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Monocrom

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This is a test rig. ABS could just fail :)


Car brands simply dress up the outside, maybe new engines and trannys. Improvements to things like established ABS systems. Doubtful they'd use a brand new system from the ground up.
 

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I'm looking into getting one of these, Y/N?

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It's not ideal, but it's competitive for the segment; micro-utes are all specifically designed for space and MPG, no performance to speak of in the genre. Lexus-quiet though..

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Have to agree,, you don't need big performance for a daily driver. It takes little hp to carry a car @75 if not towing ect..
My '17 Santa Fe Sport gets almost 28mpg combined in a medium sized vehicle.. I'm good w/ that

I also use the SHIFTRONIC manual often for building revvs (it won't upshift automatically until like 6000ish rpm but does downshift if I forget, which helps at times.)

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Also:: the Z28 vid,, not all cars have ABS, especially race or track specific
pure mechanical feel & feedback to brake pedal w/o computer vageness is key.
 

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Have to agree,, you don't need big performance for a daily driver. It takes little hp to carry a car @75 if not towing...
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Also:: the Z28 vid,, not all cars have ABS, especially race or track specific
pure mechanical feel & feedback to brake pedal w/o computer vageness is key.

Have to respectfully disagree on both counts. Having power on tap isn't just about showing off. I've been able to avoid accidents by both accelerating past them, as well as using my sweet ride's sharp reflexes to avoid them.

Also, when you sell high-performance machines to professional drivers who'll take them only onto the track, that's one thing. You sell the very same machine to amateurs of the general public who'll use them pretty much exclusively on public streets, it's just moronic not to include ABS on those cars in this day & age. It could even be argued that it's a form of negligence on the part of the car company itself.
 

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Have to respectfully disagree on both counts. Having power on tap isn't just about showing off. I've been able to avoid accidents by both accelerating past them, as well as using my sweet ride's sharp reflexes to avoid them.

Also, when you sell high-performance machines to professional drivers who'll take them only onto the track, that's one thing. You sell the very same machine to amateurs of the general public who'll use them pretty much exclusively on public streets, it's just moronic not to include ABS on those cars in this day & age. It could even be argued that it's a form of negligence on the part of the car company itself.

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We need pics of your sweet ride!!!1

I hear you on power (DMV may not),, having a reasonable amount of power is the point.
One could argue some cars for sale to the public are simply too fast. Once company A is allowed to sell superfast cars, other companies jump on immediately because the precedent of performance is set.
Any joeshmo can throw down a pile of cash and walk out with a car he/she has no business, nor skill, driving.

Should there be a Advanced Drivers License required for cars driven of a certain performance level??

They're cars sold to the public that need to be detuned to race in certain classes/series, detuned>
With ABS, that could be a big debate about 'driver assisted features'
...personally, I do like cruse control and having ABS* for winter but that is it.

*anyone can make ABS systems lockup on snow
 
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Is this the Encore?
We had one as a rental car last holiday. It was "okay", but the windscreen seemed really narrow, so poor front visibility IMO.
Check out the Subaru Crosstrek or the new Honda HRV.

I think that was just an element of the car's size that the engineers couldn't hide; the Encore isn't as wide as a Volkswagen Golf. I'm avoiding AWD so Subarus are out, and I'd prefer the Honda's CVT tranny for puttering about town, but it's more money for less luxury otherwise.
 

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I think that was just an element of the car's size that the engineers couldn't hide; the Encore isn't as wide as a Volkswagen Golf. I'm avoiding AWD so Subarus are out, and I'd prefer the Honda's CVT tranny for puttering about town, but it's more money for less luxury otherwise.

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1.8L turbo Sportwagon maybe
VW is hungry for sales, so good deals are a real possibility

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I think that was just an element of the car's size that the engineers couldn't hide; the Encore isn't as wide as a Volkswagen Golf. I'm avoiding AWD so Subarus are out, and I'd prefer the Honda's CVT tranny for puttering about town, but it's more money for less luxury otherwise.

Rav4 Hybrid?
 

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1.8L turbo Sportwagon maybe

I dig the Tiguan; I like that VW offers a light-colored interior, but they only give you a moonroof on their most expensive trims.

I'm not doing the car/sedan format in any family daily driving capacity, even the most faux SUV designs just make so much more sense with step-in/hip height, use of space, etc. The "small" CR-V I currently have is much easier to maneuver and park than the "medium" Ford Fusion I had before, with significantly more interior space; big on the inside, small on the outside, that's one of my favorite features. And the Fusion was always nosing out/bottoming out when pulling out of a steep drive - the other day I was pulling into one of the local drug stores and I went over a speed bump right at the entrance, I didn't recall ever seeing a speed bump at a road entry, and rightly so, since it was in fact a narrow curb island nestled perfectly along the side of the entrance that there was no way for me to see. Most cars in that situation would have lost some front air dam, some rain shield, maybe damaged the muffler, but the CR-V just casually rolled over it and carried on. That's a convenient feature.

Rav4 Hybrid?

Love the RAV4 but Toyota knows how much it's worth; the Encore actually has the classic Toyota over-amped power steering, which is nice. I'd go for a used mid-2000's model with the V6, big horsepower and straight-line performance from those..
 
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