Something New Coming from Surefire?

[WDR65]

It looks a bit short for that. Maybe the E1B maxvision or another single celled e series light. Probably the maxvision though since they're touting the new versions and that's also an XC2 which has a maxvision reflector. It seems that Surefire may be getting back to their roots a bit. The old incandescent days where they had the "perfect" beam, it was never the best thrower but it was about the the best all around.

 

[Jose Marin]

I wonder how much harder can you really drive 2xcr123s. 800 would heat them up pretty quick i would think. I terminated a malkoff m61hot on 2xcr123 because the output dropped prematurely caused by the cr123s over heated and were too hot to hold. Keep in mind the m61hot is 500 lumens with a modern xplhi

 

[mk2rocco]

Looks like the EDCL-2T, there is a new thread about it. Sounds like Surefire is bringing the 2 stage tailcap back and it looks e series compatible now!

Here's the single cell version:

 

[Eric242]

The light looks pretty cool and the tailcap like an E-Sized Z59. But once again, like the E1D and EB1, the light is way to big for a single cell (123sized) light.

 

[Swedpat]

I wonder how much harder can you really drive 2xcr123s. 800 would heat them up pretty quick i would think. I terminated a malkoff m61hot on 2xcr123 because the output dropped prematurely caused by the cr123s over heated and were too hot to hold. Keep in mind the m61hot is 500 lumens with a modern xplhi

I thought the same. 800lm with 2xCR123 - not good. It should be a steep decline to significantly lower level.

 

[Modernflame]

I thought the same. 800lm with 2xCR123 - not good. It should be a steep decline to significantly lower level.

Those new 800lm lights will come with a wicked step down. It will likely be a burst, along the lines of the 1000lm Fury.

 

[free2game]

This seems interesting, looks like their mainline stuff is all being upgraded soon too

 

[Modernflame]

This seems interesting, looks like their mainline stuff is all being upgraded soon too

SF seems to be moving in the right direction, but I'd still like to see runtime/ output charts. 1200lm seems like a massive request of two CR123's. Programmed step downs must be part of the equation.

 

[Nephron44]

SF seems to be moving in the right direction, but I'd still like to see runtime/ output charts. 1200lm seems like a massive request of two CR123's. Programmed step downs must be part of the equation.

Their products are going in the right direction, but their prices aren't :/ the new G2 with MaxVision is expensive for a polymer light...I can't imagine the MaxVision setup costs THAT much more to make!

 

[kj2]

Hopefully SF will support 16650 or 18650 in their newer lights.

 

[moltenmag]

Hopefully SF will support 16650 or 18650 in their newer lights.

Totally hope so too. I love my old LX2. But a light with a 15 lumen low and 1200 lumen high that runs 18650 cells would easily replace it.

 

[EricJames]

Hopefully SF will support 16650 or 18650 in their newer lights.

I read somewhere that the new 1500 lumen Fury be dual fuel (hence the df in the model number). This means it will support 18650 batteries. As for the other lights, I can only assume they would support 16650 batteries. Being that they are 6V devices.

 

[Gadgetman7]

I wish they would make a AA fueled light!

 

[Nephron44]

I wish they would make a AA fueled light!

They would have to go backwards in lumen progress to power a light with AA. It seems they are pushing for more lumens with each new light instead of different fuel options.

A duel fuel like the Streamlight Protac 1L-1AA would be nice, but I'm sure it would be expensive! I like the 1L-1AA enough that I wouldn't go for a Surefire version unless it was similar in price, which won't happen.

 

[free2game]

They would have to go backwards in lumen progress to power a light with AA. It seems they are pushing for more lumens with each new light instead of different fuel options.

A duel fuel like the Streamlight Protac 1L-1AA would be nice, but I'm sure it would be expensive! I like the 1L-1AA enough that I wouldn't go for a Surefire version unless it was similar in price, which won't happen.

Seems like there would be an expectation with it, I mean if they can get 500 lumens out of a 3v light I don't see how they couldn't make a 2AA body with the same head, they still make the 2AA scout light iirc.

 

[Nephron44]

Seems like there would be an expectation with it, I mean if they can get 500 lumens out of a 3v light I don't see how they couldn't make a 2AA body with the same head, they still make the 2AA scout light iirc.

True, but it would be a much longer light, though, and wouldn't be as pocket friendly for some people, especially those that are used to small one cell lights.

 

[slumber]

They had prototyped the PMX Fury a few years back at Shot Show, but they never released it. It was basically a P3X Fury with a sleeve to run 200 lumens on 2xAA.

 

[desert.snake]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1380612-REG/surefire_fury_ib_df_fury_dual_fuel.html

1500 lm!!

I do not even assume how this can quickly heat up. I have an think - outwardly it does not seem that
the reflector is heavily modified, so perhaps it is designed for the same 5 * 5 mm diode.
XM-L2 gives a maximum of about 1200 lm, here 1500 lm.
Maybe this is used here?
http://www.cree.com/led-components/products/xlamp-leds-arrays/xlamp-xhp50-2

While this is only an assumption, I'm going to make an order
and in 1.5-2 months I'll know exactly which diode is inside
(given the ability of my mail to forward parcels on foot).