Coronavirus

[StarHalo]

Your second post directly contradicts your first. :shakehead

And your second post may be how it is where you are but it's not like that where I am. So it sounds like the failure is in YOUR state and not necessarily in general as you would imply. :shrug:

And I'm not even going to touch your last statement.

I was too vague in the first post; more specifically, if you are fortunate enough to know where you could get tested, but there has to be a referral system in place to triage you so they don't use too many tests, then there aren't enough tests available.

I see the argument being made that there are "probably" many more people who are ill who just aren't being tested - to then argue that testing is easy and plentiful is having it both ways. Either the metrics are there or they aren't, but most of us agree that the numbers are low.

But what do i know, im just a bigot.

I've never called anyone a bigot, still not sure where you're getting that. The ugliest word in the English language is uneducable, and I don't believe that applies to any living being (though given the thread's animosity, perhaps I am alone in this sentiment.)

 

[knucklegary]

BB, we just bought bok choy, bean sprouts, sweet pea pods, it's fast easy dish to stir up.. Plus fresh veggies are full of zinc to boost our immune systems (-;

 

[Greta]

Man, I wish my friend had left his chinese restaurant open for take out. He makes the best Lo Mein. ....

Fortunately our favorite Chinese restaurant is still open for pickup and delivery. They have THE best General Tso Chicken! Hmmm :thinking: .. might have to have Honey do a pickup on his way home from work today. Now I'm hungry.

 

[bigburly912]

I already know you don't value different, it's not about you.

hmmmm.

bigot

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NOUN

• a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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[StarHalo]

hmmmm.

And promptly thereafter I pointed out that it’s two different approaches to an issue, and that both are required and neither are bad. You prefer homogeneity, what’s the problem with that?

 

[bigburly912]

How do you get that? How do you know me well enough to know what I prefer. I will once again stand by my statement that I don’t appreciate being called a bigot. You know nothing of me or my life. All you know about me is that I don’t like news outlets.

 

[scout24]

You know what? This would be funny if there was a more even spread of people on both sides if an issue, or we were willing to stay on one topic, provide credentials or sources, and be willing to hash out a single point or issue without the constant deflection that you use to try to steer the discussion away from having to provide said sources. This continued tactic is just sad.And my words about pilot and plane is a common saying, you completely understand the point, and won't even admit to it. Deflect yet again.

 

[coffeecup66]

Ask and yee shall receive...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

The numbers for France on that chart are total baloney (as shown in a link given about 15 lines higher up on that page !) :

- https://dashboard.covid19.data.gouv.fr/ (official governmental page)

Also published on another official site

The official number of cases for France ("cas confirmés") is 109 252 cases, as of 14:00 h on April 17th 2020.
Not 147 969 cases as stated in the chart.

 

[scout24]

I thought there was no testing??? :thinking:

 

[StarHalo]

How do you get that? How do you know me well enough to know what I prefer. I will once again stand by my statement that I don’t appreciate being called a bigot. You know nothing of me or my life. All you know about me is that I don’t like news outlets.

You made the executive decision to intervene with a political comment. I could have ignored or complained, but instead I merely responded. You didn't like the responses. That's a bummer. No one is forcing anyone to be here, and if anger fixed anything, everything would have been fixed by now. What would be helpful, and not against the rules, would be to focus on the topic of the thread. Don't worry about me, worry about Coronavirus.

 

[scout24]

You're just saying that Americans are more spread out so therefore by equally spreading the numbers out, it doesn't look so bad. I'd bring up the history of those movements that minimized death tolls, but if you're unable to recall the termination of the National Security Council Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense in 2018, then it would only confuse the situation. And you're going to say that it was "streamlined", then fail to explain why supplies that were available in the last pandemic were not available in this one, then say the states had plenty of supplies, etc. It's just the same numbers and charts the whole world sees, smoothing them over is opinion.

"Pilot" implies leadership. You can feel any way you want about someone who merely stands aside, it makes no difference to the situation at hand.

If you want to use per capita numbers for other countries to attempt to smear the response by our country to the virus, you have to be willing to use everyone's per capita numbers. You don't get to change the metric to suit your agenda.

 

[StarHalo]

attempt to smear the response by our country to the virus

There was no national response.

 

[bigburly912]

You made the executive decision to intervene with a political comment. I could have ignored or complained, but instead I merely responded. You didn't like the responses. That's a bummer. No one is forcing anyone to be here, and if anger fixed anything, everything would have been fixed by now. What would be helpful, and not against the rules, would be to focus on the topic of the thread. Don't worry about me, worry about Coronavirus.

What about “you got those numbers from cnn”, is political. You are the only one that got angry friend; you can’t stand it and are trying to push an agenda. And also, how do you claim to know my political affiliations? Once again, just because I don’t like big news doesn’t mean anything. You are very very flawed in your thinking.

 

[bigburly912]

#Rona

 

[SCEMan]

There was no national response.

Tag, you're it!
:popcorn:

 

[knucklegary]

BB, and here I've been eyeballing my old Yellow pages book!

 

[bykfixer]

My governor is far from a conservative and he praised the national leadership. Today.
He is going to relax things by region as soon as the numbers fall consistantly. Today we went back up after several days of dropping.

 

[scout24]

There was no national response.

Health and Human Services Sec. Azar declared a public health emergency on 31 Jan, and started travel restrictions to and from China on 2 Feb. (Factcheck.org) Both steps were widely panned at the time, with words like "xenophobic" tossed around by a preponderance of media. In hindsight, these actions were the beginning of a far larger coordinated response by CDC, NIH, and HHS despite ridicule from the WHO. Which country was it you implying had "No national response"?

 

[KITROBASKIN]

Hey BVH,
Thanks for the link. At worldometer.com/info , one can compare some death numbers for today. It is descriptive to see the numbers continue to go up while looking at the data.

And for some of us here the numbers are grist for the mill, behind this keyboard they are possible indicators.

Deaths 'today' for Coronavirus 7,767,
,for suicide- 1782,
,by cancer- 13659,
,flu- 810,
,hunger- 18,628,
,overall deaths- 98,000 and counting,
, births- 233,000 and counting,

 

[ven]

My governor is far from a conservative and he praised the national leadership. Today.
He is going to relax things by region as soon as the numbers fall consistantly. Today we went back up after several days of dropping.

This does worry me, the talk of relaxing, or getting more back to normal. In the uK we are being told to expect waves, the vaccine might not be available to everyone till spring 2021. In the next 12 months professors, scientists are telling us potentially 6 waves of covid19 could hit us . Also highlighting we did not react quick enough (no *beep* Sherlock) . To avoid another spike, we need to adopt community testing like south korea.

I can not see anything normal this year, certain things may get relaxed, but i am pretty sure they wont be for long.

Stay safe.