MrGman
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This is the growing collection of Lumens readings I have taken in a real integration 6 inch sphere system over the last 3 years. More to be added.
Orange readings are Incandescents, (forgive me). Truth is Truth.
Make/Model Torch___________Real IS Lumens_______Batteries____________Notes_____________,
Browning Black Ice 9V________165,__________________3 primaries__________incan--No bezel or glass,
with Magstar Xenon lamp,_____125,__________________3 primaries__________incan--with bezel and glass,
SureFire 6PLED_______________82,__________________2 primaries__________original LED________,
SureFire E2DL on high,________210__turn on___________2 primaries__________Brand new as is from Factory!
SureFire E2DL on high,________203__warm.____________2 primaries__________let it run over a minute,
SureFire E2DL on high,________181__warm.____________2 primaries__________w/SF F04 Diffuser, on > 60sec,
SureFire E2DL on low,___________8.1_________________2 primaries______________________________,
SureFire M600C Scout,________171__turn on___________2 primaries__________KX2C head; single mode version of the E2DL,
SureFire M600C Scout,________165__warm.____________2 primaries__________60 second warm up time.
SureFire M600C Scout,________148__warm.____________2 primaries__________w/SF F04 Diffuser, on > 60sec
SureFire KX2C on E2DL_______192__turn on.___________2 primaries__________Different KX2C head on my E2DL body.
SureFire KX2C on E2DL_______185__warm_____________2 primaries__________Different KX2C head on my E2DL body.
Solarforce R2-S______________202___________________3 RCRs,_____________Browning Black Ice 3 cell host.
Solarforce R2-5M low,__________37___________________2 primaries___________Surefire 6P host_________,
Solarforce R2-5M Med,_________85___________________2 primaries___________Surefire 6P host___________,
Solarforce R2-5M High________160-155________________2 primaries,__________Surefire 6P host__________,
Solarforce Cree R2-S_________210___________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host___________,
Solarforce Cree R2-S_________190___________________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Solarforce Cree Q5,__________150___________________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Nailbender P7 Drop in,________460__turn-on____________2 SF CR123 fresh,______Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
Nailbender P7 Drop in,________387__warm_____________2 SF CR123 fresh,______Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
Nailbender P7 Drop in,________427__turn-on,___________1_18650 LI unprotected__Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
Nailbender P7 Drop in,________357__warm_____________1_18650 LI unprotected__Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
Nailbender P7 Drop-in________300__turn-on____________2_WF CR123 >60 dead__Surefire 6P Patriotic Spirit Edition,
Nailbender P7 Drop-in________446__turn-on,___________2 SF CR123 fresh_______Surefire 6P Patriotic Spirit Edition,
Nailbender P7 Drop-In________377__warm_____________2 SF CR123 fresh_______Surefire 6P Patriotic Spirit Edition,
Nailbender P7 Drop-In________517__turn-on____________3.90V__2.55A Reg supply___ No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________480__turn-on____________1_IMR 18650,_________SureFire 6P_No Bezel__(DD=direct drive)
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________457__turn-on____________1_IMR 18650,_________SureFire 6P_ Bezel AR coated Glass,
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________406__warm,_____________1_IMR 18650,_________SureFire 6P_ Bezel AR coated glass,
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________185__turn-on____________2.99V_0.85A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________314__turn-on____________3.19V_1.60A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________397__turn-on____________3.39V_2.10A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________440__turn-on____________3.52V_2.60A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________470__turn-on____________3.60V_3.01A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________518__turn-on____________3.65V_3.20A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________617__turn-on____________3.82V_4.20A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Would not hold any of the higher values steady state. The higher it started the faster the readings dropped, even for just 5 seconds of testing.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________542__turn-on____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________528__30 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________514__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________509__90 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________504__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________496__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________492__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________488__5 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________482__turn-on____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________461__30 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________453__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________447__90 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________443__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________435__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________430__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________426__5 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________482__turn-on____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________458__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________449__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________445__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________440__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________430__turn-on.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________408__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________400__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________395__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________391__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________388__5 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff M60________________231__turn-on____________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
Malkoff M60________________220__warm,_____________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
Malkoff M60________________235__turn-on____________2 AW ICR123__________Surefire C2 Centurion host_______,
Malkoff M60________________218__warm _____________2 AW ICR 123_________Surefire C2 Centurian host_______,
Malkoff M60________________276__turn on____________2X17500 LI____________NO BEZEL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.__,
Malkoff M60________________245__warm_____________2X17500 LI____________NO BEZEL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.__,
Malkoff M60________________240__turn on,___________2X17500 LI____________w/nonCren BZL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.
