surefire deutschland

alex74 · May 14, 2018

hi to all sorry for my ignorance but reading messages on the forum I read of "surefire deutschland": are torches made in Germany?
what are the differences to the American ones?
could you explain the story to me?
for collectors are of equal value?
thanks to all those who will answer me

MikeSalt · May 14, 2018

I'm sorry, it's not something I've heard of either. It would be good if they were made in Germany though, so import charges can be avoided for EU customers such as you and I (until March 2019 of course).

WarriorOfLight · May 14, 2018

In the past (~10-15 years ago) the previous German Distributor of Surefire sold lights marked with "Surefire Deutschland", but the lights were always made in USA. The Distributor does not exist anymore from what I know.

Today the Distributor for at least Germany is "Manfred Alberts GmbH". You can get basically all SF lights in the German Flashlightshop (Flashlightshop.de). Depending on the light the prices are more or less high. The EDCL1/2 and Tactician are fair in price, the i.e. Aviators are expensive...

id30209 · May 14, 2018

I wonder when they'll get (flashlightshop.de) new SF lights like Fury DFT and batteries as well. Most of the lights they sell are not the newest date.

Kestrel · May 14, 2018

At least a couple 'German' SF 3P's (i.e. tailcap engraving) have went through the B/S/T subforum over the years.
IIRC, they sold for a slight discount here in the US i.e. ~$150 vs $200.

vadimax · May 15, 2018

Their prices are insane. For example, E1B-MV — 259€…

id30209 · May 15, 2018

vadimax said:
Their prices are insane. For example, E1B-MV — 259€…

Yeap, to get those lamps taxes will kill you here in EU

Eric242 · May 15, 2018

alex74 said:
are torches made in Germany?

No, they were never made in germany. WarriorOfLight already explained it very well. In addition I just wanted to mention, that back in those days a lot of the Surefire designations had in added -PH. For example the 6P was the 6P-PH in germany. PH simply were the initials of the distributor/importer Peter Hoffmann.

Eric

alex74 · May 16, 2018

thank you all for the answers:thumbsup:

The_Driver · May 16, 2018

They have to do this to be able to sell them with reasonable margins.

vadimax · May 16, 2018

The_Driver said:
They have to do this to be able to sell them with reasonable margins.

You must be kiddin. 259€ = $317. They more than doubled E1B-MV MSRP price.

The_Driver · May 16, 2018

vadimax said:
You must be kiddin. 259€ = $317. They more than doubled E1B-MV MSRP price.

I meant adding their name to the name of the light.

id30209 · May 16, 2018

The_Driver said:
I meant adding their name to the name of the light.

Maybe on paper, not for real. It is still SF like the one bought in US.
Custom charges build up their price.

The_Driver · May 17, 2018

id30209 said:
Maybe on paper, not for real. It is still SF like the one bought in US.
Custom charges build up their price.

Of course it is. They just add their name. They do this with all manufacturers, not just Surefire. It has legal reasons.

id30209 · May 24, 2018

Talking about prices just got an email from flashlightshop.de that they'll get SF Fury DFT in 4 weeks and price will be 259€...

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