. works really well for teeth hold duties.

made out of a 12pt 8mm surplus aircraft fastener.

Titan is back on active EDC duties on my neck.
other light pictured below is a Li14430, which was replaced by Titan.

 

[kaichu dento]

Since we know the head can be taken off, has anyone changed emitters in a Titan yet? This is my new favorite light and a warmer tint would make it just short of perfect!

 

[MorpheusT1]

Seems like a good time to bump this thread now that the T1A is out.

Emitter swap anyone.

 

[Chrontius]

Ray, not to wax overly philosophical, but while the optimist in me hopes one day to awaken in a world where everyone does the right thing (and let's not even go down the road of defining 'right' for all contexts), the truth is that some folks will buy only the original product... you know, the 'genuine article'... some will buy another name brand with better perceived value... and still others will jump on the lowest-price bandwagon. I do believe that like fine crafted Swiss watches (Oris comes to mind, there are many others), there will always be a certain market segment that values quality and craftsmanship, and is willing to pay a premium for it. There are others who will ride the crest of technology, keeping outfits like SureFire afloat so long as SureFire continues to innovate, doesn't drop the ball at some point.

As for the disassembly... after seeing the light's innards via photos it's not clear to me where the gritty sensation comes from. Any thoughts? :thinking:

I find cheap chinese knockoffs less offensive than cheap chinese originals... which are really just cheap knockoffs of something that's been out for a few years. Now, I don't mean to single out the Chinese - there's a lot of Asia where this happens, and an appreciable amount elsewhere - or to paint all of China with the same brush (Fenix, Jetbeam, I'm looking at you - keep up the good work!) At least when you knowingly buy a cheap knockoff, you're being honest about what you're getting, and your expectations at some level, but my limited experience with (and study of others) cheap knockoffs and cheap originals doesn't endear me to either. I propose we can-of-worms this subject, and take discussion of this elsewhere.

Back on topic, the Titan uses a SSC P4, right?

Emitter swap should be cake (once you get the silly thing apart).

 

[brighterisbetter]

changed emitters

Emitter swap anyone.

Emitter swap should be cake

I'd be very interested in putting a K2 in that sucker, but wouldn't that completely void Surefire's warranty? I mean, on less expensive lights I have no problem with farming out mods to obtain a light more suited to my preferences. But if something should go wrong on a $400-$500+ light either after or during the modification, can a replacement driver even be acquired to get it back to stock configuration? And delving into this proposition even further, say you can get it back to totally stock; would SF be able to tell whether it's been tampered with (ie. marking or designation instated during manufacturing process only recognizable/replicated by SF themselves)?