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    I don't know if you've heard back from Scout yet but.......

    Quote Originally Posted by scout24 View Post
    Well, I had originally signed up for this passaround after ordering a Synergy, thinking if it didn't arrive quickly, I would at least get to check one out before my order arrived. Well, mine was in the mailbox today. Please take my name off the list and let RogerSully and the rest of the crew get to see it quicker!
    ...I don't know if anything has changed and he might want to see the new style but I'm just throwing this out there.

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    Haha scout24 confirmed he's passing, guess it's you Roge_Sully. Please resend your shipping information via PM to confirm.
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    PM sent!

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    Passaround is en route Roger_Sully
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    Thanks for the add. Checking in from FB/flashlight fanatics.

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    Though it looks like a long waiting period, count me in!

    Very cool looking light, and would love to test a short 2XAAA in a side by side arrangement against my long time companion, a "Streamix" LD01 head on a Stylus Pro body with 2 Eneloops.
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    This is different, gotta check it out. Please add me to the long list.

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    Wanted to share some more pictures I took on my last day with the Synergy1. This is a large album of images. I am always terrible at narrowing them down so figured I will just post them all for everyone to enjoy! I originally planned to title the album "Farewell to Frelux" and it seems all the more appropriate now. Also, a few more quick thoughts I forgot to include last time. The clip came installed on the left side and most pictures I have seen have it on that side as well. I personally prefer it on the right side. Seems to give better ergonomics for how I hold and pocket the light. A question came up as well if the clip was functional and stuck up above the highest point on the side of the body. I also was curious if it were going to be able and slide on and off the pocket one handed or if you would have to pull up on the clip. The lip of the clip does extend up slightly above the body and works very well. It was one of the more functional clips I have used on a light and easily slid on and off the pocket one handed.
    https://imgur.com/a/KXwJHSZ

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    Received the light this evening and I'm impressed with it so far. Going to carry it around for a bit and let y'all know my thoughts!

    Edit: The light did not come with batteries. Thankfully I had 2 alkalines on hand or I would have had to wait for tomorrow to play. I almost never have AAAs!
    Last edited by Roger Sully; 08-23-2018 at 08:00 PM.

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    OK i need to get myself one of these.....The low could be a little lower for bopping around the house in the wee hours but other than that I can’t think of any cons to state!
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    Light received today. I will post my review next week.
    I choose to carry a flashlight because I am often kept in the dark.

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    Glad to see it on the move again, thanks guys and appreciate your input Roger_Sully
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    First of all, thanks to Roger Sully. He shipped it to me UPS overnight.

    I was not expecting to like this light as much as I do. It really impressed me. I think the led on this second light in the passaround must be a Nichia 219 C or B. The CRI and tint is very good. The light fits very nicely in the hand. Depending how it is held, either the fingers or the thumb sit nicely in the center contour. The low and medium modes are very close together. So much so that you have to look hard to tell them apart. It tail stands very well and will not be rolling off of a table.

    I will likely end up buying one at some point.

    I would like to see another clip option. A reverse clip to allow it to be clipped to the bill of a hat. The size and shape of this light would be perfect for that.
    I choose to carry a flashlight because I am often kept in the dark.

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    The light was shipped to eraursls1984 this morning. It's going to be missed.
    I choose to carry a flashlight because I am often kept in the dark.

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    Well, this is awkward. I had asked to be added to the list but seeing as how long it was already and I didn't want to wait 5 to 6 months just to get my hands on one I went ahead and bought one. So I no longer need to be added to the list. Since I'm posting, might as well go ahead and spill my thoughts on this light.

    Con's:
    • Same thing others have said regarding the driver. It's not intuitive using MLH especially when M & L are almost the same. Low should be lower and should be LMH.
    • I worry about the screw/bolt or retention cap getting stripped. Changing batteries can be cumbersome, pushing and holding everything together while screwing down the retention cap. Maybe it just takes time to get used to or practice, but I worry about starting the threads and turning it a time or two before I realize I'm off on an angle and just eating the threads. Have there been any problems or reports from others doing this in the past?


    Pro's:
    • Unique design and looks. Not much out there looks like this and those that are similar (Nitecore MT22A and Sunwayman D20A) don't look as good in my opinion... except maybe the Cool Fall Spy (at well over 10x the price).
    • Top quality machining, fit and finish. Everything fits together precisely and perfectly, no gaps or voids.
    • Fuel source is easily obtainable, AAA can be gotten anywhere.
    • The clip appeared to look lacking, but after getting my hands on one it more than adequately holds the light tightly. It was also specifically cut to fit so that it's tight and conforms to the shape of the body, testament to the thought that appears to have gone into the entire light.
    • The beam is pleasant, nice hot spot and spill with no ugly artifacts, reflector makes this good for tasks within several feet.
    • Very comfortable in the hand with multiple ways to hold the light.
    • The packaging tin it comes in was also a nice touch. Wasn't just vacuformed in some hard to open plastic bubble.


