Fenix Counterfeit or clones?

Are Fenix lights counterfeited?

I've seen clones before yes. But they were easy to spot.

I have seen clones, like one of their headlamps, but with a different brand name.

Here's info from Fenix:
https://www.fenixlighting.com/beware-counterfeit-fenix-merchandise/

Fakes coming from China? Gasp!!

Say it aint so.

In your mind, what is the difference between "counterfeit" and "clone"?

To me, they are both the same. I'll add fake in there as well. It's sad that so many companies have to worry about some cheap knockoff of their product, and it seems to be acceptable to many purchasers. Lights and knives seem to be some of the worst.

DavidRZ said:

In your mind, what is the difference between "counterfeit" and "clone"?

To me, they are both the same. I'll add fake in there as well. It's sad that so many companies have to worry about some cheap knockoff of their product, and it seems to be acceptable to many purchasers. Lights and knives seem to be some of the worst.

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Well, a clone "appears to be a copy of the original" -- like the Boruit RJ-O2 headlamp...cloning the Fenix headlamp, but branded as Boruit.

While a counterfeit is made in imitation of the original with intent to deceive (emphasis on 'deceive)...and in this example, if that Boruit headlamp was branded as a Fenix, and sold as one.

I've seen clones, but no counterfeits.
I consider a counterfeit anything that uses the same or similar name and imitates packaging

You copy the name or the design, both are bad business and the same in my book. The markings don't make a difference to me, if you copy the design you are clearly trying to deceive the buyer into thinking your product is legitimate. If not, then you are just copying a design rather than give them credit for it. Poor business practices that I won't support.

tatasal said:

Well, a clone "appears to be a copy of the original" -- like the Boruit RJ-O2 headlamp...cloning the Fenix headlamp, but branded as Boruit.

While a counterfeit is made in imitation of the original with intent to deceive (emphasis on 'deceive)...and in this example, if that Boruit headlamp was branded as a Fenix, and sold as one.

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