Malkoff M60________________215__warm_____________2X17500 LI____________w/nonCren BZL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.
Malkoff M60________________212__turn-on____________2 primaries____________Solarforce L2 host_____________,
Malkoff M60________________202__warm_____________2 primaries_____________Solarforce L2 host_____________,
Malkoff M60F_______________220__turn-on___________2 primaries_____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
Malkoff M60F_______________216__warm_____________2 primaries_____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
Malkoff M60F_______________202___________________2X17500 LI_____________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Malkoff M60W______________172-165________________2X17500 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Malkoff M60W______________185-165________________2X17500 LI,___________ L2 Host 1 extension, Surefire Bezel,
Malkoff M60W______________192 peak_______________2X17500 LI____________NO BEZEL L2 Host 1 extension,
Malkoff M30________________237___________________1X18650LI_____________NO BEZEL L2 Host_____________,
Malkoff M30________________207___________________1X18650LI_____________Solarforce L2 Host______________,
Mag-LED 4D________________50__drop to 40 1 min____4XNiCads____________-------------------------------------,
Mag-LED 4D_______________80 no reflector__________4XNiCads____________-------------------------------------,
Mag Terralux directly________120 (no reflector)________4XNiCads____________-------------------------------------,
Lumens Factor EO-9 Lamp___272__turn on peak______2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, AR Coated glass in BZL.
Lumens Factor EO-9 Lamp___260___warm___________2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, AR Coated glass in BZL.
Lumens Factor HO-9 Lamp___180__________________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___100__________________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___127__turn on peak______2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 18650 Host + 1 ext, AR coated glass in Bezel,
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___122__60sec.___________2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 18650 Host + 1 ext, AR coated glass in Bezel,
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___120__120sec.__________2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 18650 Host + 1 ext, AR coated glass in Bezel,
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___126__turn on peak______2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, no glass in Bezel!
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___122__warm____________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, no glass in Bezel!
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___121__turn on peak______2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, non cren bezel.
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___116__warm____________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, non cren bezel.
SureFire P60 Lamp__________87___turn on peak_____2XCR123____________Solarforce L2 Host, no glass in Bezel!
SureFire P60 Lamp__________75___warm___________2XCR123___________Solarforce L2 Host, no glass in Bezel!
SureFire P60 Lamp__________80___turn on peak_____2XCR123____________Solarforce L2 Host, non crenellated Bezel!
SureFire P60 Lamp__________68___warm___________2XCR123___________Solarforce L2 Host, non crenellated Bezel!
Inova X5 Green._____________16___________________2 primary___________------------------------------------,
Inova X03 06 model__________38___________________2 primaries_________------------------------------------,
Inova T5 (07model),__________96___________________3 primaries__________-----------------------------------,
Inova T5 (06 model,)_________ 46___________________3 primary___________------------------------------------,
Inova T1 (08 model)_________100___________________2 primary___________-----------------------------------,
Fenix T1 turbo______________225 peak (corr)_________2 Delkin RCR123, or New primaries --------------------,
Fenix T1turbo,______________219.4 (corr)____________2 primary____________----------------------------------,
Fenix L1T_High_____________148 peak_down to 140___1 NiMH_____________RV7 3 Level Driver-------------,
Fenix L1T_med,______________33__________________1 NiMH_____________RV7 3 Level Driver-------------,
Fenix L1T_low,_______________10__________________1 NiMH_____________RV7 3 Level Driver--------------,
Fenix L2D Q5 Turbo__________145__________________2 AA alkalines_______same with NiMH-----------------,
Fenix L2D Q5 Med,____________37__________________2 AA alkalines_______same with NiMH-----------------,
Fenix L2D Q5 Lo_______________8__________________2 AA alk____________same with NiMH----------------,
Fenix L2D High_______________76__________________2 AA alk____________same with NiMH ---------------,
Fenix P2D CE Turbo,_________104__________________1 primary___________------------------------------------,
