Avatar : A Movie Revolution?

Icebreak

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I may have mentioned that when I saw the IMAX 3D previews they looked like a combination of 3 or more technologies pulled together in a close to seemless way. That's what I saw last night when I saw the film at an IMAX 3D. There was nothing I haven't seen before but the blending certainly was effective.

The experience will not be the same from individual to individual. All of our eyes are different and all of our processors are different. The crowd last night seemed to be transfixed on the film. For me it was immersive, which was expected. However, the transformative experience, the feeling I was in the adventure was not expected.

AWESOME.

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Has anyone seen it in one of the new HD movie theaters?
i don't really want to go to an IMAX theater but there is a new HD one not too far away and i have always wanted to see if it is any better then watching movies on my 14' screen at home on my couch.
 

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Yes. The O'Neil Theater in Southeast CT is one of the newer 3D HD Digital theaters. The only IMAX in (Manchester) CT is not a "real IMAX" with the ultra large wrap-around side screen.

I enjoyed the new O'Neill theater more because it had wonderful, spacious, comfortable stadium high back, rocking seats which makes a difference in a 2hr 40min movie.

Don't see it at just a HD theater if you can find a 3D one within a reasonable driving distance.
 

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I saw the 3D version last night. After a half hour, the 3D slipped into the background. A good thing since I feel it shouldn't be the focal point. If it were scene after scene of things flying out at me it would mean that the effect is the star, not the story.

Now the story. YAWN. Seen it many times.

Star Wars: Living force, large mechanical war machines vs a technologically inferior population. And getting their clocks cleaned.
Star Trek: The Katra, the soul/consciousness of the departed deposited in some physic gestalt.
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Corp. A mega powerful corporation that is evil personified. See Robocop, Blade Runner, and many B movies for this easy foil.
There are also elements of Little Big Man and Dances With Wolves.

I guess when you spend all the money on special effects and green screen stuff you have to cut and paste story from wherever.

One question. If we let the earth get to the state that it is such a hell hole, how did this corporation ever get the money to fund such a huge expedition across millions of miles to mine a far off planet? For an element that the writers had no imagination in naming interestingly? Lamer than bad film school writers.

I like Science Fiction and Fantasy work but there must be substantial story there. I like the attempt in the Star Wars series but There is maybe a 4 hour story in all that 12+ hours of cinema. I wasn't a fan of Aliens, spent the time in the theatre calling out the plot minutes before it happened. No surprises there.

Not a movie I plan on buying. Or seeing a second time. YMMV. I should have seen Alvin 2 (the Squeakwel)


First off I agree, but have to say I actually disagree with the repeat story line.

I missed the Star Trek generation by a few years, never liked Star Wars much, didn't watch any of the "deeper" movies with similar storylines.

What I'm trying to get at here is, just because it's something similar to old stuff, doesn't mean it necessarily has to be a repeat for everyone, yeah you have been around longer and seen the old stuff, maybe enjoyed it. At 19 missed some of the old stuff, and really enjoyed Avatar.

I mean, at some point just about everything is a twist on a copy of something old. New ideas come, but not always, sometimes you have to tweak old ideas.

As for the other things, I don't think Earth in the story was a total hell hole, just that society is corrupted, the word is no longer "virgin." Humans as a whole are a pretty bad species.

As for being a smart *** in the theater, I guess that's what separates some people from others, just because you have foresight to the movie, I get the feeling you over think something that is supposed to be enjoyable.

Now I don't actually mean that disrespectfully, I to have a hard time sometimes just sitting back and enjoying something, but sometimes I think that's pretty important to do, rather than analyze everything, take a breather and just pretend.

Rant off.:eek:
 

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Thanks LL,
I was, wowed, saw the 3D at your insistance, just as if it had been a multi P7. Best effects I have seen for a long time. Glad they took the time to make it long enough to play out the plot line.

Much of the imagined technology is down lines I know are in developement. Great research then FX's to make the technology beliveable.

I think I saw a social or political message. I just ignored that, it did unfortunately demonstrate our human nature.
 

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Saw the film the other night on IMAX. Got a pile of complimentary tickets for 'doing some technical favors' and gave them to my family, who in turn dragged me along.

Plot wise the film was to be as expected. Cameron is about as deep as an oil slick and tends to use movie projects to find new girlfriends, so that wasn't a surprise. In his defense, the story was obviously kept in a fashion to make it appealing to a lot of age groups and in particular, foreign audiences. Nuances like this are what hollywood directors tend to lack as of late, and in that respect I give a kudos to the story for being universally appealing, but not *too* dulled down.

Somebody in the audience yelled 'where are the Ewoks?' during the final battle, and I tend to agree.

Ah, Wes Studi was obviously doing the voice over for the Na'vi chief. Geee, that's original (not).

Frankly I found the CGI a bit over-rated, but for different reasons. The Na'vi and motion capture was superbly done, but I was't amazed by the Walt Disney jungle and fauna. Little diversity, and CGI's team use of heavy fog on short distance shots to keep rendering down got a bit worn. Also, every critter in the jungle having the same rubbery skin with no detail was another obvious ploy because rendering time was hurting the film's potential release. I'd like to see this fixed for the Blu-Ray release. Making eyes look authentic is by far the hardest part in making CGI humans and humanoids come off as real, and that's an A+, along with the Na'vi in general. I just wish the rest of the environment was given the same detail resources.

What surprised me was how well live action was handled with 3-D. Even though I found issues with 3-D, especially the loss of brightness and some color caused by the 3-D glasses, I liked the live action scenes in the 3-D universe just as well.

Too bad 'Lord of the Rings' wasn't filmed this way - that I'd pay to see. Or for that matter '300' or Sin City :D
 

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Cameron is about as deep as an oil slick and tends to use movie projects to find new girlfriends, so that wasn't a surprise.

That had to be one of the funniest things written here at CPF in a long while!

Agree it would have been very cool to see those other movies in this technology, but part of why I posted the topic using the word "...Revolution?" is because of what he invented technologically for this movie. I don't think most studios (or the "boys with the bucks") took a 3D effect seriously enough before Avatar to think it would be anything more than another gimmick.

The ticket sales, sustained numbers, and seeing the net effect of his technology displayed on 3D screens has got to be getting all of their attention. I'm sure they have also noticed that there aren't any Avatar 3D torrents out there either. I was frankly shocked at the paucity of 3D capable theaters, and suspect that various chains will be rectifying that pronto.
 

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I order some two color 3d glasses for watching at home. I know it wont be the same, as good...never the less http://cgi.ebay.com/Magenta-Green-3D-GLASSES-1-Pair-Plastic-for-movie-game_W0QQitemZ270510694985QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray?hash=item3efbb1a249

Not sure which glasses will work with what movie...but lately this type has been in favor. I hate the way paper ones feel on my nose.

The theater used not red/blue but polaroid divertification. Is the home version a color split 3d?

The two are not interchangeable.
 

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LuxLuthor, with a Billion in 17 days it can't be ignored. They are getting a lot of repeat viewers. Money talks so it could, indeed be a Revolution before our eyes. Kudo's to you for calling the ball at such a great distance.

I really want to see it again. I know there were a couple times when I was looking at one part of the screen and missing things going on in other parts of the screen. Ideally, I would like to own my own IMAX...with a VTOL on top...and Na'vi babes as ushers.
 

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Discovery channel planning 3d programs...and some sports channels too. Got the movie "My bloody valentine"...paper glasses suck. Colors look off...but the 3d effect is right there...just needs a little improvement.

Bet Best Buy starts selling 2 color 3d glasses...maybe some good ones.
 
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