Emisar D4vn - Smallest 18650 Quad Thrower

[noboneshotdog]

OR clip... what is OR?

Oveready. It's a high end custom brand.

If you are looking for a cheapy, I put a Solarforce clip on mine and added a 22mm spacer in the tailcap to keep contact with the tube. I will post a picture.

 

[noboneshotdog]

Please note, I did have to dremel out the inside diameter of the clip just a tiny bit to fit over the threads.

The black tape is Talon Grips for better gripping of the light.

 

[hhmoore]

I wouldn't have thought to abbreviate Oveready that way.
Thanks

 

[ven]

I wouldn't have thought to abbreviate Oveready that way.
Thanks

Yes, sorry for not being clearer
http://www.oveready.com/clip-store/universal-tialn-spring-stainless-steel-clip/prod_454.html

Would need a little use of a dremel on the inside

 

[blah9]

Please note, I did have to dremel out the inside diameter of the clip just a tiny bit to fit over the threads.

The black tape is Talon Grips for better gripping of the light.

Looks great!

 

[noboneshotdog]

Looks great!

Thanks. That clip was less than $5 too. And a pack of 20 spacers was less than $5 too. :thumbsup:

The clip is plenty sturdy and clips right onto pants pocket very smoothly.

 

[scout24]

Got mine today. Dremel worked great on an old HDS clip, and I sanded the tailcap down some to make contact rather than try to find the proper washer to take up the space inside the tailcap. I haven't played outside yet, however...

 

[blah9]

Cool, that's another good idea about just making the tailcap shorter that way. Since it's getting colder outside and I've been wearing jackets I haven't felt the need to put a clip on mine yet but I'm sure that will happen eventually.

 

[jfhrtn]

I'm going to pull the trigger on one of these to put under the tree for Christmas and I got a couple questions if anyone can help out. I am looking for it to have a bit more of a wall light than a concentrated hotspot for throwing. Would like to have it as near neutral tint as i can get. I have really grown to like the tint on my Thrunite Ti3 which was listed as neutral.

From what I have been reading in this thread the 219c Nichia is the best for more of a wall of light?

Also the Nichia 219c is pretty much neutral at 5000k right?

What do y'all think would be the best option for a neutral tint that provides more of a wall of light?

 

[scout24]

I own a xp-g2 PDT and an xpl-HI 4000k. The xpl tint is beautiful, and more wall of light than the xp-g2. The 219C supposesly gets hot the fastest, but if you're buyingnone of these, I'm sure you know of the limits on high level use.

 

[jfhrtn]

My D1vn gets toasty at it's max level too. Not over cray hot. I've read the Nichia gets extremely hot though and that you really do have have to watch it when used at it's brightest level. Is the 4000k on your light like incandescent warm or a bit whiter than an incandescent light?

 

[scout24]

My 4000k is almost identical to the first run BOSS patina lights. And a touch rosier than my 219c BOSS. Less yellow in the beam than even a well drven incan. Hard to quantify given the big differences in beam patterns, though. The 4000k is pretty...

 

[archimedes]

I have a few different 4000K XP-L lights and they really hit the tint jackpot for me ...

 

[jfhrtn]

Just placed an order for the D4vn with quad XPL HI 4000K led's. I've been using lights with cool white tints around 6500k for so long I'm looking forward to adding a 4000k to the family. I think it will be easier on my eyes especially at night in the house or when my eyes are tired from a long day. I think it will make for a good present under the tree to test out on Christmas night while walking the dog and cleaning up from Christmas morning haha

 

[mightysparrow]

I'm interested in the throwy aspect of the G2 PDT version, and I'd love to get my first Vinh-modded light. However, I'm unclear about the tint of the LED used in the PDT version. I like very neutral tint - not too yellow. The approx. 4500k Zebralight "w" version tints are good for me. Will the tint of the PDT satisfy me? Should I order a D4 with a 5000k emitter instead?

Thanks for the help!

 

[ven]

Just placed an order for the D4vn with quad XPL HI 4000K led's. I've been using lights with cool white tints around 6500k for so long I'm looking forward to adding a 4000k to the family. I think it will be easier on my eyes especially at night in the house or when my eyes are tired from a long day. I think it will make for a good present under the tree to test out on Christmas night while walking the dog and cleaning up from Christmas morning haha

Congrats, you will certainly love it. Little tip, sometimes using 6500k with 4000k or comparing can effect how you see the colour temp/tint. Its best if you get use to the 4000k on its own, then you will appreciate it more(imo, just the way i am, everyone is different). I love 4000k in the evening /night time, as my eyes are more use to a warmer temp(typical indoor house lights, maybe 2700-3500k ish)

 

[ven]

I'm interested in the throwy aspect of the G2 PDT version, and I'd love to get my first Vinh-modded light. However, I'm unclear about the tint of the LED used in the PDT version. I like very neutral tint - not too yellow. The approx. 4500k Zebralight "w" version tints are good for me. Will the tint of the PDT satisfy me? Should I order a D4 with a 5000k emitter instead?