Fenix P2D CE high,___________61__________________1 primary____________------------------------------------,
Fenix P2D CE med,___________30__________________1 primary____________------------------------------------,
Fenix P2D CE low,_____________6.9________________1 primary_____________-----------------------------------,
EagleTac P10A2 Low__________50 (corr),____________2AA eneloops_________---------------------------------,
EagleTac P10A2 High________173 (corr)_____________2AA eneloops_________----------------------------------,
EagleTac T10C2 HIgh________268__turn-on,__________2 primaries____________--------------------------,
EagleTac T10C2 HIgh________256.5__warm,__________2 primaries____________--------------------------,
EagleTac T10C2 Low,_________60 (corr)_____________2 primaries____________----------------------------------,
EagleTac P10C2 High________225__________________2 primaries____________-------------------------------,
EagleTac P10C2 Low,_________50__________________2 primaries____________-------------------------------,
DX_MC-E High_____________337__turn-on,__________1_IMR 16340__________SF E1B Host, custom mod, doesnt hold value
DX_MC-E Low,_____________137__turn-on,__________1_IMR 16340__________SF E1B Host, custom mod,
DX_MC-E High_____________385__turn-on,__________1_18650 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host AR coated glass,
DX_MC-E High_____________345__warm____________1_18650 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host AR coated glass,
DX-MC-E Low______________150__warm____________1_18650 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host AT coated glass,
Duracell Truebeam Wide,______74__________________3AAA Alkalines________-------------------------------,
Duracell Truebeam Wide,______64__________________3AAA NiMH __________-----------------------------,
Duracell Truebeam Narrow_____64__________________3AAA Alkalines________------------------------------,
Duracell Truebeam Narrow_____60__________________3AAA NiMH __________-------------------------------,
Dorcy K2 120 Lm,____________86__________________3 AAA NimH___________------------------------------,
Dorcy K2 120 Lm,___________100 (no reflector)_______3 AAA NimH__________-------------------------------,
Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_High __242__turn on__________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,
Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_High __222__warm____________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,
Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_Med ___78__ warm____________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,
Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_low,____25_ warm,____________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,
DereeLight 3SM5A_Q3-High,___146__________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host------------,
DereeLight 3SM5A_Q3-Med_____87__________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host------------,
DereeLight 3SM5A_Q3-Low_____47__________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host------------,
This Q3 is the older style 1A draw pill, not the newer 1.2 amp draw.
DereeLight 3SD WH R2-High___215__turn-on__________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
DereeLight 3SD WH R2-High___197__warm,___________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
DereeLight 3SD WH R2-Med.____65__warm,___________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
DereeLight 3SD WH R2-Low,____27__warm,___________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
This is the 2.8-4.2V rated pill.
Pill and Reflector Type_____________SLR F Bzl/AR__SLR F plain Bzl__SF 6P Bzl,
Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: High______227___________220____________215,
Dereelight 3SM R2 OP refl: High,_______226___________223____________215,
Dereelight 3SM Q5 SMO refl: High,,_____215___________207____________203,
Dereelight 1SM R2 OP refl: High,_______211___________209____________206,
Dereelight 3SM R2 OP refl: Med,________78.3___________78.3___________74.0,
Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: Med_______77.5___________74.8___________73.0,
Dereelight 3SM Q5 SMO refl: Med_______76.7___________73.3___________71.9,
Dereelight 3SM R2 OP refl: Low,________26.1___________25.9___________24.6,
Dereelight 3SM Q5 SMO refl: Low_______25.7___________24.7___________24.2,
Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: Low_______25.5___________24.8___________24.1,
Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: Low_______25.5___________24.8___________24.1,
Sorted in Order of Brightness from high to low. All of these in a Solarforce Host with 1 extension 2X17500 batteries. Solarforce Bezel with A/R glass, Solarforce Plain glass/Bezel, last is the stock Sure Fire 7P Bezel, all done side by side into same integration sphere on the same day. The R2 is the creamy white/greenish tint Wh. These are all warmed up readings not turn on cold "peak".
