Fenix TK40 part 2
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Re: Fenix TK40 part2
It's not silly, you silly. :nana:
4Sevens just announced the FIRST BATCH has arrived over at MP.
that's pretty silly. it's still a pre-order light. i agree that you probably wouldn't be able to tell a whole lot of difference. the higher lumens get, the less of a difference there seems to be from one lumen to the next; that's why i wasn't really concerned when they changed the lumens from 700 to 630 as listed on 4sevens. still, i won't deny i'd rather have 730 lumens for the same money.
...those weirdos!
It's not silly, you silly. :nana:
4Sevens just announced the FIRST BATCH has arrived over at MP.
BabyDoc
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Re: Fenix TK40 part2
Fenix came out with the TK10 only a few months after they came out with the TK1. There was a major improvement with the TK10 over the TK1. However, with the 2nd edition, I doubt anyone is going to see a difference between 630 and 730 lumens, do you? Furthermore, for the negligible increase in brightness is there going to be a cost in runtime?
Fenix came out with the TK10 only a few months after they came out with the TK1. There was a major improvement with the TK10 over the TK1. However, with the 2nd edition, I doubt anyone is going to see a difference between 630 and 730 lumens, do you? Furthermore, for the negligible increase in brightness is there going to be a cost in runtime?
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Marko
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I try to solve this one; I just visited this same Finnish Fenix dealer website day or two ago, and if I remember correctly, the only thing on the page about this new edition is the "upgrated MC-E model with 730 lm". Smart Memory was at earlier versio too, it just remembers the last setting when switched off. Generally the whole page is just translated from english sites.
Google translates it to english: http://tinyurl.com/d9uffv
I try to solve this one; I just visited this same Finnish Fenix dealer website day or two ago, and if I remember correctly, the only thing on the page about this new edition is the "upgrated MC-E model with 730 lm". Smart Memory was at earlier versio too, it just remembers the last setting when switched off. Generally the whole page is just translated from english sites.
Google translates it to english: http://tinyurl.com/d9uffv
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Mike89
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Personally, I do. That's about a 16% increase. I'll take all I can get. It just feels kind of "slighty" to me (if this is true). It would have been one thing if this 2nd edition was coming out 6 months later or something. One month later is another thing (again, if this is all true).
I'm curious to get more information about this. Wondering if it's indeed a real 2nd edition light or if the seller is just modding it. The Fenix website makes no mention of a 2nd edition light.
Personally, I do. That's about a 16% increase. I'll take all I can get. It just feels kind of "slighty" to me (if this is true). It would have been one thing if this 2nd edition was coming out 6 months later or something. One month later is another thing (again, if this is all true).
I'm curious to get more information about this. Wondering if it's indeed a real 2nd edition light or if the seller is just modding it. The Fenix website makes no mention of a 2nd edition light.
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Using google translate, this is what the Finnish website stated:
Fenix TK40 MC-E 2nd EDITION €149.95
"The world's brightest AA-size lamp! MC-E updated model is now staggering 730 lm lamp power! The light power is produced in high-modern digitally controlled Cree MC-E four core LED! Power of the lamp is even brighter than the 10W HID lamp! - This is how it corresponds to characteristics of a car headlight bulb for the power! Of lamp suitable for exploration tasks demanding professional and amateur users."
Using google translate, this is what the Finnish website stated:
Fenix TK40 MC-E 2nd EDITION €149.95
"The world's brightest AA-size lamp! MC-E updated model is now staggering 730 lm lamp power! The light power is produced in high-modern digitally controlled Cree MC-E four core LED! Power of the lamp is even brighter than the 10W HID lamp! - This is how it corresponds to characteristics of a car headlight bulb for the power! Of lamp suitable for exploration tasks demanding professional and amateur users."
