papageorgio
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im digging it, i picked up 2 more tonight for gifts. What a bargain for 15 bucks. I really wish they would use a metal reflector though....
Maglite LED now using Cree XP-E
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I saw the 63 lumens version 2AA's also in Lowe's today -- I was also wondering. The pkg had the words "NEW MULTIMODE..." in the upper right-hand corner on the label. The other two 2AA versions didn't have the word 'NEW'.
If I didn't read the pkg date wrong, it was 11/10. Perhaps I'll double chk when I drive by the store again.
Curious what XP-E bins these are -- Q3/Q5/R5, etc.?
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Funny on Lowe's website they put the sale prices back for the 2AA/2D/3D's as regular prices now. Perhaps to compete with HD as HD still has sale prices for the 2D/3D's. So if you still want to get one, the lower prices are still good now... . There're some 2AA's with the 77 lumens ratings.
BTW, wonder if anyone has done some real-world tests on runtimes with NiMH's (trying to locate some threads in the forum...)?
I've been running the 2AA Maglite LED XP-E on high for almost 4 hrs now with fully charged GP ReCyko AA's. Still pretty decent light (> 50 lumens, comparable brightness to my other 71 lumens AAA LED flashlight -- eyeballing so not 100% accurate... ). Not bad. Will see how far it goes... .
A side question:
The 2D Maglite won't work with the 2AA-D cell case/holder I have as the negative contact from the end spring on the 2D Maglite is further out and cannot touch the negative plate of the holder.
Anyone knows where to get a 2AA-D cell case/holder that has a larger outside negative contact plate? Don't want to use a magnet plate solution for this... .
BTW, wonder if anyone has done some real-world tests on runtimes with NiMH's (trying to locate some threads in the forum...)?
I've been running the 2AA Maglite LED XP-E on high for almost 4 hrs now with fully charged GP ReCyko AA's. Still pretty decent light (> 50 lumens, comparable brightness to my other 71 lumens AAA LED flashlight -- eyeballing so not 100% accurate... ). Not bad. Will see how far it goes... .
A side question:
The 2D Maglite won't work with the 2AA-D cell case/holder I have as the negative contact from the end spring on the 2D Maglite is further out and cannot touch the negative plate of the holder.
Anyone knows where to get a 2AA-D cell case/holder that has a larger outside negative contact plate? Don't want to use a magnet plate solution for this... .
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BTW, anyone has removed the Mag 2D/3D Rebel/XP-E bulb assembly from the flashlight body?
I tried an allen wrench into the middle opening after removing the rubber switch cap and it turned w/o efforts. The assembly was still tight in the housing.
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2AA XP-E runtime test (NiMH) :
5.5 hr and the output seems to be down to 50 lumens or so... .
I tried an allen wrench into the middle opening after removing the rubber switch cap and it turned w/o efforts. The assembly was still tight in the housing.
PS:
2AA XP-E runtime test (NiMH) :
5.5 hr and the output seems to be down to 50 lumens or so... .
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ol flatlander
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Is the type of led maglite was using in their mini maglites the reason they are unreliable? I have actually had three unreliable units in a row when they first came out so I quit maglite. I really liked their products and would like to know that I can trust them to work all the time like in the old days. Until then I just can't see spending another nickel on one.
I would appreciate any updates on this matter that you can throw my way.
Thanks!
I know you don't won't a magnet but I used a nickel on tail end. It worked great and only cost 5 cents.
You got a good deal on that nickel!!!! ..;p).
Thx for all the nice tips! :-) I bent the last section of the end spring w/ a Vise Grip (glad the spring didn't break!) on the 2D Maglite LED. Working w/ the AA NiMH's now w/ the 2AA-D battery case holders.
Briefly removed the bulb assembly from the Maglite 2D LED flashlight's body. It needs a Torx T7. You really need a thin Torx key to get in there. Funny all the Torx sets ran out in Lowe's in the area -- everyone was buying the Torx set for 'Xmas gift -- or playing w/ the Maglite 2D LED lights?
For the Maglite 2AA LED XP-E, the runtime was about 5.5hr with the GP ReCyko AA's. At 6hr it dropped to 20-25 lumens and continued on for a good while (didn't measure that afterward).
The XP-E's are definitely brighter than the Rebel's (at least it's noticeable to me). Particularly on the 2D XP-E. I'm using the XP-E's now.
At these prices I don't mind if they'd last for a year or two (hopefully they'd...). Obviously not IPX-3, etc., but working quite well at least right now.
Briefly removed the bulb assembly from the Maglite 2D LED flashlight's body. It needs a Torx T7. You really need a thin Torx key to get in there. Funny all the Torx sets ran out in Lowe's in the area -- everyone was buying the Torx set for 'Xmas gift -- or playing w/ the Maglite 2D LED lights?
For the Maglite 2AA LED XP-E, the runtime was about 5.5hr with the GP ReCyko AA's. At 6hr it dropped to 20-25 lumens and continued on for a good while (didn't measure that afterward).
The XP-E's are definitely brighter than the Rebel's (at least it's noticeable to me). Particularly on the 2D XP-E. I'm using the XP-E's now.
At these prices I don't mind if they'd last for a year or two (hopefully they'd...). Obviously not IPX-3, etc., but working quite well at least right now.
