Armytek Wizard Pro Prototype Long-Term Testing

[Knight_Light]

For those that have both a Zebralight and the new Armytek - WHICH UI DO YOU LIKE BETTER? WHY?

I have both headlamps and to be honest I like both UIs giving the Armytek a slight edge. Zebra light has the convenience of being able to access 3 modes fairly easily and quickly and intuitively but if you want to access the additional modes it becomes a lot more cumbersome.

With Armytek you can jump around from different modes a lot easier.

 

[Beacon of Light]

Not sure how using the single headstrap makes the Wizard easier to rotate in the holder, or are you saying to cut off one of the loops of the rubber holder????

Someone posted in one of the Armytek threads about being careful of over tightening the tailcap for fear of not only stripping the threads, but cracking the pcb inside the light from pressure of the 18650.

I only have the 1 strap as I hate headstaps with the top strap, as I never use them as I feel like a mental patient with a top strap and it just feels wrong. We will have to agree to disagree as I love the zebralights holders and headstraps. I love the elasticity and graphic design of the ZL straps as well as the buckles. The Armytek strap isn't as secure and tends to loosen up even with the loose end doubled over the buckle and tucked in. The Zebralight stays sized exactly where you size it, but it is easy to adjust on the fly.

The silicone holder on the Zebralight I find the best of any headlamps as it allows a smooth rotation and I have never had one where it is too loose. I own an H50/H50B/H31?H51/H51F/and 2 H502s and none of them have the light flopping around in the holder. They all stay put but are super easy to rotate and adjust. Basically they are perfect. I would also prefer the light to be on the looser side than too tight as if it was too loose you can wrap some tape or something to cause friction. With the Armytek it will require sanding or removing material. Plus I also prefer the glow in the dark holder and I have them on all my Zebralights.

I'll probably be sending the U3 Wide and U2 regular back as I'm not really happy with them for the roughly $200 it cost me for them. I'd be interested in H600 but I'd be willing to wait for their next version or Mark II with the lower modes like the H502 has.

You are absolutely right the holder is a little bit too tight on the Armytek but it is a lot better then being 2 loose which is what it is often on zebra lights. Try using only one strap that’s what I do indoors and it works fairly well.

You will not crack anything by holding onto the tail to twist the headlamp. Once the threads bottom out it’s not going any further.

I hate to zebra light head strap. It doesn’t have a top strap which is super important for a headband and the silicon holder is 2 loose on most of the headlamp’s. So I would have to disagree with your statement.

 

[Beacon of Light]

that doesn't do a lot for me then as all I really ever use on any light I own are the lower sub lumen levels. I have quite a few Novatac lights and after the Easter Egg hack I program all my lights and basically they are all the same, .08 (primary 1 click), .33 (secondary 2 click), .94 (minimum 3 click), 2.7 (maximum click press) I think that says it all when 2.7 lumens is all I need for HIGH on my lights.

The Armytek is a lot more efficient in the higher lumen output levels and less efficient in the lower levels.

 

[Trevtrain]

that doesn't do a lot for me then as all I really ever use on any light I own are the lower sub lumen levels. I have quite a few Novatac lights and after the Easter Egg hack I program all my lights and basically they are all the same, .08 (primary 1 click), .33 (secondary 2 click), .94 (minimum 3 click), 2.7 (maximum click press) I think that says it all when 2.7 lumens is all I need for HIGH on my lights.

Well, no offence but if all you ever need for HIGH is 2.7 lumens why on earth did you even bother with this light?

 

[Glenn7]

Same here no offence, I agree with you beacon of light you should send back the Armytek lights as you don't seem to like them and that's Ok you are welcome to like them or not and have your opinion, you really seem to like zebra so you should stick to them if they are better for your needs. It just seems that almost every post of yours is so negative to a point that is almost like flaming/trolling (or maybe just me to me) to a point that is spoiling the thread for those that own and like the Armytek lights and want to discuss them - you have made your point now, try to see it from mine and don't take offence please.

 

[ArcticHighlander]

Something I used to compare models, as I was debating the Zebralight/Armytek thing. I hope this helps.
I know that it is not a comparison of apples to apples in the least bit, considering the discrepancies in beam angles, tint, optics, and output, but I will let you decide what lamp you think is preferable.

(all values are from the specifications posted on the corresponding headlamp websites. I have not tested to confirm their exact values.)

