NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! MORE Photos!!

[StuGatz]

Several of the new NovaTac EDC 120Ts and 120P arrived today and I am (so far) pleasantly surprised.

Great FAST shipping from John at Lighthound by the way. Many LARGE THANKS John...

It comes in a nicely padded box with instructions. The light comes with a clip that has a ring to go around the body seam where the battery is replaced. It also comes with a spare O-ring.

The T series has a (larger that I expected) rubber like button that feels as if it is a cover for a button underneath.

The finish is a gray (slightly greenish) color and the separate sections of the body do not appear to be matched exactly but that is not such an important issue to me personally…

The lights come with a crenulated bezel (greatly appreciated) but I would like slightly larger raised sections on a personal level.

I have not had a chance to attach the clip and I'm not sure that I will like it in that it does not seem as if it will remain stationary and might spin around on the flashlight body.

The 120T activates immediately when the button is pressed and goes off when released as long as the button is depressed constantly. If the button is pressed and released, the light remains on. When left in the on condition, if the button is then pressed a second time and held… the strobe is activated until the button is released then the light stays on until the button is pressed again.

I have not had a chance to compare these to my HDS EDC U60GT or U60XRGT but time will tell…

I'll add more to this as I figure this new light out and do some comparisons…

If anyone else has received their lights, please feel free to make your comments or suggestions known.

Some quick photos of the the 120T

Coming out of the box...

Side view of the button size. Much larger than the HDS U60 series...

I like the included bezel. Nice touch from the factory but I will prefer something a bit larger.

Best regards,

Stuart

 

[Art Vandelay]

Re: NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! Photos!!

Great pictures. Thanks for posting.

Does anybody have photos of, or a link to a Novatac in the Rogers grip?

 

[Russianesq]

Re: NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! Photos!!

wow, where is the UPS delivery

looks so gooooooooood
:twothumbs:sick2::twothumbs:sick2::twothumbs:sick2::twothumbs:twothumbs:twothumbs:twothumbs

 

[StuGatz]

Re: NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! Photos!!

Does anybody have photos of, or a link to a Novatac in the Rogers grip?

Here you go...

From the enclosed reference card

Best regards,

Stuart

 

[DM51]

Re: NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! Photos!!

Very good pics, very helpful info - many thanks.

 

[whc]

Re: NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! Photos!!

Nice, nut jealous at all ...

Some more pics of the 120P?...

 

[Grox]

Re: NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! Photos!!

Hi Stuart!

Does the 120P activate instantly when you press the button, like the 120T? Or do you have to force simple momentary or some other mode to make that work? If you force simple momentary is there then a lag between depressing the button and the light activating?

Waiting around for the interface was one of my main gripes with the HDS EDC series.

 

[eltel999]

Re: NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! Photos!!

Hi Stuart,

Superb pictures :thumbsup:

Do either of your lights have a purple tint to the beam? I've heard it talked about on a 120 lumen pre-production model and wondered if any thing has changed?

Cheers,

Terry

 

[sledhead]

Re: NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! Photos!!

Great post! 1st time I've seen the packaging and actual clip. Looks like the wait might actually be worth it! A picture of the 120P doing a tailstand would be appreciated.

 

[StuGatz]

Re: NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! Photos!!

I finally figured out how to attach the clip. I understand that the clip can (or has been) attached on the bezel end but I could not unscrew the bezel just now.

I have to say that on a personal level I do not like this one any more than the original that came with the HDS lights. I think that the tip of the clip will unexpectedly catch on things if the tip is exposed (in my case I can guarantee it) and I do not like that the clip ring will rotate around the body of the light. There is also the ever so slightly sharp edge of the ring that protrudes from the body of the light. Some people may like it as an index mark or for retention but the "feel" is just not correct for me just now. I may change my (admittedly personal) opinion sometime later but for the time being, must say that I do not like it very much.

Best regards,

Stuart

 

[StuGatz]

Re: NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! Photos!!

OK it was a long night with paperwork but I was recently able to take a look at the 120P. Please note that the following descriptions are based upon my humble (non-techie) observations. The comparisons to original HDS EDC flashlights are in reference to one of my own U60XRGT/GT and so the comparisons are strictly subjective in that regard although I always strive to make objective observations.

The one that I have available did not come with the large O-ring that was included with the 120T because the O-ring is apparently for the firearm grip. However, it did have a clip.

The 120P appears identical to the 120T (see above) other than the button. On a personal level I will probably use the 120T much more than the 120P.

The 120P has a button identical in appearance (and apparent function) as my EDC U60XRGT and U60GT and it completely "tail-stands" with no "wobble" and it would appear that (on a level and clean) surface, the rubber button will not touch said surface.