Craftsman "170Lm" High,______150___________________6 AAA Alkalines________------------------------------,
Craftsman "170Lm" High,______133___________________6AAA NiMH___________------------------------------,
Craftsman "170Lm" Low,_______89___________________6 AAA Alkalines_________------------------------------,
Craftsman "170Lm" Low,_______74___________________6AAA NiMH____________-------------------------------,
MilkySpit Creemator Low,_______2___________________2 primaries____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,
MilkySpit Creemator L-Med,____26.3_________________2 primaries_____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,
MilkySpit Creemator Med,______80.2__________________2 primaries____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,
MilkySpit Creemator High______242___________________2 primaries____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,
Lumens Factory D26 LED_____182 peak_______________2 primaries down to 170 when warm Sure Fire 6P Host,
Lumens Factory D26 LED_____182 peak_______________2x17500 down to 170 when warm Solarforce 1 ext___,
TNVC Single mode___________166__turn on ___________2X17500 LI___________SureFire Bezel Solarforce Host.
TNVC Single mode___________177__turn on ___________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host with A/R coated glass.
TNVC Single mode___________169__warm_ ___________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host with A/R coated glass.
Neoseikan Spartanian II_______157___________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #13,
Neoseikan Spartanian II_______122.8._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #12,
Neoseikan Spartanian II_______103.7._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #11,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________82.4._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #10,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________70.3._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #9,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________58.2._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #8,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________45.1._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #7,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________31.3._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #6,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________24.6._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #5,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________16.9._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #4,
Neoseikan Spartanian II_________3.97.________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #3
Neoseikan Spartanian II_________1.091________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #2,
Neoseikan Spartanian II_________0.150________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #1,
Solarforce standard Bezel's glass is not AR coated, and the assault crown cuts off a little of the outer perimeter of light, it drops a measurable amount of lumens compared to the Surefire bezel's window.
I have made corrections to Fenix T1 and EagleTacs numbers based on the findings that their steel bezels were adding reflections of light to the total readings by a small percentage. See page 6 for explanation.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pIhrzNLNezKYVu9XmK3dpYg
Credit for the spreadsheet goes to Fooboy. I am guessing that as I add new readings to my chart he will update the spreadsheet shown in this link so that people can get a nice pull down listing of all lights tested thus far. G
Orange readings are Incandescents, (forgive me). Truth is Truth.
Make/Model Torch___________Real IS Lumens_______Batteries____________Notes_____________,
Browning Black Ice 9V________165,__________________3 primaries__________incan--No bezel or glass,
with Magstar Xenon lamp,_____125,__________________3 primaries__________incan--with bezel and glass,
SureFire 6PLED_______________82,__________________2 primaries__________original LED________,
SureFire E2DL on high,________210__turn on___________2 primaries__________Brand new as is from Factory!
SureFire E2DL on high,________203__warm.____________2 primaries__________let it run over a minute,
SureFire E2DL on high,________181__warm.____________2 primaries__________w/SF F04 Diffuser, on > 60sec,
SureFire E2DL on low,___________8.1_________________2 primaries______________________________,
SureFire M600C Scout,________171__turn on___________2 primaries__________KX2C head; single mode version of the E2DL,
SureFire M600C Scout,________165__warm.____________2 primaries__________60 second warm up time.
SureFire M600C Scout,________148__warm.____________2 primaries__________w/SF F04 Diffuser, on > 60sec
SureFire KX2C on E2DL_______192__turn on.___________2 primaries__________Different KX2C head on my E2DL body.
SureFire KX2C on E2DL_______185__warm_____________2 primaries__________Different KX2C head on my E2DL body.
Solarforce R2-S______________202___________________3 RCRs,_____________Browning Black Ice 3 cell host.
