Review: Manker E11 - AA/14500 XP-L

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Received mine yesterday, in NW.

The machining is good, head to tail. Tail threads had been lubed and were smooth out the box. Head threads had not been lubed, and were a bit rough as a result. Knurling is surprisingly adequate. It would be even better if the bezel had knurling as well.

Switch feel is positive, though it doesn't have a very substantial feel. Durability remains to be seen.

The head can't be unscrewed from the body like the reviewed sample, threadlocked perhaps.

The lens sits on a thick o-ring, which in turn sits on and around a groove on the top of the reflector. Very good compression seal for waterproofing and extra shock absorption to protect the lens from a drop. O-ring seals at bottom of bezel and tail are snug as well. Well done.

Emitter is slightly off-centered, but doesn't seem to affect the beam much. The reflector actually screws into the head, so it ends up positioning the centering ring, rather than the other way around. The hotspot is nice and wide, but the spill beam lacks uniformity. There's a noticeable darker band in the middle of it. Not too noticeable beyond 20 feet.

Supposed to be 3D tint, but not to my eyes. Seems a bit on the cool side in fact. Visually, CRI is a bit on the low side as well for a NW.

Inside the head: the long leads are not trimmed but coiled up in a flat S-bend. The solder job is nowhere near as clean as the reviewed sample. I'm quite positive that the leads will snap off from a drop, but for now, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

It is bright! I'm impressed by that.

If the solder job was better, I'd think the $30 is well worth it. As it is, I feel like it should be a $20 light retail.

On my regular Eneloop, less than a year old and with fewer than 20 cycles, max (400 lumens) was only 20% higher than high (200 lumens) by lux measurements. I'm not aware that Eneloop Pro can provide more power than the regular Eneloop.
 
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I am in the market for a small (about 3 inches long) AA light with a side switch. I had high hopes for this light. While it's over 3 inches long, it has some of the things I am looking for: side switch, floody beam, and a deep clip.

I hope Manker does not abandon this design. You have the right idea. It just needs better execution and marketing. Makes sure it appeals to a large market. Do like Klarus does with their Mi7.

Make a light with snazzy colors like red, blue, pink, vanilla, etc. Throw in Camo for the tacticool crowd too.

Sprinkle your ads with words like military grade, SEAL approved, SWAT designed, battle tested, etc. I bet the EDCF crowd would line up to buy one.

I forgot to add : jack the price up and have your dealer do a secret CPF discount.

Anyway, I can't wait for the next version of this light.
 
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On my regular Eneloop, less than a year old and with fewer than 20 cycles, max (400 lumens) was only 20% higher than high (200 lumens) by lux measurements. I'm not aware that Eneloop Pro can provide more power than the regular Eneloop.
I have tested on old duracell staycharged. I think I got them 6 years ago, so they should be the second or third last eneloop generation... at best.
Between them, and the Eneloop PRO my luxmeter saw big changes. I don't have regular eneloop to compare.
 

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Nice review. Thanks for sharing.

Personally, I'm disappointed that the low mode with 14500 is as high as it is. I'm considering this vs. the Klarus Mi7. I like the extra non-blinky mode in the Manker and the pocket clip, but I also like the battery check, electronic lockout and modes of the Klarus better, although I wish they had left out SOS in favor of another level. Also like that the non-high modes on the Klarus are consistent regardless of battery type.

Is there any visible PWM?

Are the head and tail threaded identically? I'm wondering if it's possible to reverse the body (and hence the clip), allowing for a head-up carry?

Mahalo!
 

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Check with seller to confirm whether head is removable as Budda's review sample. Mine is not removable. Maybe that's reason for the tail cap?

No visible PWM on any mode.

Beam shape is somewhat rectangular with really rounded corners and curved sides. Shape of the XPL perhaps?

NW tint leaves much to be desired. There's noticeable green in it at 2 lower levels, though not as bad as photos above. And again, CRI appears quite low for a NW.
 

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I'm guessing the MI7 does have a tail cap: body and tail not a single piece. They're just glued together. It would facilitate fabrication and assembly.
 

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I'm guessing the MI7 does have a tail cap: body and tail not a single piece. They're just glued together.

You're wrong.

Wrong guess.

You can check the Mi7 reviews and photos.
 

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You're wrong.

Wrong guess.

You can check the Mi7 reviews and photos.

Checked it.
Can't see either way.
If it's one piece, is the tail spring attached with adhesive or solder? There's little to no room down that monolithic body tube to work around.
 

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btw it is not uncommon to build a compact AA flashlight with head and body and no separate tail. most AAA flashlights are also built like that. the tail spring does not need attachment with adhesive or solder. you just press fit the base of the spring coil into the body.

i got the word from Mi7 owners. the body is just 1 piece. there is no tail or tail cap.

there you have it. now we're both happy. :nana:
 

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btw it is not uncommon to build a compact AA flashlight with head and body and no separate tail. most AAA flashlights are also built like that. the tail spring does not need attachment with adhesive or solder. you just press fit the base of the spring coil into the body.

i got the word from Mi7 owners. the body is just 1 piece. there is no tail or tail cap.

there you have it. now we're both happy. :nana:

I'm aware of the construction of AA and AAA lights.
Thanks for confirming.
The press fit spring is an elegant design.
 

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Is there any visible PWM?
Are the head and tail threaded identically? I'm wondering if it's possible to reverse the body (and hence the clip), allowing for a head-up carry?

No visible PWM
I removed the head and installed the tailcap on the head threads. I could not mount the head at the tailcap because the mounted clip blocks the head from twisting. My guess is that you could remove the clip and screw the head in place, and reinstall the clip each time you want to reverse the clip orientation.
 

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My guess is that you could
Why guess?

You could remove the clip and then tell us if the head and tail can be reversed on the body, without losing any electronic functionality, yes or no.

You simply test it. Then there is no more guessing.

:)
 

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Manker always asked me to test and compare the Mi7 to the E11. Last week I received and tested a Klarus Mi7. Here I compare the plots. Keep in mind that the Manker E11 was tested with a Efest 14500 IMR V2 700mAh V2 and the Klarus Mi7 with a Efest 14500 IMR 650mAh (the latest model from Efest). A difference of 50 mAh should translate around a 13% difference in runtime.

Mi7%20vs%20E11_zps9p977h0r.png
 

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I really like Manker I really do. But the mode layout and switching for me gives it the UI of a Rubiks Cube. This is one of those lights that would be far easier to use with a two stage switch like on the MH20
 

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I also suggested manker a double stage switch like the one of the MH20.
In their latest light they however still adopted a single stage switch but with rapid access to low, turbo and last used mode. This is fine for me.
 

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Yours is an excellent review, made especially valuable because of the many follow-up posts.

Thanks for all the hard work.
 
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