*new* Fenix LD60: max 2800 lumens
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This thing is rated at 2800 lumens, 460m/53000cd while the TK41 (XM-L2) is rated at 900 lumens, 510m/65050cd so not really.
easilyled
Flashaholic
I think the caveat is that for a triple-led, the throw is good. 2800 lumens lights up a much larger area, so if this can still throw almost as well as a single led light where the hot-spot is much smaller, then its quite impressive.
bladesmith3
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does anyone know the 10% discount code?
Richwouldnt
Enlightened
IMO any light that can throw almost half a kilometer by ANSI test is going to throw a lot further than 99% of buyers actually NEED. Think back 20 years and virtually no reasonably compact flashlight could reach out much distance at all. Throw in a "portable" light took large and heavy spotlights running high wattage automotive type bulbs and the throw was still a lot less than many hand held lights can do today.
ROFL I know right? How spoiled have we become that we have easily rechargeable lights barely bigger than a pop-can putting out nearly 3k lumens... THREE THOUSAND LUMENS... and we label them as not having much throw. This isn't a criticism of anyone as I know everything is meant in a relative way, but we have to keep everything in perspective. The "non-throwers" of today are doing nearly as well as some true thrower lights were doing 5 years ago.
Coincidentally this IS basically the reason I give to people who just think I'm weird for being so into LED flashlights and just LED stuff in general. What other techs have advanced as much as LED tech and especially LED flashlights have in the past few years. Literally it was impressive to find small 2 cr123 sized flashlights that could put out over 100 lumens in 2005 or so. Now suddenly we have lights that big putting out over 1000 lumens? WHAT?
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StriderSMF
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I know what do you want a light that melts face's off and 5000 yards ? YES
Richwouldnt
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Just as a comparison with early LED technology I have a 128 LED Shower head LED light that takes six D size batteries and puts out a couple of hundred Lumens. A HUGE light by modern standards with a pretty pathetic unfocused output light blob. I picked it up recently from a surplus site, brand new. At their price of under $10 + shipping I could not pass it up as an example of what used to be a high technology LED flashlight. Absolutely outrageous by current standards. Quite a club though if needed. No idea though of what it would have originally cost. Probably highly dependent on when made and no indication of that on the packaging.
For a second I thought you were talking about those literal shower head led color changing lights. I've always wanted to try one of those lol. That looks awesome to have colored rainbow water splashing over your face but I don't know how well they work in reality. Anyone ever use those?
Sorry I couldn't resist. Halloween is coming up. BTW that scene scarred me as little kid
StriderSMF
Newly Enlightened
^hahaha awesome^
I just looked at the beamshots for the various lumen outputs on the Fenix page. They look "uneven" on wallshots of the higher modes.
Since the light has three independent power sources and can operate without one or more of the chambers being filled with batteries does this mean there is no way to get power from one or two filled battery chambers evenly spread to all three emitters? AKA does that mean you will only get a full even 3-led light pattern using 3 18650's or other cells?
The idea of having basically lights like this that are in essence three flashlights strapped together gives the light a bit of extra safety and also flexibility, but does it take away anything else that a more traditional design that requires power from all the cell-spots at once offers?
I know in practice the beams will collate pretty well even with only two led's being powered (like the LD50), but I want to know how much difference it actually would make.
Since the light has three independent power sources and can operate without one or more of the chambers being filled with batteries does this mean there is no way to get power from one or two filled battery chambers evenly spread to all three emitters? AKA does that mean you will only get a full even 3-led light pattern using 3 18650's or other cells?
The idea of having basically lights like this that are in essence three flashlights strapped together gives the light a bit of extra safety and also flexibility, but does it take away anything else that a more traditional design that requires power from all the cell-spots at once offers?
I know in practice the beams will collate pretty well even with only two led's being powered (like the LD50), but I want to know how much difference it actually would make.
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Jagged77
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LD60 has just arrived along with an E41 plus various others. On initial inspection and the obligatory 'playing' with it inside the house, it seems to easily tick all the boxes for a professional use search light. (Mine will be used for Mountain Rescue). I intend to put it through it's paces this weekend all being well. If anyone wants any specific info I'll do my best to answer.
I just received my LD60 and everything look good except is has visible PWM in eco mode. I can see the flickering. In the other modes, except turbo, I can also see PWM if I move my hand quickly in front of the light. I am quite surprised Fenix uses PWM in this light. Did you notice the same or I am having problems with mine?
Correction: after checking the conection in the tail, I can't see the flickering by naked eye. However, I can see the PWM effect when I move my hand in front of the light and when I use a camera whose subject is illuminated by this light.
SimulatedZero
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That could potentially be a complication of using multiple circuits in a light. I know that was the issue with the dual switches in the Klarus lights.
It is something in between. Maybe a little more on the thrower side. The hotspot is about 5ft diameter at 30 ft distance. The specs say 53,000 cd, which is more than twice as much as the Eagletac G25C2 (I have it). Based on what I see, it should be right.
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easilyled
Flashaholic
Only a few years ago 53,000 lux per metre would have exceeded nearly all non-custom lights for throw, including the dedicated throwers.
Its throw is similar in lux to my Olight SR51. The "SR" denotes Search & Rescue category. The SR51 is a larger light and produces nothing like the overall output of this light with a much narrower field of view lit up.
The combination of lux (throw) and lumens (overall output) for this light should be more than enough for just about anyone, save a few specialist professional search and rescue personnel who would have to use much larger lights than this for their needs.
The main problem most everyday users would have when employing this light on the highest level would be the continual number of complaints regarding its excessive brightness from their walking companions and people coming from the opposite direction.
This light could therefore be defined as producing a "wall of light" which is blasted out at the distance of many "thrower" lights. A kind of mini version of the TK75.
Its throw is similar in lux to my Olight SR51. The "SR" denotes Search & Rescue category. The SR51 is a larger light and produces nothing like the overall output of this light with a much narrower field of view lit up.
The combination of lux (throw) and lumens (overall output) for this light should be more than enough for just about anyone, save a few specialist professional search and rescue personnel who would have to use much larger lights than this for their needs.
The main problem most everyday users would have when employing this light on the highest level would be the continual number of complaints regarding its excessive brightness from their walking companions and people coming from the opposite direction.
This light could therefore be defined as producing a "wall of light" which is blasted out at the distance of many "thrower" lights. A kind of mini version of the TK75.
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I think lights like this are "kind of" throwers even if they aren't meant to be. I think most of us on CPF have been here a few years at least so what a thrower meant in 2008 is sort of intersected by "wall of light" lights in 2014.
The only thing that is bad about non-dedicated throwers is possible loss of night vision more than with true throwers.