    I've not had the light long enough to comment yet on run time. Nor can I comment on the durability as I'm not about to perform drop tests on mine, nor should you on the pass around. I've read that the light is water resistant, but doesn't guarantee being water proof. Again, this is not something I'm willing to test with mine. If I ever have an accident I'll update my post.

    Overall, this light isn't going to blow anyone away. It's not a blinding torch made to turn night into day or to light up an object a hundred yards away. It's a unique little pocket carry light that will more than adequately cast light on the task at hand so that you can see. It's simple to use and doesn't require a cheat sheet or memorization for programming functions. After reading about the upcoming enhancements, I'll definitely look to purchase another that addresses the shortcomings of the UI. The price is very good for a custom built unique flashlight that provides multiple color options to make it look how you want.

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    I have contacted DatiLED, and will get it out to him soon. Thank you Benjamin and Ozy!

    Some quick thoughts. This light is an absolute steal for an American made light of this caliber, at this price. I am very interested in learning more about the new driver, as the current one is my least favorite aspect of this light. The switch has a very tactile feel, personally I'd rather it be slightly softer and quieter, most will love it. I found it difficult to press occasionally, I think this was just due to my large meat paws.

    A few aesthetic aspects I'd live to see. I'd love more material choices (Titanium especially). I'd like the grip on the sides to extend the full length of the light on both sides. The side of the body with the switch is round, the LED side is hexagon shaped. I'd like to see both sides with the hexagon shape.

    A new driver and Titanium and I'm sold. Changing lof the other minor nitpick things I mentioned would just be icing on the cake.

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    I am next on the list for the pass around, but am heading out of town on October 1 for work, and will not be back until November 16. I do not want to delay anyone else getting the Frelux passaroud, and have asked that it be shipped it to the next person in line. If there is availability once I get back in November, I would definitely be interested in seeing it. Otherwise, I'll be content to read through this thread.
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    I've contacted Dman7777, hopefully I get his info in time to get it out tomorrow.

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    Great writeup mraymer! Here's some replies

    Quote Originally Posted by mraymer View Post
    Well, this is awkward. I had asked to be added to the list but seeing as how long it was already and I didn't want to wait 5 to 6 months just to get my hands on one I went ahead and bought one. So I no longer need to be added to the list. Since I'm posting, might as well go ahead and spill my thoughts on this light.

    Con's:
    • Same thing others have said regarding the driver. It's not intuitive using MLH especially when M & L are almost the same. Low should be lower and should be LMH.New driver is only a couple weeks out. LMH, better mode spacing and maybe even a higher top output
    • I worry about the screw/bolt or retention cap getting stripped. Changing batteries can be cumbersome, pushing and holding everything together while screwing down the retention cap. Maybe it just takes time to get used to or practice, but I worry about starting the threads and turning it a time or two before I realize I'm off on an angle and just eating the threads. Have there been any problems or reports from others doing this in the past? A couple people mentioned it being a bit cumbersome but as far as I'm aware no one has stripped the nut or expressed any concerns about that. This is something being taken into consideration with future designs.


    Pro's:
    • Unique design and looks. Not much out there looks like this and those that are similar (Nitecore MT22A and Sunwayman D20A) don't look as good in my opinion... except maybe the Cool Fall Spy (at well over 10x the price).
    • Top quality machining, fit and finish. Everything fits together precisely and perfectly, no gaps or voids.
    • Fuel source is easily obtainable, AAA can be gotten anywhere.
    • The clip appeared to look lacking, but after getting my hands on one it more than adequately holds the light tightly. It was also specifically cut to fit so that it's tight and conforms to the shape of the body, testament to the thought that appears to have gone into the entire light.
    • The beam is pleasant, nice hot spot and spill with no ugly artifacts, reflector makes this good for tasks within several feet.
    • Very comfortable in the hand with multiple ways to hold the light.
    • The packaging tin it comes in was also a nice touch. Wasn't just vacuformed in some hard to open plastic bubble.


    I've not had the light long enough to comment yet on run time. Nor can I comment on the durability as I'm not about to perform drop tests on mine, nor should you on the pass around. I've read that the light is water resistant, but doesn't guarantee being water proof. Again, this is not something I'm willing to test with mine. If I ever have an accident I'll update my post.

    Overall, this light isn't going to blow anyone away. It's not a blinding torch made to turn night into day or to light up an object a hundred yards away. It's a unique little pocket carry light that will more than adequately cast light on the task at hand so that you can see. It's simple to use and doesn't require a cheat sheet or memorization for programming functions. After reading about the upcoming enhancements, I'll definitely look to purchase another that addresses the shortcomings of the UI. The price is very good for a custom built unique flashlight that provides multiple color options to make it look how you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by mraymer
    Some quick thoughts. This light is an absolute steal for an American made light of this caliber, at this price. I am very interested in learning more about the new driver, as the current one is my least favorite aspect of this light. The switch has a very tactile feel, personally I'd rather it be slightly softer and quieter, most will love it. I found it difficult to press occasionally, I think this was just due to my large meat paws.

    A few aesthetic aspects I'd live to see. I'd love more material choices (Titanium especially). I'd like the grip on the sides to extend the full length of the light on both sides. The side of the body with the switch is round, the LED side is hexagon shaped. I'd like to see both sides with the hexagon shape.