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[TR]
[TD]Armytek Wizard Pro
[/TD]
[TD]Zebralight H600
[/TD]
[TD]Zebralight H600Fw
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tint: 5500k
[/TD]
[TD]Tint: 6300k
[/TD]
[TD]Tint: 4200k
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Spill: 120°
[/TD]
[TD]Spill: 80°
[/TD]
[TD]Spill: 90°
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Spot:70°
[/TD]
[TD]Spot:12°
[/TD]
[TD]Spot: N/A
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Optics:TIR
[/TD]
[TD]Optics:Clear
[/TD]
[TD]Optics: Frosted
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Battery: 3100mAh (for below runtimes)
[/TD]
[TD]Battery: 2900mAh
[/TD]
[TD]Battery: 2900mAh
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Output:
[/TD]
[TD]Output:
[/TD]
[TD]Output:
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1010 lm (1h 6min)
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]550 lm (2.8h)
[/TD]
[TD]420Lm with 750Lm turbo in the first 3 min (2.4 hrs)
[/TD]
[TD]343Lm with 612Lm turbo in the first 3 min (2.4 hrs)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]250 lm (7h)
[/TD]
[TD]170Lm (7 hrs) / 270Lm (4 hrs)
[/TD]
[TD]139Lm (7 hrs) / 220Lm (4 hrs)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]115 lm (15h)
[/TD]
[TD]65Lm (18 hrs)
[/TD]
[TD]53Lm (18 hrs)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]30 lm (50h)
[/TD]
[TD]21Lm (50 hrs)
[/TD]
[TD]7Lm (50 hrs)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7 lm (9d)
[/TD]
[TD]2.8Lm (11.5 d)
[/TD]
[TD]2.3Lm (11.5 days)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.5 lm (100d)
[/TD]
[TD]0.1Lm (80 days)
[/TD]
[TD]0.09Lm (80 days)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Also,
Lampyridae,:welcome:

And, yes, one would hope that the U3 is under that TIR, though it will probably be hard to tell unless the lens is taken off haha. I think the "Limited Edition" just means it has the marginally more efficient/bright U3 LED for those that consider this highly valuable. I will let someone else speak of the stamp itself, as I do not have that particular light.

But Armytek uses LED emitter lumens in its specifications so their specs have unrealistically high values while Zebralight's specifications are out the front, giving actual values.

 

[Outdoorsman5]

But Armytek uses LED emitter lumens in its specifications so their specs have unrealistically high values while Zebralight's specifications are out the front, giving actual values.

+1

I think Armytek is doing a great job with their new lights, and I'm looking forward to what's "next" for them. They really need to state the output of their lights in terms of "Out the Front" or better yet "ANSI" like everyone else. They can continue to quote LED lumens so long as they also quote the ANSI or OTF lumens too.

They need to start doing this sooner than later. Every time I see a company quote the output of their lights in terms of "LED Lumens" I view them as purposely being misleading. For the most part only flashaholics know the difference, so the unsuspecting "unenlightened" person will think these lights outperform all others. When those people later learn the truth, their trust for that company is reduced. This happened to me when I was a noob. I loved LED Lenser lights with a passion until I discovered how misleading they were being. They were doing it on purpose. They stated outputs and especially runtimes that were hilarious....but I and most others didn't realize they were flat out lying to us all. Once I learned the truth I began to despise them & bash them. They have shaped up quite a bit, and have earned some of my respect back. But, I never bought another one from them.

This was just an illistration; I wouldn't put Armytek anywhere close to the same class as LED Lenser.....BUT, my advice to Armytek is to fix this now before they lose their excellent & hard-earned respect.

 

[LEDburn]

Runtime on the 30 lm (Mode 1) has now been CONFIRMED at 37h and 29m with an unprotected 3400 mAh Panasonic battery (NCR18650B). :thumbsup:

30 LED lumens are probably close to Zebralight's 21 lumens, right? So why are you continually going on and on and on about the Armytek being way more efficient? ZL will run for 50 hours, with a lower capacity cell. I haven't personally confirmed this but every high mode ran within 5% of spec and that I have personally tested.
ZL's circuit in H600 is also much older, the newer SC600 runs @ a claimed 27L for 66 hours!!!!

