EDC - What's in Your Pocket(s)?? Third Edition

RUSH FAN

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"Kind of funny....In most of the Eastern Bloc States, anything quite frankly could get you unreasonable Law Enforcement attention.. Hell, I was stopped twice last year within residential parking by LE for walking from my car in the dark because the motion security light was out of service...I was using my spare Coast 220 lm light...When the Local K-9 p/o suddenly blocked my path with his paramilitary SUV ...It was around 9pm, and I was carrying groceries...The K9 P/O exclaimed, * That light was SUSPICIOUSLY BRIGHT, AND LOOKED TO MILITARY !!!* My answer, **Thank you Officer, I'm in NO NEED of police assistance...Have a good night...And kept walking.....*It was quite obvious that this was a poor attempt at harassing, and intimidating a citizen into a consensual stop in order to perform a *stop and frisk* ( an EDC danger....)I have some family ,and relatives who are in Law Enforcement, or who are Lawyers...As they always say, ***NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE***They are NOT your friends...This is just another example of such an incident with a benign EDC Item...Let alone a personal tool like pocket knife, or self defense tool like a defense spray, or such....Don't misunderstand, I support the US Constitution, and believe any type of LE interference in Lawful EDC violates the basic tenets of our Bill of Rights....Things need to return to proper checks and balance..."


You sure you weren't casing the parking lot looking for stuff to steal? What?? You're not a thief??

Of course, YOU know that, but maybe that officer didn't, and was doing his job by checking it out. I doubt he woke up that morning with a plan to roust people at random just to satisfy his sadistic streak. I really, really doubt it.

We have the responsibility of knowing what the consequences are for the things we EDC, including when and where we can have them, and even how we can use our stuff. Try taking a small swiss army knife into a courthouse or on a plane, for example.
 

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You sure you weren't casing the parking lot looking for stuff to steal? What?? You're not a thief??

Of course, YOU know that, but maybe that officer didn't, and was doing his job by checking it out. I doubt he woke up that morning with a plan to roust people at random just to satisfy his sadistic streak. I really, really doubt it.

We have the responsibility of knowing what the consequences are for the things we EDC, including when and where we can have them, and even how we can use our stuff. Try taking a small swiss army knife into a courthouse or on a plane, for example.
"Things have been going *overboard* since 9/11, & The Patriot Act...Years ago, No one would have believed the government would be spying on Americans...The veterans within my family would have said the same....They fought for our freedom, NOT to see it crumble...And there was a distinct sense of overzealous behavior in my incident....Just ask some of the folks who in the past years ran afoul of The NY safe act, or a young female African-American nurse in NJ, or NY'S Knife laws, or Massachusetts Anti-taser/Stun gun laws *(they just recently deregulated pepper spray, and mace. )*, etc ...But a flashlight ?!^...That's like saying a leather man's a set of burglary tools....It's going overboard.....Just saying....."
 
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I liked your story 'Groutboy' and i am in agreement with your assessment

Cops are NOT your friends. They are sneaky!!

I was was walking down the street in broad daylight. Coming back from buying some snacks from my local
dairy. This cop asked me, where I was coming from. After I told him. He proceeded to ask me another 3 times
' where was I coming from' and he was checking to see if any of my answers differed from what I already said.

And IF they did, that would give him probable cause to stop and search me.
 

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You sure you weren't casing the parking lot looking for stuff to steal? What?? You're not a thief??

Of course, YOU know that, but maybe that officer didn't, and was doing his job by checking it out. I doubt he woke up that morning with a plan to roust people at random just to satisfy his sadistic streak. I really, really doubt it.

We have the responsibility of knowing what the consequences are for the things we EDC, including when and where we can have them, and even how we can use our stuff. Try taking a small swiss army knife into a courthouse or on a plane, for example.
"Oh, Did I mention I was carrying groceries that were clearly marked as such....."
 

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"Things have been going *overboard* since 9/11, & The Patriot Act...Years ago, No one would have believed the government would be spying on Americans...The veterans within my family would have said the same....They fought for our freedom, NOT to see it crumble...And there was a distinct sense of overzealous behavior in my incident....Just ask some of the folks who in the past years ran afoul of The NY safe act, or a young female African-American nurse in NJ, or NY'S Knife laws, or Massachusetts Anti-taser/Stun gun laws *(they just recently deregulated pepper spray, and mace. )*, etc ...But a flashlight ?!^...That's like saying a leather man's a set of burglary tools....It's going overboard.....Just saying....."

Honestly, to some, it came as no surprise that the Government was spying on the citizens. About as surprising as seeing the Sun come up in the morning.
 

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"Oh, Did I mention I was carrying groceries that were clearly marked as such....."

Or, the contents of someone else's car or apartment in grocery bags... ;)

My point is cops can't read minds, and they have a duty to investigate what they suspect might be a crime. Your light isn't illegal, it probably got his attention because it was unusual.

Sorry for the thread drift, but I thought we could talk about USING our EDC items, not just showing them off like gear porn.

For example, I EDC a small pocket knife, but have gotten way too much negative attention if I take it out in an office setting to open a package or envelope. So now I am very careful about where and when I use this simple tool. A sad reality, for sure...

Fortunately, people don't seem to mind when I use the Arc AAA light.
 

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Or, the contents of someone else's car or apartment in grocery bags... ;)

My point is cops can't read minds, and they have a duty to investigate what they suspect might be a crime. Your light isn't illegal, it probably got his attention because it was unusual.

Sorry for the thread drift, but I thought we could talk about USING our EDC items, not just showing them off like gear porn.

For example, I EDC a small pocket knife, but have gotten way too much negative attention if I take it out in an office setting to open a package or envelope. So now I am very careful about where and when I use this simple tool. A sad reality, for sure...

Fortunately, people don't seem to mind when I use the Arc AAA light.
"Personally, you sound very anti-EDC...Maybe the thread could have been called *Everyone Don't Carry: keeping it light...leave it at home....*, or **Equipment Deemed Contraband : The Minority Report....."[emoji61]
 
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dss_777

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"Personally, you sound very anti-EDC...Maybe the thread could have been called *Everyone Don't Carry: keeping it light...leave it at home....*, or **Equipment Deemed Contraband : The Minority Report....."[emoji61]

Personally, you sound like someone without critical thinking skills. I Carry all sorts of stuff Every Day, including any number of tools appropriate for the job at hand, but more importantly situational awareness, common sense, and good judgement.

Rock on!
 

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Personally, you sound like someone without critical thinking skills. I Carry all sorts of stuff Every Day, including any number of tools appropriate for the job at hand, but more importantly situational awareness, common sense, and good judgement.

Rock on!
"I beg to differ.........[emoji87] [emoji86] [emoji85] ..."
 

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OK. Please stop the political comments re police. This thread is about
EDC - What's in Your Pocket(s)?? Third Edition.
Please continue in this vein.


Bill
 

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OK. Please stop the political comments re police. This thread is about
EDC - What's in Your Pocket(s)?? Third Edition.
Please continue in this vein.


Bill
"Absolutely, but unfortunately...With EDC items within this venue..Like some of the items displayed. ..Even those that seam benign ... Is Where Politics, LE and Every Day Carrying go hand in hand....It's just Not here, but out on the streets where you travel...Always be mindful..."
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As that old banking Comercial adage goes; "WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET!!!"
 

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This thread is not about political issues regarding "What's in your pocket". Start a thread in the Underground re political issues of any sorts. No more political concerns in this thread.

Bill
 
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