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Someone stick the head on the body of an LX2 or AZ2 and report back, please? I have my fingers crossed that it'll behave the same way as the EB1 does with different tailcaps...
 
I don't know how the EB1 acts with different tailcaps, but here's how the E2DL Ultra head acts on an LX2 body:

light press gives low, with same output as on E2DL Ultra body
full press gives high, with same output as on E2DL Ultra body

Grizz
 
I don't know how the EB1 acts with different tailcaps, but here's how the E2DL Ultra head acts on an LX2 body:

light press gives low, with same output as on E2DL Ultra body
full press gives high, with same output as on E2DL Ultra body

Grizz
Thank you very much, Grizzman!

That is exactly how the EB1 behaves with different tail-caps, and what I was hoping for. I would presume this means the head of the E2DL Ultra, like the EB1, is designed to recognise the difference between a tactical two stage tail-cap and a clicky tail-cap. Remove the crenellations and give it an EB1 body elongated for two cells... voila, the SureFire EB2! Then it's only a matter of putting a two stage tail or a clicky tail on it, to give it tactical (EB2T) or clicky (EB2C) functionality.

Those mourning the cancellation of the LX2 Ultra... rejoice! The LX2U lives, but in black (barring cancellation of the EB2)!
 
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Thank you very much, Grizzman!

That is exactly how the EB1 behaves with different tail-caps, and what I was hoping for. I would presume this means the head of the E2DL Ultra, like the EB1, is designed to recognise the difference between a tactical two stage tail-cap and a clicky tail-cap. Remove the crenellations and give it an EB1 body elongated for two cells... voila, the SureFire EB2! Then it's only a matter of putting a two stage tail or a clicky tail on it, to give it tactical (EB2T) or clicky (EB2C) functionality.

Those mourning the cancellation of the LX2 Ultra... rejoice! The LX2U lives, but in black (barring cancellation of the EB2)!

Buying a E2DLU & removing the crenellation is not a problem for me, the only problem is the colors of LX2 body and E2DLU head won't match.
 
Buying a E2DLU & removing the crenellation is not a problem for me, the only problem is the colors of LX2 body and E2DLU head won't match.
Hey Jack! How's it going! :D

If you want matching colours, I guess you'd have to go with an AZ2 body. Hopefully the EB2 will come in olive drab as well as the usual black, silver and tan colours.

Thanks to the guys who've already posted their impressions and experiences with their E2DLUs so far! I wonder if any of our reviewers will post a review soon? :broke:
 
Hey Jack! How's it going! :D

If you want matching colours, I guess you'd have to go with an AZ2 body. Hopefully the EB2 will come in olive drab as well as the usual black, silver and tan colours.

Thanks to the guys who've already posted their impressions and experiences with their E2DLUs so far! I wonder if any of our reviewers will post a review soon? :broke:

Hey Kevin! I do have an AZ2-S and now it seems that I can lego a TIR Combatlight with 500 SF lumen! The only problem with the AZ2 host is its tailcap..way too tight no matter how I lubricate the o ring and thread.

Is Robin doing a review on the E2DL Ultra?
 
Careful there, some folks will take umbrage at your use of the phrase "SF lumen" and ask you how those lumens differ from regular lumens :D

You are right the tailcap on my AZ2 is also very tight, I guess it's the o-ring being a tad oversized. Intend to swap mine out one day and see if it makes a difference.

Anyway, not to derail the thread - am very excited to get one of these E2DLUs in hand to try, but in the meantime am looking forward to full reviews. Not sure if Robin has a unit to review, maybe he'll see this and chime in...
 
Careful there, some folks will take umbrage at your use of the phrase "SF lumen" and ask you how those lumens differ from regular lumens :D

You are right the tailcap on my AZ2 is also very tight, I guess it's the o-ring being a tad oversized. Intend to swap mine out one day and see if it makes a difference.

Anyway, not to derail the thread - am very excited to get one of these E2DLUs in hand to try, but in the meantime am looking forward to full reviews. Not sure if Robin has a unit to review, maybe he'll see this and chime in...

One more derailing reply: Actually the AZ2/AZ2-S tailcap o ring is already smaller than standard C/P/M tailcap o ring. Swapping to a smaller o ring might jeopardize the light's watertightness. Just my personal conjecture.
 