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I just picked up one with the XP-E at Home Depot for $14.88. Do not get me wrong, it is a great , bright light, and a steal at $14.88, but there is no difference in brightness on this light than my 3 cell Rebel. There is too much "hoopla" over the new versions of these lights for nothing! When they get upgraded so they put out 200+ lumens, then you will be talking!!! ;p).
Capitalistpig
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Picked up a 3 cell Cree today at Lowes for $14.97----American made, bright as all get out for $15 bucks-----what's not to like?
Stated run time on the pkg is 79hrs-----is that right?
Stated run time on the pkg is 79hrs-----is that right?
Robin24k
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79 hours is correct, the ANSI standard is until output drops below 10%. With 3+ cell lights, you'll get a ridiculously long tail-end of the runtime, which is why the 3D has a much longer runtime than the 2D.
DBCstm
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I'll look for that new upgrade in a 2d, as well as the new MiniMag. Just modded my old MiniMag with a TeraLux claiming 140 lumens, but I think it doesn't come real close to that. Made an adapter to use 9 Eneloops in my 3D with a DiamondMag LED and that works nicely, will have to see about changing out that old led for some more output though.
I also modded a 2D based on JayRob's work and put a P7 in it with a voltage monitor and 2 D cell 32650's, it's pretty amazing but non focus ruins the throw on it, so I'll have Jay mod me a D cell in the new deep reflector and make it a stubby for a single 32650, that should be nice!! He uses his own make of heatsink and a XM-L T6 emitter, can't wait!!
I also modded a 2D based on JayRob's work and put a P7 in it with a voltage monitor and 2 D cell 32650's, it's pretty amazing but non focus ruins the throw on it, so I'll have Jay mod me a D cell in the new deep reflector and make it a stubby for a single 32650, that should be nice!! He uses his own make of heatsink and a XM-L T6 emitter, can't wait!!
LilKevin715
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The XP-E mag (like the rebel) isn't half bad at all considering what you get for a mass-manufactured, good quality, and easily obtainable flashlight. For those of you that are interested in throw/hotspot lux I did a comparison of the following:
Top: 3D XP-E Deep Reflector (131 lumens ANSI)
Bottom Left: 2D Modified (3C cells) XP-E R2 @ 1.05 Amps (~180-190 lumens OTF), Incan Reflector
Bottom Right: 2D Rebel Deep Reflector (114 lumens ANSI)
Pictures are under-exposed to show the hotspots better. Top is the XP-E 3D, bottom left is the 2D Rebel, bottom right is the XP-E @ 1.05A. Pictures were taken immediately after switch activation to reduce sagging of output due to heat buildup.
As you can see the XP-E mag has higher hotspot lux compared to the Rebel mag. I was suprised though that my XP-E mag @ 1.05A with the incan reflector was still able to outshine the stock mags with the deeper reflectors. I wonder what a XP-E R3 @ 1.4A with a deep reflector would look like, hmmm...:devil: I guess another future project when I have the time.
Top: 3D XP-E Deep Reflector (131 lumens ANSI)
Bottom Left: 2D Modified (3C cells) XP-E R2 @ 1.05 Amps (~180-190 lumens OTF), Incan Reflector
Bottom Right: 2D Rebel Deep Reflector (114 lumens ANSI)
Pictures are under-exposed to show the hotspots better. Top is the XP-E 3D, bottom left is the 2D Rebel, bottom right is the XP-E @ 1.05A. Pictures were taken immediately after switch activation to reduce sagging of output due to heat buildup.
As you can see the XP-E mag has higher hotspot lux compared to the Rebel mag. I was suprised though that my XP-E mag @ 1.05A with the incan reflector was still able to outshine the stock mags with the deeper reflectors. I wonder what a XP-E R3 @ 1.4A with a deep reflector would look like, hmmm...:devil: I guess another future project when I have the time.
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edpmis02
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Picked up a $15 2D version @ HD to replace my (useless) Lux III version that I carry in the car over the winter.. Big difference! A real thrower light to compliment my XPE quark AA^2 also in the car and LD01 on my keychain.
I picked up two of the 2D LED Maglites with the XP-E today at Home Depot. I paid $15.88 each. What a great deal! An American made light, with an American made LED, and also including 2 new D Duracell batteries for that price is just crazy. The output is nice, way brighter than the 19 lumens of the incan 2D. Also the throw is great. It is not much different from my Thrunite Catapult V3. The tint is not as blue/purple as I thought it would be. I am a huge neutral white fan so I can't stand cool white LED's, but this one is not too bad. I would guess somewhere between 6000-7000K. If anybody has a Home Depot close you can't go wrong with these for this price. Good job Maglite!
Now...these maglites all have pretty incredible stated runtimes.
Here is a question, do they all have severe drop off like that newer 3x AAA LED that mag is selling? Those lights run for 20 minutes before dropping down to a much lower level. Do these 3d and 2d mags run at their stated output for most of the lifespan in the D cells?
Here is a question, do they all have severe drop off like that newer 3x AAA LED that mag is selling? Those lights run for 20 minutes before dropping down to a much lower level. Do these 3d and 2d mags run at their stated output for most of the lifespan in the D cells?
Robin24k
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I don't have an XP-E D-cell light, but the ML100's runtime graph may provide some insight into their current design:
