CPF will eventually linger on as an example of how BBS were killed off by over modera

[FRITZHID]

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Endless posts deleted for not much more than him not liking the post, or it rubbed him the wrong way.
.. not only mine, but other members in which I was thoroughly pissed off to see their posts disappear

I really don't care if Empath doesn't like me, a post or whatever is bugging him in general,, he wildly over-steppes his authority (maybe it's control thing/power or lack of??

Trust me when I say there are other people here who think the same

Agreed.

 

[more_vampires]

Endless posts deleted for not much more than him not liking the post, or it rubbed him the wrong way.
.. not only mine, but other members in which I was thoroughly pissed off to see their posts disappear

Question sir, how do you know it was Empath when the posts/threads were simply gone? I've seen some interesting threads vanish before, one example in mind was about custom making incan bulbs. I noticed because I was subscribed and really wanted to read more discussion on crazy people trying to make incan bulbs.

Kind of hard to give a link to the thread when it isn't there anymore. :shrug:

 

[LGT]

... or someone just being a bit trollish. If they're going to make an accusation, they need to stand by it and provide proof to back it up. Otherwise it's nothing but trolling... and that *IS* a ban-able offense.

Still waiting for those names... :candle: ... not holding my breath... :ironic:

I was thinking of you when I made that post. A few months ago I started a thread about not watching the nightly news because I feel they have an agenda with what they report, anybody else not listening to big brother.
You had the first response to the extent of being tired of uninformed people with their head in the sand. The problem is too much ignorance, not big brother. I felt this comment was directly aimed towards me, and stated so in another post. Your reply to that post was along the line of "did I say YOU anywhere in my post. Paranoia much." I felt like that's just a little too much of a taunting response to come from an Administrator.Just my opinion.

 

[Greta]

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Endless posts deleted for not much more than him not liking the post, or it rubbed him the wrong way.
.. not only mine, but other members in which I was thoroughly pissed off to see their posts disappear

I really don't care if Empath doesn't like me, a post or whatever is bugging him in general,, he wildly over-steppes his authority (maybe it's control thing/power or lack of??

Trust me when I say there are other people here who think the same

Would you mind providing links to examples of this? I am able to see posts that have been deleted so I would like to check this out if you wouldn't mind? Thank you...

 

[Greta]

I was thinking of you when I made that post. A few months ago I started a thread about not watching the nightly news because I feel they have an agenda with what they report, anybody else not listening to big brother.
You had the first response to the extent of being tired of uninformed people with their head in the sand. The problem is too much ignorance, not big brother. I felt this comment was directly aimed towards me, and stated so in another post. Your reply to that post was along the line of "did I say YOU anywhere in my post. Paranoia much." I felt like that's just a little too much of a taunting response to come from an Administrator.Just my opinion.

AH! I remember that! And here it is:

About three years ago I just plain stopped watching the local and national news broadcasts. Way too much negativity, which can affect your state of mind and perception on how the world really is. I've also stopped reading newspapers for the same reason. The spin they put out reflects their political ideology, and they want you to think the same way. Anybody else fed up with what big brother is telling you?

You asked a question - "Anybody else fed up with what big brother is telling you?" To which I replied:

In truth, I'm kinda fed up with people who are uninformed. Too many people with their head in the sand. I don't mind if people have opinions or their own "spin" as long as it's informed. The problem is too much ignorance not "big brother".

To which YOU replied:

How is it that you come to the conclusion that I'm "uninformed?"
There are "unbiased" news outlets to get information about what's going on in the world. I just don't think the nightly news or local newspapers will give you that.

YOU accused ME of calling you uniformed. I did not. Your accusation smacked of paranoia and was totally false. I do not let things like that stand when they are aimed at me. So indeed I did post the following in response:

Where did I say *YOU* are uninformed? Paranoia much?

And I stand by it. I accused you of nothing. YOU accused ME of saying something I did not in any way, shape or form.

 

[WarRaven]

I'm telling you man,... that mouse was this big!!!!!

 

[etc]

someone posted a link to a manufacturer's site or such, it got zapped, I posted (respectfully) that the original post was in the best interest of the community - I would like to learn more about things, not be restricted, and got banned by the Moderator for a week or so.

That was about 4 years ago.

I thought that was vindictive and completely uncalled for, given I have been been here for a decade. I quit actively contributing anything substantial since then. I didn't think a public announcement was necessary, I just quietly went into the lurk mode, if that. Maybe I will reassess it at some point.

Over moderation is not a morale boost.

 

[more_vampires]

etc, you describe the difference between Lassiez-faire and Spanish Inquisition as moderation styles. There's all kinds out there.

 

[Greta]

someone posted a link to a manufacturer's site or such, it got zapped, I posted (respectfully) that the original post was in the best interest of the community - I would like to learn more about things, not be restricted, and got banned by the Moderator for a week or so.

That was about 4 years ago.

I thought that was vindictive and completely uncalled for, given I have been been here for a decade. I quit actively contributing anything substantial since then. I didn't think a public announcement was necessary, I just quietly went into the lurk mode, if that. Maybe I will reassess it at some point.

Over moderation is not a morale boost.

(Emphasis mine.) So something that happened to you 4 years ago is determining your opinion today?

 

[scs]

AH! I remember that! And here it is:



You asked a question - "Anybody else fed up with what big brother is telling you?" To which I replied:



To which YOU replied:



YOU accused ME of calling you uniformed. I did not. Your accusation smacked of paranoia and was totally false. I do not let things like that stand when they are aimed at me. So indeed I did post the following in response:



And I stand by it. I accused you of nothing. YOU accused ME of saying something I did not in any way, shape or form.

Does it suffice to say that LGT inferred what Greta didn't imply?
When my statements can be and are misinterpreted and someone feels wronged or is offended, I politely clarify what I actually mean. If the problem is not with my statement, but the person is just too sensitive, then it's a big fu, I don't have to explain myself, unless you're a friend of course.

 

[scs]

Having said that I would have interpreted greta's response the same way LGT did.

 

[etc]

(Emphasis mine.) So something that happened to you 4 years ago is determining your opinion today?

Greta,
No, it doesn't. Logic suggests that if it did, I would not be writing this.

 

[Greta]

Greta,
No, it doesn't. Logic suggests that if it did, I would not be writing this.

That's pretty much what I thought - thank you...

But this is a perfect example of where someone says something that can, and often *IS*, interpreted as something recent or even on-going. And in truth, it happened years ago. I see often on other forums (and here too) complaints of CPF "always being down". And then others jump on and agree, etc. Years ago? Yup! But now? Nope. I see people complaining about Norm's moderating and how heavy-handed he is, etc. etc. Norm passed away back in April... yet some still complain. :shakehead

I think many of those who have been around for more than a few years can agree that a lot has changed on CPF - hell, *I* have changed! Why? I dunno. Priorities have changed with age? Who knows. But the CPF of today is not the CPF of years ago. Many complaints of years ago do not exist today. I think it is more productive for all of us (CPF as a whole) to look at where we are today and how far we've come rather than reference how things were YEARS ago.

 

[more_vampires]

I see people complaining about Norm's moderating and how heavy-handed he is, etc. etc. Norm passed away back in April... yet some still complain. :shakehead

Missed that one until now.

 

[Chauncey Gardiner]

Who among us hasn't said or done something egregious to a family member, friend or total stranger?

I know I have. Denying it, I should be considered a fool at best, or more appropriately, a damn liar!

What's the point? We all make mistakes.

During my five years of membership I've had occasional interaction with the Moderators and Administrators. Some of it was called for, some of it was not. At times it seemed I was being singled-out for much more attention than I thought fair or necessary. At other times the person/s responsible for the aforementioned attention went out of their way to explain their action and/or accommodate a request I'd made.

What's the point? Moderators and Administrators are human. They sometimes make mistakes. If you think that's happened it's best to PM your thoughts in a respectful manner. If the situation isn't resolved to your satisfaction, best to forgive, forget and move on. :grouphug:

~ Chance

 

[Chauncey Gardiner]

...Norm passed away back in April...

Sad news indeed.

~ Chance

 

[WarRaven]

I'm going to focus on the now as Greta suggests.

This place and members is great these days, friendly and knowledgeable funny people here.
It's not like it was back a while ago, not by a long shot.

So enjoy the now. 👍

 

[more_vampires]

I'm going to focus on the now as Greta suggests.

This place and members is great these days, friendly and knowledgeable funny people here.
It's not like it was back a while ago, not by a long shot.

So enjoy the now. 

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...-statistic-And-why-you-should-enjoy-every-day!

Every day, no days off.

 

[WarRaven]

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...-statistic-And-why-you-should-enjoy-every-day!

I can't read that, sorry bro.
I know the gist and believe it too.

 

[etc]

That's pretty much what I thought - thank you...

But this is a perfect example of where someone says something that can, and often *IS*, interpreted as something recent or even on-going. And in truth, it happened years ago. I see often on other forums (and here too) complaints of CPF "always being down". And then others jump on and agree, etc. Years ago? Yup! But now? Nope. I see people complaining about Norm's moderating and how heavy-handed he is, etc. etc. Norm passed away back in April... yet some still complain. :shakehead

I think many of those who have been around for more than a few years can agree that a lot has changed on CPF - hell, *I* have changed! Why? I dunno. Priorities have changed with age? Who knows. But the CPF of today is not the CPF of years ago. Many complaints of years ago do not exist today. I think it is more productive for all of us (CPF as a whole) to look at where we are today and how far we've come rather than reference how things were YEARS ago.

Greta,

You are right. I hear you loud and clear -- thank you for the message.