Jackal-Head
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Actually, this is more likely to cause problems with non-rechargeable batteries because they aren't supposed to be subjected to reverse currents. With NiMHs, all that should happen is the stronger set (of four batteries in series) will charge the weaker set until the voltages are equal. So the voltage and capacity of the batteries in the stronger set will decrease somewhat, and the voltage and capacity of the batteries in the weaker set will or may increase somewhat. Modern NiMH cells also tolerate overcharging at a low rate well, so I wouldn't be concerned about that. Actually, this voltage balancing may be a good thing because it reduces the risk that an individual cell is deep discharged, which is the most common cause of permanent damage in NiMH batteries.
I am assuming, however, that all batteries are of the same brand, type and nominal capacity, and are all about fully charged when first inserted. In particular, if some batteries in one set are nearly empty while others are full, this may cause a significant amount of overcharging. Also, a noteworthy amount of energy will be lost in the batteries from the other set. Moreover, using damaged (e.g. internally shortcircuited) batteries or batteries with polarity reversed could damage good batteries or even the flashlight, so don't do that. Of course, the latter is true regardless of battery chemistry.
Actually, this is more likely to cause problems with non-rechargeable batteries because they aren't supposed to be subjected to reverse currents. With NiMHs, all that should happen is the stronger set (of four batteries in series) will charge the weaker set until the voltages are equal. So the voltage and capacity of the batteries in the stronger set will decrease somewhat, and the voltage and capacity of the batteries in the weaker set will or may increase somewhat. Modern NiMH cells also tolerate overcharging at a low rate well, so I wouldn't be concerned about that. Actually, this voltage balancing may be a good thing because it reduces the risk that an individual cell is deep discharged, which is the most common cause of permanent damage in NiMH batteries.
I am assuming, however, that all batteries are of the same brand, type and nominal capacity, and are all about fully charged when first inserted. In particular, if some batteries in one set are nearly empty while others are full, this may cause a significant amount of overcharging. Also, a noteworthy amount of energy will be lost in the batteries from the other set. Moreover, using damaged (e.g. internally shortcircuited) batteries or batteries with polarity reversed could damage good batteries or even the flashlight, so don't do that. Of course, the latter is true regardless of battery chemistry.
f22shift
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its a better led so brighter at the same runtime.
if they increase the price(even artificially if led cost is the same.) im sure ppl would be happy.
or cancel, wait on rumor, hope they charge the same.
its a better led so brighter at the same runtime.
if they increase the price(even artificially if led cost is the same.) im sure ppl would be happy.
or cancel, wait on rumor, hope they charge the same.
Re: Fenix TK40 part2
I just want to add to the confusion on the 630 versus 730. I just received my TK40 today and along with it I got a Fenix brochure. The page where the TK40 is dislpayed says 630 while in the small print on the same page they say 730 Lumens.
I just want to add to the confusion on the 630 versus 730. I just received my TK40 today and along with it I got a Fenix brochure. The page where the TK40 is dislpayed says 630 while in the small print on the same page they say 730 Lumens.
BabyDoc
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I wonder if there will be any obvious physical differences or markings that would let you know you were getting a second edition light. I can't imagine how the second edition TK40 could have a forward clicky, as 276 suggests, and still maintain a choice of different strobe and light levels. If it does, that will make it easy to tell the new edition from the "old".
I wonder if there will be any obvious physical differences or markings that would let you know you were getting a second edition light. I can't imagine how the second edition TK40 could have a forward clicky, as 276 suggests, and still maintain a choice of different strobe and light levels. If it does, that will make it easy to tell the new edition from the "old".
Mike89
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Mike89
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Glock27
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Looks like Mike89 sold his case to pay for the TK40.:devil:
Looks like Mike89 sold his case to pay for the TK40.:devil:
Cartman
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My case came cracked but who cares?
With a fresh set of Eneloop (sanyo+sony) it's pretty bright but hard to tell in the day light.
I think the "holster" is pretty useless. I would rather cook up a Surefire-like paracord lanyard for it.
Construction is good but doesn't give you the feeling that's it's a super expensive light. At $150 for a long-running 600+ lumens, it really isn't that expensive. It's not Surefire pricey nor DX-like in quality (don't take that as an offense. I've purchased a lot of low-end DX lights and in orders where I buy 10 lights, maybe 1 is bad.) The weight is nice though. It feels like a real flash light when it's charged up with 8-cells.