Solarforce R2-5M low,__________37___________________2 primaries___________Surefire 6P host_________,
Solarforce R2-5M Med,_________85___________________2 primaries___________Surefire 6P host___________,
Solarforce R2-5M High________160-155________________2 primaries,__________Surefire 6P host__________,
Solarforce Cree R2-S_________210___________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host___________,
Solarforce Cree R2-S_________190___________________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Solarforce Cree Q5,__________150___________________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Nailbender P7 Drop in,________460__turn-on____________2 SF CR123 fresh,______Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
Nailbender P7 Drop in,________387__warm_____________2 SF CR123 fresh,______Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
Nailbender P7 Drop in,________427__turn-on,___________1_18650 LI unprotected__Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
Nailbender P7 Drop in,________357__warm_____________1_18650 LI unprotected__Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
Nailbender P7 Drop-in________300__turn-on____________2_WF CR123 >60 dead__Surefire 6P Patriotic Spirit Edition,
Nailbender P7 Drop-in________446__turn-on,___________2 SF CR123 fresh_______Surefire 6P Patriotic Spirit Edition,
Nailbender P7 Drop-In________377__warm_____________2 SF CR123 fresh_______Surefire 6P Patriotic Spirit Edition,
Nailbender P7 Drop-In________517__turn-on____________3.90V__2.55A Reg supply___ No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________480__turn-on____________1_IMR 18650,_________SureFire 6P_No Bezel__(DD=direct drive)
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________457__turn-on____________1_IMR 18650,_________SureFire 6P_ Bezel AR coated Glass,
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________406__warm,_____________1_IMR 18650,_________SureFire 6P_ Bezel AR coated glass,
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________185__turn-on____________2.99V_0.85A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________314__turn-on____________3.19V_1.60A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________397__turn-on____________3.39V_2.10A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________440__turn-on____________3.52V_2.60A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________470__turn-on____________3.60V_3.01A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________518__turn-on____________3.65V_3.20A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________617__turn-on____________3.82V_4.20A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
Would not hold any of the higher values steady state. The higher it started the faster the readings dropped, even for just 5 seconds of testing.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________542__turn-on____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________528__30 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________514__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________509__90 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________504__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________496__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________492__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________488__5 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________482__turn-on____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________461__30 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________453__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________447__90 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________443__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________435__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________430__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________426__5 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________482__turn-on____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________458__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________449__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________445__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________440__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________430__turn-on.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________408__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________400__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________395__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________391__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________388__5 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
Malkoff M60________________231__turn-on____________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
Malkoff M60________________220__warm,_____________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
Malkoff M60________________235__turn-on____________2 AW ICR123__________Surefire C2 Centurion host_______,
Malkoff M60________________218__warm _____________2 AW ICR 123_________Surefire C2 Centurian host_______,
Malkoff M60________________276__turn on____________2X17500 LI____________NO BEZEL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.__,
Malkoff M60________________245__warm_____________2X17500 LI____________NO BEZEL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.__,
Malkoff M60________________240__turn on,___________2X17500 LI____________w/nonCren BZL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.
Malkoff M60________________215__warm_____________2X17500 LI____________w/nonCren BZL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.
Malkoff M60________________212__turn-on____________2 primaries____________Solarforce L2 host_____________,
Malkoff M60________________202__warm_____________2 primaries_____________Solarforce L2 host_____________,
Malkoff M60F_______________220__turn-on___________2 primaries_____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
Malkoff M60F_______________216__warm_____________2 primaries_____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
Malkoff M60F_______________202___________________2X17500 LI_____________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Malkoff M60W______________172-165________________2X17500 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Malkoff M60W______________185-165________________2X17500 LI,___________ L2 Host 1 extension, Surefire Bezel,
Malkoff M60W______________192 peak_______________2X17500 LI____________NO BEZEL L2 Host 1 extension,
Malkoff M30________________237___________________1X18650LI_____________NO BEZEL L2 Host_____________,
Malkoff M30________________207___________________1X18650LI_____________Solarforce L2 Host______________,
Mag-LED 4D________________50__drop to 40 1 min____4XNiCads____________-------------------------------------,
Mag-LED 4D_______________80 no reflector__________4XNiCads____________-------------------------------------,
Mag Terralux directly________120 (no reflector)________4XNiCads____________-------------------------------------,
Lumens Factor EO-9 Lamp___272__turn on peak______2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, AR Coated glass in BZL.
Lumens Factor EO-9 Lamp___260___warm___________2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, AR Coated glass in BZL.
Lumens Factor HO-9 Lamp___180__________________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___100__________________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___127__turn on peak______2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 18650 Host + 1 ext, AR coated glass in Bezel,
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___122__60sec.___________2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 18650 Host + 1 ext, AR coated glass in Bezel,
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___120__120sec.__________2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 18650 Host + 1 ext, AR coated glass in Bezel,
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___126__turn on peak______2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, no glass in Bezel!