Thanks for the help!

Its a tough one to call, for me anyway. I would put it around 5000-5200k , but again its tough! Against white walls(not recommended as serves no purpose other than to find blemishes that are lost outdoors). Outside, greens etc, be it wooded areas or garden, the PDT really does shine imo..............colours look good. Used in artificial cool light, the tint can look a little green(common by product of de-dome xp-g2), so for outdoor use , its at its best. The beam is quite a bit tighter, the broad flood is compacted into a tighter beam compared to the standard D4 pattern. Its still a usable beam close up though..........

Hard to say if you would be happy, i am not a total tint snob but do appreciate a nice "tint". So a fan here of 219b and 219c, like a little rosy or warm, also like a pure white(or clean white) of the 219c 5000k. Nichia 219c 5000k is hard to beat, if you want a little warmth the xpl HI 4000k is fantastic. Just adds that little bit of warmth to pump up colours slightly without looking too artificial. The xp-g2 4000k is also nice!

Maybe your closest is the xpl HI 4k, other side would be the xpl HI 5000k..............The 219c 5000k has the highest CRI if that is an important factor. Trouble is they are all good/nice in their own way, thats why people tend to get more than one. For me, cool 5000k in day(work), 4k in the evening. I can use either way round, 4k all day and night, 5k all day and night. Just my preferences are 5k day, 4k night.

Really subjective...........

 

[jfhrtn]

@ven I appreciate the info and the you on using them separately. I will likely use the D1vn when I need a torch with a good bit of throw exclusively now. Then use the D4vn for every day tasks and up close tasks. Probably won't see much time on high/turbo unless I get the itch to see that wow factor haha. It's going to be nice to have a light that won't way out colors in up close tasks. Great info on the selection of tints you just posted up. Might end up with a Nichia torch in the future likely another quad with different led's. Been wanting to try them out eventually. A aaa light with Nichia would be a good starting point I feel

 

[mightysparrow]

Its a tough one to call, for me anyway. I would put it around 5000-5200k , but again its tough! Against white walls(not recommended as serves no purpose other than to find blemishes that are lost outdoors). Outside, greens etc, be it wooded areas or garden, the PDT really does shine imo..............colours look good. Used in artificial cool light, the tint can look a little green(common by product of de-dome xp-g2), so for outdoor use , its at its best. The beam is quite a bit tighter, the broad flood is compacted into a tighter beam compared to the standard D4 pattern. Its still a usable beam close up though..........

Hard to say if you would be happy, i am not a total tint snob but do appreciate a nice "tint". So a fan here of 219b and 219c, like a little rosy or warm, also like a pure white(or clean white) of the 219c 5000k. Nichia 219c 5000k is hard to beat, if you want a little warmth the xpl HI 4000k is fantastic. Just adds that little bit of warmth to pump up colours slightly without looking too artificial. The xp-g2 4000k is also nice!

Maybe your closest is the xpl HI 4k, other side would be the xpl HI 5000k..............The 219c 5000k has the highest CRI if that is an important factor. Trouble is they are all good/nice in their own way, thats why people tend to get more than one. For me, cool 5000k in day(work), 4k in the evening. I can use either way round, 4k all day and night, 5k all day and night. Just my preferences are 5k day, 4k night.

Really subjective...........

Thanks for your comments, ven! By "pure white" do you mean neutral in temperature?

I wish Vinh offered a XPL-HI in a 5000k color temperature, as I'd probably go for that if it was offered on his site. But the site says the XPL-HI offered is about 4000k. However, Vinh's site says the 219c is supposed to be around 5000k, so maybe that is the way to go for a true neutral color that looks as good indoors as outdoors - except that I'm a bit worried about people posting here that the 219 heats up faster than the other LED choices. And the throw of the XP-G2 PDT is amazing - but maybe the throw of the 219c version would be plenty good for me.

The 219c might also be better for me than for many others because I don't intend to use the highest output levels normally. I would keep the output on levels that would not heat up the LED as much as the highest levels. I have a difficult decision to make....

Thanks for your response to my questions.

 

[ven]

The 219c gets pretty toasty in 15s or so, not sure on the xpl HI but would hazard a guess your still in seconds not a minute. So for me, i go off colour temp/tint over sheer output, as with any of the choices................its for a short blast anyway. Yes, the 219c 5000k is a white(not really a tint to it), colours look accurate and not exaggerated like a warmer temp can do. For me, i see 4k as a warmer side of neutral, 5k for the cooler side of neutral. If you want clean and accurate colours, 219c 5k, if you want to add a little warmth to it, the xpl HI 4k. Honestly i think you would be happy with either, but going off your preferences the 5k may be suited to you the most. The HI 4k does give a slight rosey or warmth to the beam, the 219c keeps it clean and a white if makes sense. Of course our eyes no doubt will see things slightly different, 5000k is sure a safe option if your not sure.