!!POST YOUR SUREFIRE COLLECTION!! II

DaFABRICATA

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Updated pic...

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Justin Case

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It has long been the case that the heat and blast from the muzzle will put deposits on the bezel of the MP5 WeaponLight (and some handgun WeaponLights too). Prolonged exposure to heavy use may result in some permanent pitting or related wear and tear with the anodisation and possibly even some wearing away of the aluminium too. The Lexan window can also become worn. The advantage of the classic Z32 is that the Lexan window can be replaced by the user should it become damaged.

The benefit of having the light parallel to, and so close to the longitudinal axis of the barrel is that in CQB the rounds hit where the light beam shines. This is important for those wearing 'gas masks' and working in tight, dust/smoke/blast etc filled rooms. There's also reduced chance of the bezel catching on things such as slings, clothing and whatnot.
Another benefit in these operations is that with multiple operators it is possible to get an idea of which targets are being covered [and which parts of the room or which people aren't]

Al

My old Classic 3V weaponlight bezel surface for a Glock 19 suffered from a lot of blast damage. The knurling was basically worn off. However, the Lexan window was never damaged, just frequently coated with a layer of particles that cut the light transmission. It was easily wiped off.

I don't really see why 1" or 2" would matter in terms of hitting the target. The beam pattern is sufficiently wide that it's hard to believe that such a small offset matters. Anyway, you aim using your sights. If you were using a laser aiming device, then as close to coaxial mounting would matter a lot more. If you have a mask, you ought to have a red dot sight, which is vastly easier to use than irons. IMO, a dot sight is far more valuable than a small offset of the light. Also, in room entries, each operator has an assigned sector to clear. He's not focusing on someone else's beam of light. If he is, he's not paying attention to his sector, risking his and his teammates lives. The deal is that each operator has to trust that his teammates are doing their job.

If the offset were so critical, then I'm surprised that SureFire designed the M500, M900, shotgun foreends, and universal weaponlights the way they have -- with a larger offset than for the MP5. Here is an M900A on a suppressed Colt SMG.

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Here's the old universal weaponlight for an AR-15/M16.

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Another downside of such a small offset is that you can't fit a suppressor.

I've used the offset adapter for my MP5 and it works fine in CQB (I removed the suppressor and put it on the Colt for this series of photos). IMO, it is also important to have a constant-on capability for two-handed weapons. If I have to carry something or someone with my offside arm, I can't operate the fore-end light very easily.

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Some new additions..

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Flat front KT4
A2 with four flats
6P
G2
E1L Outdoorsman
E2e
E-C adapters
SC3
KL3-HA-WH
KL3-BL-WH
KL5
 

jamie.91

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i am currently looking for my first surefire ligt and was considering a 6p but on one of the posts i have seen a 3p but cannot find them on surefires website? any info would greatly be appreciated as i would love a 3p as my first surefire

jamie
 

Tempest UK

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i am currently looking for my first surefire ligt and was considering a 6p but on one of the posts i have seen a 3p but cannot find them on surefires website? any info would greatly be appreciated as i would love a 3p as my first surefire

jamie

The 3P is a long discontinued model. It was replaced by the E1, which was replaced by the E1e.

Keep an eye on the Marketplace - they pop up for sale quite a lot.

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Tempest
 

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Pontiaker,This is not a sales thread. Please edit your post.

No problem, I didnt mean it to be a for slae thread, hence the part about me making a for sale thread for them later. i thought the collectors would like a pic of these before i sold them in the proper forum....
 

jtivat

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Well you own as many 6C's and I have seen out in circulation!!!! I think I have only seen two in the original plastic box's and only one with the plastic lamp and 2/3 A cells!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

MorpheusT1

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Some new editions on mine,


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Top shelve.

Left to right.

Surefire 12ZM
Surefire Z2
Surefire Kroma Milspec PK
Surefire PKEF 5K Blue and Red
Surefire C2 Camo
Surefire E2E Camo
Surefire L2 Porcupine
Surefire L1 Porcupine (Custom) Bezel from Download Rethreaded by GanP and assemled by DarkZero

Surefire M2 with Turbo head and 3x CREE XR-E (3 Levels)
Surefire M6 (Early version Serial A000713) Turbo Tower Seoul P4-U2
Surefire M6 w RPM bezel
Surefire C2 with KT1 and RPM bezel & Turbo tower Seoul P4-U2
Surefire M3
Surefire C2 (Custom SS bezel) and SW02
Surefire U2 Porcupine


Will list the others aswell,but not today ;)
 
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Wow awesome display...which Inova inforce did you get?
 

Mdinana

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What? No SF's in Realtree camo? I could have gotten you a deal a few weeks back for them!
 

MorpheusT1

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Wow awesome display...which Inova inforce did you get?

Thanks

I got the Inforce Color.
And i must say i am impressed,the quality is beyond perfect and the modes and output is very good.


Benny
 
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