New Fireflylite Flashlights arrived! They are absolutely amazing!

SKV89

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I own between 500 to 700 flashlights and I have to say these new FF lights are some of the best I've seen. Fireflies have always been my favorite flashlight maker because they are willing to try new features craved by the hardcore flashlight geeks and push boundaries unlike the typical manufacturer. Their new lights uses some of the most efficient if not the most efficient driver on the market. The tint on FF's own LEDs are also fantastic and measure negative DUV (rosy)! The flashlights are unbelievably beautiful!

Measurements taken using the Texas Ace Lumen Sphere calibrated with Maukka lights and Sekonic C-800-U Spectrometer:

FF T1R CULNM1 2024 versionTurbo
759 lumens​
8262K​
-0.0096 DUV​
74.6 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00​
11.4 R9​
46.6 R12​
66 Rf​
97 Rg​
included 22430 battery
FF T1R CULNM1 2024 versionM3
412 lumens​
6654K​
-0.0032 DUV​
70.3 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00​
-14.4 R9​
41.5 R12​
64 Rf​
96 Rg​
included 22430 battery
FF T1R CULNM1 2024 versionM2
130 lumens​
6053K​
0.0025 DUV​
69.6 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00​
-27.6 R9​
38.0 R12​
66 Rf​
95 Rg​
included 22430 battery
FF T1R CULNM1 2024 versionM1
15 lumens​
5681K​
0.0069 DUV​
69.8 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00​
-34.6 R9​
34.5 R12​
68 Rf​
93 Rg​
included 22430 battery
FF T1R FFL505A 2024 versionTurbo
871 lumens​
3825K​
-0.0027 DUV​
94.0 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.82​
76.0 R9​
86.2 R12​
91 Rf​
103 Rg​
included 22430 battery
FF T1R FFL505A 2024 versionM3
430 lumens​
3784K​
-0.0014 DUV​
95.1 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.81​
82.2 R9​
85.4 R12​
92 Rf​
103 Rg​
included 22430 battery
FF T1R FFL505A 2024 versionM2
124 lumens​
3584K​
-0.0044 DUV​
96.9 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.79​
94.5 R9​
87.6 R12​
93 Rf​
104 Rg​
included 22430 battery
FF T1R FFL505A 2024 versionM1
12 lumens​
3400K​
-0.0084 DUV​
95.6 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.80​
95.4 R9​
86.6 R12​
93 Rf​
105 Rg​
included 22430 battery
FF X1S Pharos with XHP50.3 HI 4000k 90CRITurbo
2,457 lumens​
4478K​
-0.0013 DUV​
89.7 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00​
63.4 R9​
72.6 R12​
87 Rf​
101 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF X1S Pharos with XHP50.3 HI 4000k 90CRITop of Ramp
2,000 lumens​
4497K​
-0.0017 DUV​
90.5 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00​
67.8 R9​
72.1 R12​
88 Rf​
102 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF X1S Pharos with XHP50.3 HI 4000k 90CRIRandom level
1,005 lumens​
4404K​
-0.0011 DUV​
91.9 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00​
73.3 R9​
71.2 R12​
89 Rf​
101 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF X1S Pharos with XHP50.3 HI 4000k 90CRIRandom level
408 lumens​
4189K​
0.0007 DUV​
93.2 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00​
76.1 R9​
70.6 R12​
90 Rf​
100 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF X1S Pharos with XHP50.3 HI 4000k 90CRIRandom level
112 lumens​
3970K​
0.0013 DUV​
94.1 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 1.00​
78.4 R9​
70.8 R12​
91 Rf​
100 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF X1S Pharos with XHP50.3 HI 4000k 90CRIRandom level
11 lumens​
3844K​
0.0026 DUV​
94.2 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.96​
78.0 R9​
70.1 R12​
90 Rf​
99 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF NOVMU v2 with 2700k mixed with 5000k E21ATurbo
4,241 lumens​
3796K​
-0.0134 DUV​
92.9 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.99​
75.7 R9​
83.8 R12​
92 Rf​
106 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF NOVMU v2 with 2700k mixed with 5000k E21ATop of Ramp
1,437 lumens​
3739K​
-0.0098 DUV​
93.3 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.93​
73.0 R9​
83.1 R12​
93 Rf​
105 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF NOVMU v2 with 2700k mixed with 5000k E21ARandom level
654 lumens​
3720K​
-0.0087 DUV​
93.4 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.93​
72.5 R9​
82.2 R12​
93 Rf​
104 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF NOVMU v2 with 2700k mixed with 5000k E21ARandom level
234 lumens​
3707K​
-0.0083 DUV​
93.5 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.93​
70.9 R9​
81.2 R12​
92 Rf​
104 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF NOVMU v2 with 2700k mixed with 5000k E21ARandom level
4 lumens​
3400K​
-0.0054 DUV​
94.3 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.72​
78.3 R9​
82.3 R12​
93 Rf​
103 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF E07x Canon with FFL351ATurbo
4,310 lumens​
3777K​
-0.0042 DUV​
94.9 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.86​
82.4 R9​
87.8 R12​
91 Rf​
104 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF E07x Canon with FFL351ATop of Ramp
1,472 lumens​
3631K​
-0.0056 DUV​
96.2 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.83​
91.4 R9​
89.1 R12​
93 Rf​
105 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF E07x Canon with FFL351ARandom level
674 lumens​
3624K​
-0.0067 DUV​
96.3 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.86​
95.5 R9​
88.5 R12​
92 Rf​
105 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF E07x Canon with FFL351ARandom level
242 lumens​
3531K​
-0.0081 DUV​
96.0 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.85​
97.5 R9​
88.4 R12​
92 Rf​
105 Rg​
Molicel P45B
FF E07x Canon with FFL351ARandom level
5 lumens​
3404K​
-0.0098 DUV​
95.3 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.82​
96.3 R9​
88.4 R12​
92 Rf​
106 Rg​
Molicel P45B
E12R with 519A 2700k DDTurbo
4,259 lumens​
2204K​
-0.0055 DUV​
95.2 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.20​
87.9 R9​
86.8 R12​
85 Rf​
110 Rg​
Molicel P45B
E12R with 519A 2700k DDTop of Ramp
1,236 lumens​
2154K​
-0.0050 DUV​
94.7 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.19​
96.0 R9​
83.7 R12​
87 Rf​
110 Rg​
Molicel P45B
E12R with 519A 2700k DDRandom level
426 lumens​
2122K​
-0.0049 DUV​
94.4 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.18​
97.5 R9​
82.1 R12​
87 Rf​
110 Rg​
Molicel P45B
E12R with 519A 2700k DDRandom level
98 lumens​
2113K​
-0.0047 DUV​
94.4 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.17​
97.7 R9​
82.0 R12​
87 Rf​
110 Rg​
Molicel P45B
E12R with 519A 2700k DDRandom level
7 lumens​
2091K​
-0.0046 DUV​
94.3 CRI​
Blue light relative amplitude 0.17​
97.2 R9​
82.0 R12​
87 Rf​
110 Rg​
Molicel P45B
 