UI: I am a little disappointed in the UI. I was hoping for a head turn to access the strobe modes. Instead, it's all run from the thumb button. I thought you could choose the strobe function from any mode, but you don't. Each of the four strobe modes are tied to the four fixed levels. So strobe is only with turbo, fast blink is tied to high, etc.
Long-term concerns: I'm a bit concerned about the thumb button. It doesn't feel that solid and the fact that you have to use it to access so many of the modes makes me hope they put enough engineering into it for the number of pushes that it's going to take. I say that even though I've never had a button failure on any of my other Fenix lights so maybe it's just being overly worrisome.
Overall, I'm pleased but I won't know until I can get home and compare it to the M6 at night and in an area where I can really push the throw. I will have to do it in a way as not to alert the wife though. She's pretty oblivious to the flashlights but the TK40's bulk could alert her.
My case came cracked but who cares?
With a fresh set of Eneloop (sanyo+sony) it's pretty bright but hard to tell in the day light.
I think the "holster" is pretty useless. I would rather cook up a Surefire-like paracord lanyard for it.
Construction is good but doesn't give you the feeling that's it's a super expensive light. At $150 for a long-running 600+ lumens, it really isn't that expensive. It's not Surefire pricey nor DX-like in quality (don't take that as an offense. I've purchased a lot of low-end DX lights and in orders where I buy 10 lights, maybe 1 is bad.) The weight is nice though. It feels like a real flash light when it's charged up with 8-cells.
UI: I am a little disappointed in the UI. I was hoping for a head turn to access the strobe modes. Instead, it's all run from the thumb button. I thought you could choose the strobe function from any mode, but you don't. Each of the four strobe modes are tied to the four fixed levels. So strobe is only with turbo, fast blink is tied to high, etc.
Long-term concerns: I'm a bit concerned about the thumb button. It doesn't feel that solid and the fact that you have to use it to access so many of the modes makes me hope they put enough engineering into it for the number of pushes that it's going to take. I say that even though I've never had a button failure on any of my other Fenix lights so maybe it's just being overly worrisome.
Overall, I'm pleased but I won't know until I can get home and compare it to the M6 at night and in an area where I can really push the throw. I will have to do it in a way as not to alert the wife though. She's pretty oblivious to the flashlights but the TK40's bulk could alert her.
Mike89
Enlightened
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I had to sell something!
I couldn't resist taking that pic. This special flashlight belongs next to my baby. It's in good company. With all the money I spend on my computer, I figured what the hell, I'd rather looks at the parts than the case! At least now I can see my investment!
Just got mine today. The light's got a nice feel to it and I think it looks pretty damn cool. Can't wait to try it out this evening. As far as a previous comment about rather having the twist head to go into second mode. I personally like not having the twist head. I didn't really like messing with twisting the front of the light. The modes are pretty cool and the remember last function is great (first light I've had with that feature).
I had to sell something!
I couldn't resist taking that pic. This special flashlight belongs next to my baby. It's in good company. With all the money I spend on my computer, I figured what the hell, I'd rather looks at the parts than the case! At least now I can see my investment!
Just got mine today. The light's got a nice feel to it and I think it looks pretty damn cool. Can't wait to try it out this evening. As far as a previous comment about rather having the twist head to go into second mode. I personally like not having the twist head. I didn't really like messing with twisting the front of the light. The modes are pretty cool and the remember last function is great (first light I've had with that feature).
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jzmtl
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It looks huge in hand! May be too big to carry for either EDC or outdoor trip.
It looks huge in hand! May be too big to carry for either EDC or outdoor trip.
brightnorm
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Total weight with 8x Eneloops is 16.4 oz. Haven't ordered one yet so no opinion on balance.
Brightnorm.
Total weight with 8x Eneloops is 16.4 oz. Haven't ordered one yet so no opinion on balance.
Brightnorm.
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