NimH "N" Batts.

vcal

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Just got the relatively new Nimh
N-cells for the Baton Light and
my 6 led Mag from Ledcorp..
These lights both show STRONG
performance, and can b recharged
400-600 times..
(that takes the sting out of the
price somewhat-$6.95 a pair)
-they are rated at 360 mah from
Radio Shaft.....:)
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Doug -

Thank's for the info on the NIMH N's - I didn't realize N's popularity had grown sufficiently that NIMH was made.

How much did the brightness change going from a 1.5V alkaline to a 1.2V (actually
more like 1.32) NIMH?

I had thought about this - but it was low on my priorities list, since duracell N's are under $1 ea, which makes filling the flashlight for 12 hours light only $3 - or a quarter per hour to operate.

I just wish they made N lithium - I'd like to have an arctic cold solution for the batonlight as well - the materials they used (aluminum and lexan [tm/ GE corp]) can certainly take the frigid temps - but battery performance of anything non-lithium down there is going to be sad.

(And, yes, I've **BEEN** to the arctic circle - it's a whole different philosophy when there is no sun, and the high for the "day" is -80 if you igore the windchill factor, which you best not! - and you need a working flashlight to check on the fire that melts the snow so you have running water in your shelter in Barrow, AK.

I've tested several flashlights in environmental test chambers that can simulate those conditions - that's what separates the men from the boys. Filaments don't run as hot, so the bulbs blacken faster - batteries don't have nearly as high of a voltage - and the cheap flashlights shatter (not just the bulb/reflector - the
whole flashlight - take a K-mart $1.99 special down to -80 and you're left with a bunch of shards of plastic)


Then there's the thermal shock test- when you take that flashlight that's at -80 from being outside inside your shelter, which is hopefully at least +60F - it's going to change 140 degrees F temperature in just a few minutes - Also has a tendency to destroy inferior products.

Anyways - cat's outa the bag now - I'm a reliability engineer/scientist - so my purchases are based on quality more than anything else!
 

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Hmmwv,
The brightness was just barely
a little higher with the Nimh,
(probably because the voltage
doesn't compress under load with
Nicad/Nimh), but I couldn't tell
you how real LOW temperatures
would affect performance...
although past xperience shows LI to last longer in those LOW temps..
BST.REGRDS,
p.s.-there IS a 544 Lithium batt
mentioned elsewhere in this forum, but I can't find it...
RGRDS,
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-hmmmwv
FWIW-batteryguy found that L544
batt u might need..
It's an "N" sized 6v.single cell
a.k.a.Duracell PX28L, L544, etc.
I don't think it's maH capacity
would be very high though..
(not to be confused with the
alkaline version-A544,PX28A,etc.
They're 7 bucks ea.@ K-Mart, and
$8.49 @ Radio Shaft....
batteryhead
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by videocal:
-hmmmwv
FWIW-batteryguy found that L544
batt u might need..
It's an "N" sized 6v.single cell
a.k.a.Duracell PX28L, L544, etc.
I don't think it's maH capacity
would be very high though..
(not to be confused with the
alkaline version-A544,PX28A,etc.
They're 7 bucks ea.@ K-Mart, and
$8.49 @ Radio Shaft....
batteryhead
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

L544 and PX28L is not N size batteries. It's a 6v battery. They're bigger in diameter and way shorter in height (N size - 29.35mm x 4 vs L544 - 25.15mm x 1) . They're stacked batteries of 2L76 and DL1/3N. It has very small capacity around 160ma~190ma.

By the way, 2L76 and DL1/3N could replace 2 of LR44s.

Alan
 

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hmmwv
May seem like silly idea, but for those COOOOLD conditions you
mentioned-I saw on some "outdoor
equipt. sites-some very THIN
chemical hand warmers that could
be wrapped around yor flashlites
& secured w/wire to keep those lites a little more toasty..
smile.gif

Re: that L 544 batt, if it does
not fit inside your Batonlite,
u can either hit me over the head with it, or send send it to
me and I'll send u 8 bucks..:)
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by videocal:
The critical thing in hmmwv's
application is the DIAMETER, not
the length of the batt.
He wanted Li for the Batonlite I
think..u r right about the LENGTH and smaller capacity though...
TRUST me, this batt. fits in the
Batonlite-I bought one!
Interestingly, the 1/3 N designation that u mentioned, again, refers to the diameter as
well as te length..
batteryman
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't get me wrong, I didn't mean that L544 won't fit in Batonlite. I just simply point out that L544 is not "N" sized battery as you mentioned in your previous message. AAA could replace AA doesn't make it AA sized battery.

Anyway, I doubt if 160ma (PX28L) to 190ma (L544) 6v battery will do any good to a 3-LED Batonlite which draw around 200ma under 4.5v.

DL1/3N is 11.6 in diameter and 10.8 in height. You might find that stacking 2 of them will be still smaller than PX28L. The extra size is due to the wrapping. I didn't take it apart for checking though.

Alan
 

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Leaving out the word "(approx.)"
out of th text sure causes a lot of misunderstandings....
I, bring the incurabl xperimentr
am always looking for new twists
or possible combinations.
-They don't all work.
Most of this for me, is only for fun, as I already have a "day job" -so I don't have to worry about exactitudes with this, as I'm not trying to re-invent the Hydrogen Bomb
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The critical thing in hmmwv's
application is the DIAMETER, not
the length of the batt.
He wanted Li for the Batonlite I
think..u r right about the LENGTH and smaller capacity though...
TRUST me, this batt. fits in the
Batonlite-I bought one!
Interestingly, the 1/3 N designation that u mentioned, again, refers to the diameter as
well as te length..
batteryman
 
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