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The XL200 is what I was talking about. How many lumens is the Xl200 running at after that initial big big drop before the green line goes essentially flat?

What I'm concerned about is that they advertise a long run time at X lumens but in reality the majority of the runtime is taking place at a lower level.
 
It's 50%, so you can do the math and figure it out. :)

They're not advertising a long runtime at initial output...it's defined by the ANSI standard.
 
The brightness column has no labels so I couldn't be sure. I wonder if the D's are the same way or if they just steadily decrease in brightness as the runtime goes longer. Its no good having a light that runs at 70 lumens for a whole 5 minutes before it drops to 30 lumens for the majority of its runtime.
 
I don't want people comparing the raw data because readings are relative, so there are no labels. It is linear, and halfway down will be 50%.

However, brightness perception is not linear, so it won't appear "50% less bright." Without a light meter, it probably won't be noticeable. In addition, consider how long you typically use a light. Most flashlight use is under 15 minutes, and extra runtime would be preferable for extended use during something like a power outage. Keep in mind that Maglite's market is consumer and professionals, not enthusiasts. Law enforcement prefers this type of regulation as well, and they are fairly influential.

Shape of the curve after stepping down to 50% depends on battery chemistry. NiMH maintains 50% but alkaline gradually decreases with battery voltage.
 
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Most people assume the light is simply gradually decreasing. A maximum runtime on "high" most people assume indicates that the light will run for X hours at the listed "High" lumens" or at least on "High" mode and assume it starts at the max lumens and slowly drops down..rather than 5 minutes of actual "high" and a big step down to 50%.

Good review on that light. Its such a nice design. I think Maglites are the colt 1911 of flashlights meaning they have a loyal following and something about them just feels right in most people's hands. the XL200 is a modern design but has the same Maglite feel.

I would like to see a runtime chart for the current D cell LED's though.
 
Here is the runtime graph for the Luxeon Rebel version lights. I don't have any XP-E Mini Maglite or D-cell lights, nor do I plan on getting any, so I won't be able to make any graphs for those (unless they introduce some major changes).

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I'm really happy with the one I got. Would like to upgrade the lens to start with. Malkoff is out of stock on their website. Any other suggestions?
 
As far as lenses I would like better than stock, but I don't want something that will break or shatter.
 
I got one of these Mag-Lites yesterday for $30 plus tax. My emitter has the number 483. It says on the package 114 lumens and 298 beam distance. I took these pictures last nite.

60Yds

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110Yds

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350Yds

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And just to better state my point, compare that same shot above with the M3X below and you will see what I mean. No comparison in throw, and the M3X will not throw 600 meters.

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ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS,

You got the Rebel led not the XPE. The packages states 298 meters, not 600. The XPE package states 388 meters, 134 lumen and 37567cd. I don't know why you expected 600 meters unless someone made that claim.
As for the M3x, at least 4 times the price and 5 times the lumens; why compare? :confused:

BTW Thanks for the shots.:thumbsup: It is rare for anyone to do beamshots of Maglites, except for using old incandescent Maglites to build up their led lights in comparison testing.
 
bstrickler said:
My XP-E Mag easily throws 600 meters. I can distinguish a person from a bush fairly well at that range, too. Of course it's no SR-90, but it's still dang good range, for only being driven to 110 lumens.

I was going to mod it with an XM-L, but I've decided to just buy an incan 3D, and the deep reflector from the new ones, and mod that.

Honestly, It's one of the best $30 I've spent on a flashlight yet ($50 if you include batteries & taxes).

Just gotta get the $150+, so I can make my 9AA XM-L Mag build.

Beamshot range added. From dot to dot is the longest range I have tested the light to. Plenty enough for me. Anything past that isn't a problem/threat to me, unless it's a military sniper, at which point I'm %$#%D.
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~Brian
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Well I was going off of what I read here. There is a big difference between hitting a reflector at 600 meters than lighting something up with visible throw at that distance.
 
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Something I noticed at Home Depot the other day...There are 3D/Minimag combos on sale in a skinnier package...~ the same price as Costco's combo, but with Costco, the 3Ds are all black, and the Minimags are in a few colors. Home Depot combinations have varied colors, the same for both the 3D and the MM.
 
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sniper said:
Something I noticed at Home Depot the other day...There are 3D/Minimag combos on sale in a skinnier package...~ the same price as Costco's combo, but with Costco, the 3Ds are all black, and the Minimags are in a few colors. Home Depot combinations have varied colors, the same for both the 3D and the MM.
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Yep ... $30 saw and bought. 3D is 132 package stated lumens / 2AA with four way switcing is 69 package stated lumens.
 
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I added the drop in from MAG to my old 3 and 4 cell lights (from 1982), and the work great as spare or extra lights. What LED do they use in their drop-in? It has a dome on top and seems well made.  I guess I added the drop-in two or three years ago?
 
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