jon_slider

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Their new lights uses some of the most efficient if not the most efficient driver on the market.
thanks for all the data

do you also own an OPPLE, and if so, can you share Flicker Index and Raw Data screens, at about 50 lumens?

Im trying to see if the drivers use PWM, and at what frequency

like this:
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you might also be interested in contributing some of your data to this thread
 
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SKV89

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I don't have an Opple. I measured using the Sekonic C-800-U. But I recall the LUME drivers that FF uses don't use PWM
 

jabe1

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On the web site, one on sale item is listed as "Matt black" in color. Hmmm.
Another says the led is 65000k neutral.
Small errors, but details matter.
They look like most Chinese sourced lights.
Nothing particularly special.
 

CarpentryHero

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I have a couple on the way, for the price it's a great way to check if you like a tint, emitter or flashlight style without breaking the bank.
From what I've gathered from reading they are similar in quality to emisar but they haven't been around as long.

I've been really enjoying 2700k colour temp and they have Nichia 519 available in that colour temp so I'm excited to try them out
 

SKV89

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Seems like any other Chinese LED light. What is so special?
What is so special? It has one of the most efficient if not most efficient flashlight drivers in existence. They are either buck or boost drivers designed by Loneocean. Some of these LUME drivers reach about 98% efficiency iirc at the peak efficiency range, basically would be categorized as 80+ Titanium if they were power suplies. Zebralights in comparison I've seen ranges from 80% to low 90% max efficiency. These LUME drivers are probably even more efficient than Olight drivers which are some of the best on the market in terms of efficiency. I'm not sure about you guys but I use my flashlights as a tool and not just as shelf queens or for party tricks to impress people for 10 seconds on turbo so I care a heck of a lot about the driver and the ability to sustain a high stable output. On top of that, these new batch of FF lights are super compact and unbelievably powerful for the size. Build quality is very high, photos does it no justice. It has the world's first magnetic USB-C cover that is so much more convenient than the typical rubber. Most of their emitters are HI CRI and FF tries their best to source LED bins that have below the BBL tint (negative DUV). They even produce their own FF emitters that are high CRI and very rosy. Everyone who seen them in person love the tint on these emitters. I use FF flashlights plugged into USB-C every night as room lighting because the light quality is simply unmatched. I'm sure there are other things I forgot to mention but yeah these are some of the best flashlights money can buy.
 

jon_slider

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really appreciate all your data, Im thinking of ordering my first light with FFL351a, the upcoming Emisar D3AA

based on the specs, it may displace my current favorite warm LED, the DD 4500K 519a

thanks for sharing your appreciation of Fireflylites.. they seem to have a very rich feature set
 

SKV89

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really appreciate all your data, Im thinking of ordering my first light with FFL351a, the upcoming Emisar D3AA

based on the specs, it may displace my current favorite warm LED, the DD 4500K 519a

thanks for sharing your appreciation of Fireflylites.. they seem to have a very rich feature set
The FFL351A is not as warm as the DD 519A 4500k. I have the DD 4500k and I like that one too but I think the two are different enough that it's hard to compare. Another thing I didn't mention is the new FF drivers have no PWM, which is something sought after by many flashlight enthusiasts
 

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The FFL351A is not as warm as the DD 519A 4500k.
thanks for the insight.. Im curious to try the 351A, I might like the tint DUV better than 519a DD
the new FF drivers have no PWM
glad to know that
I also like that my Emisar D2, and the new D3AA, have NoPWM

I like small, and lightweight lights
(less than 1/4 pound w batt)
 

jon_slider

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How Rosey
you can get some idea by looking at the Lumens and Tint DUV numbers that SKV89 posted:
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for reference, the original sw45k D180 had Tint DUV below -0.0090, the newer D220 version has Tint DUV above -0.0050

notice that in the case of the 351a, the Tint DUV gets less pink as output goes up..

Im very interested in the 351a and ordered some last week. I will post some pics when they arrive and I install some into an SC21 Pro. If it looks good to me, I plan to order the new Emisar D3AA from Jackson, as he includes an option to choose 351a.

a few more D3AA w 351a thoughts here
 
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