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___122__warm____________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, no glass in Bezel!
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___121__turn on peak______2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, non cren bezel.
Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___116__warm____________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, non cren bezel.
SureFire P60 Lamp__________87___turn on peak_____2XCR123____________Solarforce L2 Host, no glass in Bezel!
SureFire P60 Lamp__________75___warm___________2XCR123___________Solarforce L2 Host, no glass in Bezel!
SureFire P60 Lamp__________80___turn on peak_____2XCR123____________Solarforce L2 Host, non crenellated Bezel!
SureFire P60 Lamp__________68___warm___________2XCR123___________Solarforce L2 Host, non crenellated Bezel!
Inova X5 Green._____________16___________________2 primary___________------------------------------------,
Inova X03 06 model__________38___________________2 primaries_________------------------------------------,
Inova T5 (07model),__________96___________________3 primaries__________-----------------------------------,
Inova T5 (06 model,)_________ 46___________________3 primary___________------------------------------------,
Inova T1 (08 model)_________100___________________2 primary___________-----------------------------------,
Fenix T1 turbo______________225 peak (corr)_________2 Delkin RCR123, or New primaries --------------------,
Fenix T1turbo,______________219.4 (corr)____________2 primary____________----------------------------------,
Fenix L1T_High_____________148 peak_down to 140___1 NiMH_____________RV7 3 Level Driver-------------,
Fenix L1T_med,______________33__________________1 NiMH_____________RV7 3 Level Driver-------------,
Fenix L1T_low,_______________10__________________1 NiMH_____________RV7 3 Level Driver--------------,
Fenix L2D Q5 Turbo__________145__________________2 AA alkalines_______same with NiMH-----------------,
Fenix L2D Q5 Med,____________37__________________2 AA alkalines_______same with NiMH-----------------,
Fenix L2D Q5 Lo_______________8__________________2 AA alk____________same with NiMH----------------,
Fenix L2D High_______________76__________________2 AA alk____________same with NiMH ---------------,
Fenix P2D CE Turbo,_________104__________________1 primary___________------------------------------------,
Fenix P2D CE high,___________61__________________1 primary____________------------------------------------,
Fenix P2D CE med,___________30__________________1 primary____________------------------------------------,
Fenix P2D CE low,_____________6.9________________1 primary_____________-----------------------------------,
EagleTac P10A2 Low__________50 (corr),____________2AA eneloops_________---------------------------------,
EagleTac P10A2 High________173 (corr)_____________2AA eneloops_________----------------------------------,
EagleTac T10C2 HIgh________268__turn-on,__________2 primaries____________--------------------------,
EagleTac T10C2 HIgh________256.5__warm,__________2 primaries____________--------------------------,
EagleTac T10C2 Low,_________60 (corr)_____________2 primaries____________----------------------------------,
EagleTac P10C2 High________225__________________2 primaries____________-------------------------------,
EagleTac P10C2 Low,_________50__________________2 primaries____________-------------------------------,
DX_MC-E High_____________337__turn-on,__________1_IMR 16340__________SF E1B Host, custom mod, doesnt hold value
DX_MC-E Low,_____________137__turn-on,__________1_IMR 16340__________SF E1B Host, custom mod,
DX_MC-E High_____________385__turn-on,__________1_18650 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host AR coated glass,
DX_MC-E High_____________345__warm____________1_18650 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host AR coated glass,
DX-MC-E Low______________150__warm____________1_18650 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host AT coated glass,
Duracell Truebeam Wide,______74__________________3AAA Alkalines________-------------------------------,
Duracell Truebeam Wide,______64__________________3AAA NiMH __________-----------------------------,
Duracell Truebeam Narrow_____64__________________3AAA Alkalines________------------------------------,
Duracell Truebeam Narrow_____60__________________3AAA NiMH __________-------------------------------,
Dorcy K2 120 Lm,____________86__________________3 AAA NimH___________------------------------------,
Dorcy K2 120 Lm,___________100 (no reflector)_______3 AAA NimH__________-------------------------------,
Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_High __242__turn on__________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,
Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_High __222__warm____________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,
Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_Med ___78__ warm____________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,
Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_low,____25_ warm,____________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,
DereeLight 3SM5A_Q3-High,___146__________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host------------,
DereeLight 3SM5A_Q3-Med_____87__________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host------------,
DereeLight 3SM5A_Q3-Low_____47__________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host------------,
This Q3 is the older style 1A draw pill, not the newer 1.2 amp draw.