One more derailing reply: Actually the AZ2/AZ2-S tailcap o ring is already smaller than standard C/P/M tailcap o ring. Swapping to a smaller o ring might jeopardize the light's watertightness. Just my personal conjecture.
Just compared the o rings of my AZ2-S and Z2, the one on the AZ2 is indeed thinner. I've always assumed that since the threads were compatible, it had to be that the AZ2 had thicker o rings! You learn something new every day. I also discovered that the tailcap on the AZ2-S isn't as tight as I imagined/remembered it to be (been a while since it was in EDC rotation). Definitely tighter than the very seasoned and broken-in LX2 that I can twist with one finger, but about equal with the Z2 and other C/P/M lights I have.

Anyway, if you have anything more to add we can take this to PM, before we get reprimanded by a mod!

so can we be certain Surefire will release a single output model of this light?
What makes you ask that? I haven't been paying close attention, but to date I haven't seen any announcements regarding a single output model. It's possible in theory though - they could just give the head of the X300 Ultra crenellations and stick it on the body of the E2DLU here.
 
Not sure if Robin has a unit to review, maybe he'll see this and chime in...
Unfortunately, I can't fit any more reviews into my schedule at the moment. I've talked to SureFire about the E2DL Ultra, and it's basically just a brighter E2DL, so we will wait to review the EB2 instead.
 
I ran a test on the E2DL Ultra using the LFP (Lithium Phosphate) batteries that Surefire sells and got 31 minutes of regulated light followed by a sudden drop off of light at the 32 minute mark. There was a slight (~6%) drop in light output between initial start up and the 2 minute mark, but from that point on output was essentially flat varying only ~1% throughout the rest of the test until dropping completely out of regulation. This is nearly identical to how my Fury performed with the same batteries.

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Some E2DLU pics:

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UB3T on the left @ Stage 9 and E2DLU on the right (E2DLU has much more spill):
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UB3T on the left @ Stage 10 (Max) and E2DLU on the right:
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Outdoor beamshots added:

E2DLU:
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UB3T stage 9:
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UB3T stage 10 (max):
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What makes you ask that? I haven't been paying close attention, but to date I haven't seen any announcements regarding a single output model. It's possible in theory though - they could just give the head of the X300 Ultra crenellations and stick it on the body of the E2DLU here.

I'm only asking because I prefer single mode lights :)

just personal preference really. I have the Fury P2XD in single output and it's phenomenal and what I really love in my Surefires (high output, single mode!)
 
Some E2DLU pics:

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UB3T on the left @ Stage 9 and E2DLU on the right (E2DLU has much more spill):
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UB3T on the left @ Stage 10 (Max) and E2DLU on the right:
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I was under the impression that the E2DL Ultra was using an XM-L? From the pics above it is unclear if that is indeed the case. Does anyone know what LED is being used by this light??
 
Thank you very much, Grizzman!

That is exactly how the EB1 behaves with different tail-caps, and what I was hoping for. I would presume this means the head of the E2DL Ultra, like the EB1, is designed to recognise the difference between a tactical two stage tail-cap and a clicky tail-cap. Remove the crenellations and give it an EB1 body elongated for two cells... voila, the SureFire EB2! Then it's only a matter of putting a two stage tail or a clicky tail on it, to give it tactical (EB2T) or clicky (EB2C) functionality.

Those mourning the cancellation of the LX2 Ultra... rejoice! The LX2U lives, but in black (barring cancellation of the EB2)!

This is what I was hoping for as well. I was not sure if this light was designed with the same idea as the EB1 or if possibly it would work on an LX2 body. I think I will get one and lego it and just put up with the pointy things on the bezel. Maybe its my imagination but it seems like the strike bezel is less aggressive than the old E2DL. Perhaps its just the bezel is larger making the striker look smaller- IDK.
 
I couldnt resist and just place my order over at BatteryJunction.
I was hoping it was the XML emitter with a dedicated TIR for that XML.
In the past my Surefire L1 XML builds even while providing 900 plus real OTF lumens the lux was always low at 11~12K.....so, I figured this new TIR must be dedicated for the XML or XPG?
 
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