There is no temporary (or "tactical" as many like to call it) press to the "on" function with this 120P. It comes "on" to a low setting when the button is pressed similar as the original EDC. A second press of the button will bring the light level up to what appears to be the brightest level (it matched the brightest light level of one of the 120Ts) but will return to the lower level when the button is released.

After the light is on at the original level and when the button is pressed more that once the light level drops to a lower level than the initial level and the more presses that are performed, the lower the light level goes. Two rapid presses return the light level to the original mid-brightness. There appear to be a total of four brightness levels that are easy (for this non-techie guy) to figure out and remember how to use. In the use of this light I have noticed that the light level will return tom the mid-level with two rapid presses of the button. The light level seems to have a memory based upon the last level used. In other words when the light is turned off from the lowest light level it will return to the same light level when the button is pressed to the on position the next time.

Comparison of the 120P (on the left) & 120T (on the right) buttons.

The 120P in "tail-stand" position.

Best regards,

Stuart

 

[Oddjob]

Re: NovaTac 120T & 120P arrived!! Photos!!

Thanks for the pics and info Stuart. I'm in Canada and will probably have to wait until next week. :sigh:

 

[StuGatz]

I have not noticed any purple or off tint on either of the new lights that I have handled. The light cast from both devices appear identical.

Stuart

 

[cave dave]

Got my 120 P today the tint is fantastic. Not purple at all. More impressions later.

 

[Pumaman]

Stugatz,

Programming appears to be very nice. Huge improvement over the B-series of lights. My bezels will interchange with the HDS it appears. Another pleasant surprise, the beam and intensity appears the same as my 2 VO bin seoul-modded Mclux PDs. If they have the same runtime, that will be another plus.

Are there points of anodizing missing from the body of either of yours? My 120p has many shiny points of missing ano on the body, but not on the tail or battery section. Not a big problem, just dissapointing in a light of this price.

The clip is pretty poor, but not useless. I think that the free rotation of it will end up with lights with clip ring marks in the anodizing.

Overall a very nice light, lets hope a new clip shows up.

I put up some pics and a beamshot comparison:
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/171623

 

[cave dave]

Gripe #1: I think the Novatac is harder program if you want a specific light level. In the HDS you click once to advance and 2 to retreat then hold to set. With the Novatac you have to hold the button down and count the flickers as they quickly go by and release just at the right time.

I was trying to get 42 lumens but have no idea if I got 30 or 60 instead.

Gripe #2: Spring falls out when you replace battery.

Gripe #3: Had to do a battery detect reset to set for LiIon. (There are some major advantages to this though. And I will only have to do it once)

Gripe #4: Could not get bezel off with mousepad trick.

Gripe #5: Emitter a tad off center. Doesn't seem to affect beam.

 

[GJW]

The annodizing on mine is pretty well-matched with no obvious flaws.
The tint is very warm with no purple. If anything, there's a tad too much yellow for my liking -- very much like an incandescent.
And the body threading matches the HDS lights.
My U60 head works with the 120P tail and my 120P head works with my U60 tail.
With the new bezel nut, the 120P is about 1/8" shorter than my U60 with a titanium bezel nut.
And the disorienting strobe is a bit faster than the Gladius.
Overall I'm pretty darn pleased.

 

[BytorJr]

You can reprogram your "P" series to basically start in the last mode. Option "4" if I remember right off the top of my head. Personally, I have Options 4 & 7 enabled. You can also reprogram one level to be the disorienting strobe if you so choose.

Hope this helps.

Cave Dave..I totally agree that it's FASTER to reprogram, just not to a specific level. You have to go on "feel" I guess.

 

[kelmo]

I got a 85P today. My anodizing was less than perfect. There is a blotch on the endcap where it appears the anodizing didn't fully take place (a birth mark?!) and there is a bare spot on the main body. My emitter is slightly off center. OK enough of the nit picky stuff.

The beam is absolutely gorgeous! The tint rivals my B42 XRGT. It puts out a nice wide cone of light. I was able to reprogram it the way I wanted in about 10 minutes. This sucker is bright. My 1st impression is a great one. This is an instant favorite. I set the disorienting strobe to activate in place of max output and programmed max output in place of the factory minimun setting. So for me its on-10 lumens, double click - 30 lumens, triple click - 85 lumens, momentary - disorienting strobe. And I locked the tailcap switch. The ease of returning to factory default settings really helps if you screw up the programming process.

I'm glad I pre-ordered.

kelmo

 

[StuGatz]

Well now… I have stumbled upon another issue. It would seem that the 2X 123 battery tube and the 18650 battery tube for the original HDS EDC series will fit the new NovaTac EDC like a glove!!!

The 120T worked like a charm and all modes worked just like it did with the factory battery tube.

I find more and more things to like about this new light every time I work with it.

HDS EDC with the 2X123 & 18650 battery tubes

Extended battery tube on the NovaTac light. Fits and functions perfectly

Best regards,

Stuart