DereeLight 3SD WH R2-High___215__turn-on__________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
DereeLight 3SD WH R2-High___197__warm,___________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
DereeLight 3SD WH R2-Med.____65__warm,___________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
DereeLight 3SD WH R2-Low,____27__warm,___________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
This is the 2.8-4.2V rated pill.
Pill and Reflector Type_____________SLR F Bzl/AR__SLR F plain Bzl__SF 6P Bzl,
Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: High______227___________220____________215,
Dereelight 3SM R2 OP refl: High,_______226___________223____________215,
Dereelight 3SM Q5 SMO refl: High,,_____215___________207____________203,
Dereelight 1SM R2 OP refl: High,_______211___________209____________206,
Dereelight 3SM R2 OP refl: Med,________78.3___________78.3___________74.0,
Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: Med_______77.5___________74.8___________73.0,
Dereelight 3SM Q5 SMO refl: Med_______76.7___________73.3___________71.9,
Dereelight 3SM R2 OP refl: Low,________26.1___________25.9___________24.6,
Dereelight 3SM Q5 SMO refl: Low_______25.7___________24.7___________24.2,
Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: Low_______25.5___________24.8___________24.1,
Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: Low_______25.5___________24.8___________24.1,
Sorted in Order of Brightness from high to low. All of these in a Solarforce Host with 1 extension 2X17500 batteries. Solarforce Bezel with A/R glass, Solarforce Plain glass/Bezel, last is the stock Sure Fire 7P Bezel, all done side by side into same integration sphere on the same day. The R2 is the creamy white/greenish tint Wh. These are all warmed up readings not turn on cold "peak".
Craftsman "170Lm" High,______150___________________6 AAA Alkalines________------------------------------,
Craftsman "170Lm" High,______133___________________6AAA NiMH___________------------------------------,
Craftsman "170Lm" Low,_______89___________________6 AAA Alkalines_________------------------------------,
Craftsman "170Lm" Low,_______74___________________6AAA NiMH____________-------------------------------,
MilkySpit Creemator Low,_______2___________________2 primaries____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,
MilkySpit Creemator L-Med,____26.3_________________2 primaries_____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,
MilkySpit Creemator Med,______80.2__________________2 primaries____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,
MilkySpit Creemator High______242___________________2 primaries____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,
Lumens Factory D26 LED_____182 peak_______________2 primaries down to 170 when warm Sure Fire 6P Host,
Lumens Factory D26 LED_____182 peak_______________2x17500 down to 170 when warm Solarforce 1 ext___,
TNVC Single mode___________166__turn on ___________2X17500 LI___________SureFire Bezel Solarforce Host.
TNVC Single mode___________177__turn on ___________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host with A/R coated glass.
TNVC Single mode___________169__warm_ ___________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host with A/R coated glass.
Neoseikan Spartanian II_______157___________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #13,
Neoseikan Spartanian II_______122.8._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #12,
Neoseikan Spartanian II_______103.7._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #11,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________82.4._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #10,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________70.3._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #9,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________58.2._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #8,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________45.1._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #7,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________31.3._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #6,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________24.6._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #5,
Neoseikan Spartanian II________16.9._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #4,
Neoseikan Spartanian II_________3.97.________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #3
Neoseikan Spartanian II_________1.091________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #2,
Neoseikan Spartanian II_________0.150________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #1,
Solarforce standard Bezel's glass is not AR coated, and the assault crown cuts off a little of the outer perimeter of light, it drops a measurable amount of lumens compared to the Surefire bezel's window.
I have made corrections to Fenix T1 and EagleTacs numbers based on the findings that their steel bezels were adding reflections of light to the total readings by a small percentage. See page 6 for explanation.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pIhrzNLNezKYVu9XmK3dpYg
Credit for the spreadsheet goes to Fooboy. I am guessing that as I add new readings to my chart he will update the spreadsheet shown in this link so that people can get a nice pull down listing of all lights tested thus far. G
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