P60 sized led drop-ins (part 3)

[Kokopelli]

How do SolarForce led dropins do in Solarforce bodies in terms of shock resistance? I've read some dropins can't bear the recoil of a shotgun. I have many p60 sized dropins from various sources. All including Solarforce and Lumens Factory dropins have the similar sized reflector screwed on a brass pill and have a bigger and a central spring. So, what differentiates them looks like just how efficient their drivers are, how reliable the electronics are and how well they are soldered on the pill.

 

[flashlight nut]

Hey guys, I have a couple of P60 drop-in questions. I have a Thrunite XM-L 460 lm. single mode drop-in for my Surefire 6P. I read somewhere on this forum about cutting off a coil on the outer spring so the head screws down all the way. Before I do this, is there a specific way of doing this to maintain proper contact or just snip off the last coil? Also, I got the same drop-in for my buddy who wanted to upgrade his Surefire G2 Nitrolon. I had to make several attempts of screwing on the head and tailcap before the proper contact was made. I assume this was due to the polymer body. What was I doing wrong? Thanks.

 

[Blitzwing]

How do SolarForce led dropins do in Solarforce bodies in terms of shock resistance? I've read some dropins can't bear the recoil of a shotgun. I have many p60 sized dropins from various sources. All including Solarforce and Lumens Factory dropins have the similar sized reflector screwed on a brass pill and have a bigger and a central spring. So, what differentiates them looks like just how efficient their drivers are, how reliable the electronics are and how well they are soldered on the pill.

I have killed one Solarforce XP-G in an L2 that was mounted on the barrel of my double barrel 12g. I had it mounted on the rubber Dealextreme mount up near the muzzle. I now mount the light further down away from the muzzle and have had no further issues.

 

[misfit1981]

So I'm definitely a noob when it comes to flashlights...
I have a SureFire Z2 combat light with a malikov, with M91 engraved, drop in p60 led and SureFire brand click tailcap.
I like the light, but I don't like running through CR123's and am considering rechargeables.
Two part question: what are good rechargeable 123's and what is a better (brighter - good mix of flood and spot) drop in led?

often I get a flicker when the tailcap is clicked to the constant on position. what causes that - bulb or tailcap?

thanks!

 

[jwfrazier]

So, most of this info is pretty overwhelming to me. What is the best choice for a p60 or p61 model that will work for an older 2 cell G2 Nitrolon plastic light, and do most of you think it is worth it to upgrade? It seems most of the newer LED lights with 500-700 lumens might be a better choice, and maybe I should just throw the G2 in the trash?

 

[Kokopelli]

I'd never throw away my G2 Nitrolon. There are many led bulbs you can use with it and even more if you get a 17670 or 16650 battery for it.

 

[orbital]

I'd never throw away my G2 Nitrolon. There are many led bulbs you can use with it and even more if you get a 17670 or 16650 battery for it.

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..with the efficiency of xpe2 & xpg2, you can drive those emitters @ only 500mA and get lots for usable light >>>> w/ no meltdown

add: keep an eye on Malkoff w/ something like a M61L using an xpg2


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[orbital]

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EDCPlus and Illumination Supply

 

[WilsonCQB1911]

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EDCPlus and Illumination Supply

When will these be available again? I want one.

 

[orbital]

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Important to list custom drop-in builders of CPF:

_nailbender

_oveready

_vinhnguyen54

_VanIsleDSM

_macscustoms

...more to come..

 

[kzb]

Just a heads-up to fellow deprived UK residents: a lot of P60 drop ins have appeared on Amazon UK recently, and the prices seem reasonable also. (But be prepared for some searching, because they pop up in all different departments.)

There are coloured ones, including a 5-mode 90 lumen red drop-in, and also a single mode 150 lumen (claimed) red drop in.

Many of them sold by Lightscastle. Who they? Anyhow, given the low prices I have ordered some to see what happens.

 

[tam17]

Any drop-in suggestions for a Nextorch GT6A-R/RL nylon 18650 host?

Heatsinking is obviously the main issue. Preferably mass-produced, floody-ish and neutral if possible (not necessarily high-CRI). OEM LED drop-in for this host is 35lm Luxeon 1 (480min on 18650), so all improvements are welcome!