    A new driver and Titanium and I'm sold. Changing lof the other minor nitpick things I mentioned would just be icing on the cake.
    More great input!

    With regards to the titanium, unfortunately the entirety of this light cannot be built out of a bare metal, the design relies on anodizing in key areas to prevent shorts. The center swap can be bare metal and there's some cool new designs coming out





    About making the "switch tube" hexagonal to match the other one, it was designed this way for maximum comfort. When held in hand for use your fingers kinda wrap around the bottom, having flat sides with corners can create hot spots in the grip for some people.
    White wall hunting is not a very good indicator of a flashlight’s potential, not sure where it got it’s popularity. - DB Customs

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    I've been following Benjamin's Frelux Faction on facebook, the new design with the inlays is quite a step up in design.

    I received word from eraursls1984 that the pass-around torch is on its way to me. It will probably arrive later this week, when I'm out of town....
    Will look forward to putting this little torch through its paces!

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    Well, look what just showed up!



    Great timing, as I'm heading out of town in the morning. This will be helpful over the next few days.

    ~Daniel
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    I'll have this torch ready to ship tomorrow (Wed 10.10), but as of yet haven't heard from fl0t.

    Will PM LiquidRetro just in case.
    *edit, it looks like LR hasn't posted in a couple months either. I've got PM's into OzyM to keep him in the loop.

    ~D
    Last edited by DrafterDan; 10-09-2018 at 06:08 PM.
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    Thoughts and musings:
    Okay, I've dabbled in creating a flashlight from scratch. I'll be the first to tell you it's not for the faint of heart. So I can tell you from several decades of AutoCAD design experience that this piece has had some serious thought put into it.



    Is it cool? Heck yeah. Is it a barn-burner? Nope, not really. But if Lumens is your only yardstick, then you are definitely missing out on an interesting torch.

    This arrived just in time for me to toss it in my pocket and jump on a plane to Missouri. It was with me constantly, as I helped a family member move across state lines. First thoughts are "how the heck do I hold this?", but a few seconds of playing with it certainly gives you all the answers you need.




    I've been keeping up on the tread as it progresses, so I'm excited to see what Mr Frelux has in store for the driver and switch. That's my only real complaint, as has been noted before. Not much difference between med and high, and the switch is loud. Really, these are pretty damn minor points, but we aren't going to get anywhere without some constructive criticism.




    The clearance between the male parts (with the O-rings) and the head/ tail female parts is .003" on each side. So when you snap it together, it's a really nice fit. To put this in perspective, your basic printer paper is .004" thick.
    Another small point? I'd like to see the center brass thread rod have a slot at the end to tighten it into the head. It doesn't have any thread-lock, so it's possible for this to back out, and the assembly not to screw together properly. Again, a small point.



    See the above picture, this is what I mean by attention to detail. If you're in the field and don't remember which way the AAA's are supposed to go? Just look at the tail part. It has the Neg and Pos labeled. Brilliant!



    So stop futzing around and go buy this torch! It's a welcome addition to your collection. Plus, it fits into any pocket (not just the 5th pocket in your jeans) rather simply.
    Have torch, will travel.

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    Thanks Dan!

    In other news, new drivers have arrived! Check this video for a comparison http://tinypic.com/r/210n2w9/9

    You'll see the new driver is first of all Low > Medium > High and has a lower low mode and a higher high mode, resulting in better mode spacing and more output!

    Benjamin is waiting on some Nichia LEDs before opening up the new preorder, which will feature the upgraded driver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozythemandias View Post
    Thanks Dan!

    In other news, new drivers have arrived! Check this video for a comparison http://tinypic.com/r/210n2w9/9

    You'll see the new driver is first of all Low > Medium > High and has a lower low mode and a higher high mode, resulting in better mode spacing and more output!

    Benjamin is waiting on some Nichia LEDs before opening up the new preorder, which will feature the upgraded driver.
    Eagerly awaiting
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    Passaround has been returned to Benjamin for a driver upgrade, it should be heading out to LiquidRetro1 by Monday with the latest and greatest driver!

    Man this passaround has really been a a adventure so far 🤣
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    Passaround unit has been upgraded with the new driver and is now in the hands of LiquidRetro1.

    I took the passaround light to a 2gun competition yesterday and it carried really well during the days fun in the sun.
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    Hi, Ozythemandias. Just want to re-post my interest as it seems I'm not on the list. First request was a couple months ago in post #96. Hope to get a chance to check out this cool looking light. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bimmerboy View Post
    Hi, Ozythemandias. Just want to re-post my interest as it seems I'm not on the list. First request was a couple months ago in post #96. Hope to get a chance to check out this cool looking light. Thanks!
    Whoops, Added!!

    I double checked your position to make sure you're in the right slot. I know it seems like a while, some of the names with an asterisks may be skipped so don't worry.

    (I double checked when Jon L contacted me to make sure you're in the right position)
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    Passaround is still making its way around the country, currently in the hands of Marcos D

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