Cheers

 

[Tanner197]

Hello All,

Im a flashlight noob and I was hoping to get some much needed info from you fine gents. I recently purchased a Solarforce drop-in that boasts 820 lumens and has three modes (100% 60% and 10%). I got it for 14 bucks so I said what the hell as the original bulb in my 6P LED was going out. My first question is Solarforce a legitimate brand and will it work? The link to the bulb is as follows:

http://www.solarforceflashlight-sales.com/product_detail.php?id=289&s=40&t=RB

Then in a whirl wind of buying fury I purchased tenergy rechargable 123a batteries without reading the bold letters that say "will not work with Surefire Flashlights." However the drop-in bulb info says it can use rechargables. My final question is will the whole combo work or was this a learning experience for a noobie? The link for the batteries is as follows:

http://www.tenergy.com/RCR123A-3-0V-900mAh-LiIon-Rechargeable-Battery

Thank you for your help!

 

[scsmith]

Tanner,

Rechargeable CR123 batteries come off the charger at 3.6v-3.7v each vs. 3 volts each for primary CR123 batteries. Surefire's stock bulbs / LED replacements for 2 cell lights are rated for 6v max (2xCR123 x 3v = 6v). The Solarforce pill you linked will handle up to 8.4v, so it will handle the 7.2v-7.4v that a pair of RCR123 batteries (like the Tenergy batteries you ordered) will put out. At this point your Surefire 6P is just a host - a body tube, head, and tail cap/switch - to hold the Solarforce pill and the Tenergy RCR123 cells. You'll be fine.

 

[chaos215bar2]

When will these be available again? I want one.

They're available now.

 

[kzb]

Just a heads-up to fellow deprived UK residents: a lot of P60 drop ins have appeared on Amazon UK recently, and the prices seem reasonable also. (But be prepared for some searching, because they pop up in all different departments.)

There are coloured ones, including a 5-mode 90 lumen red drop-in, and also a single mode 150 lumen (claimed) red drop in.

Many of them sold by Lightscastle. Who they? Anyhow, given the low prices I have ordered some to see what happens.

I'll reply to my own post now I've received the items to let other UK people know.
First the good news: all three drop-ins I ordered arrived in good time and well before the Amazon-stated delivery date of 11 April. Direct from China.

All work, in that they light up. After this it gets more negative.
The 800+ lumen white P60, well that output is a wild exaggeration IMHO. I've no instrumentation to actually measure it, but I would put it nearer 200 lumen by comparison with other lights I own. For example, it is noticeably less bright than my 320 lumen Olight.
The 150 lumen red P60 is hardly brighter than the 90 lumen one, plus it seems more orange than red. (This one was not Lightscastle BTW).
The 5-mode red P60 only has one mode, and output identical to the red drop in I already own (90 lumen). Maybe someone can advise on this: do I need anything else to get the modes to work? It is in a Ultrafire 501.

 

[Joe88XJ]

Thanks Fizz for all the great information!! I am a newbie here looking for info on modding a luxeon LED streamlight tlr-2....anybody who can help would be much appreciated!

 

[tugsus]

My head hurts from info overload and I still can't find the answer.

What drop in will fit a G2L Nitrolon?

I would like to be around 200 lumens.

I tried one from Lighthound (LHCREESF) and I could not screw down the bezel.

Thanks in advance.

 

[JCD]

My head hurts from info overload and I still can't find the answer.

What drop in will fit a G2L Nitrolon?

I would like to be around 200 lumens.

I tried one from Lighthound (LHCREESF) and I could not screw down the bezel.

Thanks in advance.

Did you try removing the outer spring? Sometimes that allows the bezel to screw down completely. Sometimes it also prevents the drop-in from activating. In such cases, the outer spring can be trimmed, which will sometimes allow the spring to be used and the bezel to screw down most/all the way.

 

[jorn]

I'll reply to my own post now I've received the items to let other UK people know.
First the good news: all three drop-ins I ordered arrived in good time and well before the Amazon-stated delivery date of 11 April. Direct from China.

All work, in that they light up. After this it gets more negative.
The 800+ lumen white P60, well that output is a wild exaggeration IMHO. I've no instrumentation to actually measure it, but I would put it nearer 200 lumen by comparison with other lights I own. For example, it is noticeably less bright than my 320 lumen Olight.
The 150 lumen red P60 is hardly brighter than the 90 lumen one, plus it seems more orange than red. (This one was not Lightscastle BTW).
The 5-mode red P60 only has one mode, and output identical to the red drop in I already own (90 lumen). Maybe someone can advise on this: do I need anything else to get the modes to work? It is in a Ultrafire 501.

You are prob comparing lux numbers. A 300 lumen p60 will have a brighter hotspot than a 800 lumen. The smaller leds focus better in a small reflector, so the hotspot will be brighter (more lux), but will have less overall output (lumens).