Since the lumens are NOT OTF I think any efficiency argument is invalid anyway as there is no way in hell of telling how much light that TIR is losing! Going off the massively inflated (maybe more misrepresented as almost everyone uses OTF or ANSI now) output claims, I sure don't have faith in them.

I was really interested in Armytek and found the Wizard when actually looking for a flashlight. Seeing as I love my H600 so much I figured I would check them out. Seems the company has the same poor CS, if not worse. All I can say is that my excitement for a genuine competitor, followed by research via this thread, has actually scared me off the brand altogether!

Alot of the OP's posts seem like someone from marketing is posing as a genuine user albeit with major bias. All this mention of confirmed runtimes yet the lumen claims are yet to be verified and shady at best!

Same here no offence, I agree with you beacon of light you should send back the Armytek lights as you don't seem to like them and that's Ok you are welcome to like them or not and have your opinion, you really seem to like zebra so you should stick to them if they are better for your needs. It just seems that almost every post of yours is so negative to a point that is almost like flaming/trolling (or maybe just me to me) to a point that is spoiling the thread for those that own and like the Armytek lights and want to discuss them - you have made your point now, try to see it from mine and don't take offence please.

Beacon of Light is just addressing issues nobody else seems to care about. Anyone who purchases two lights which they then criticize is hardly a troll if you ask me. My initial reaction was really positive, and not due to inflated output claims, but now I have read this thread, I am really in doubt that I will actually purchase any Armytek lights. Maybe that's not fair and they just screwed this up in an attempt to get into a market already dominated by a well known and respected product.
I may have missed it, but do you have a Wizard AND H600? If so, what do you think?

For me I will wait until I hear some actual OTF numbers and I recommend others do the same. I will put my life on the line and say that ZL will be better performers, especially when their new circuit is implemented into the H600 much like SC600.

Anyone who says 0.5L is low enough obviously has poor eyes. I'm sorry but it really is that simple.

 

[Trevtrain]

Beacon of Light is just addressing issues nobody else seems to care about. Anyone who purchases two lights which they then criticize is hardly a troll if you ask me.
Anyone who says 0.5L is low enough obviously has poor eyes. I'm sorry but it really is that simple.

Steady on LEDburn.

I'm not sure that anyone claiming a high of 2.7lm is all that's required is really speaking for the masses. Additionally, purchasing two lights and then returning them simply because you later decided you didn't get a good enough price (refer to some of his previous posts) or the specifications don't meet your rather peculiar "needs" is an odd way to view doing business. I'd hate to be a retailer selling lights to customers who simply expect to play with them for a while and then return them for a refund without a damn good reason.

I'm not sure why this thread has deteriorated into such a passionate "my Zebra is better than your Armytek" fight anyway. Both brands have their merits and each user needs to select a product that best suits their own needs. That's why people take the time to do reviews and why we bother to read them.

On the subject of Customer Service... I think you need to go away and do a bit more research. Most of the reports on Armytek's CS have been quite favourable. Zebralight still has a bit to learn in this regard it seems.

If you'd followed the development threads at CPFMarketplace you would know that the OP is not an Armytek shill. No further comment needed.

And finally, how can anyone who makes a blanket statement about how many lumens is low enough be taken seriously? What happened to each of us having our own needs and opinions? Funnily enough, those of us with poor or older eyes also use flashlights.

 

[Knight_Light]

Not sure how using the single headstrap makes the Wizard easier to rotate in the holder, or are you saying to cut off one of the loops of the rubber holder????

I apologize for not clarifying. I am talking about the rubber holder. You do not have to cut one of the loops off (although that is a solution that is a lot prettier) just don’t slide it through the 2nd​ loop. It makes it a lot easier to rotate. It’s not the prettiest solution but it does work. I do not know how handy you are but the other solution is to take some of the silicone off with an abrasive.

Someone posted in one of the Armytek threads about being careful of over tightening the tailcap for fear of not only stripping the threads, but cracking the pcb inside the light from pressure of the 18650.

I have tried a lot of the oversized batteries and in my opinion you’re not going to be stripping any threads or cracking any pcb’s. There is room inside the tube for compression of the spring. But then again that is an individual choice so I leave that up to you.

I only have the 1 strap as I hate headstaps with the top strap, as I never use them as I feel like a mental patient with a top strap and it just feels wrong. We will have to agree to disagree as I love the zebralights holders and headstraps. I love the elasticity and graphic design of the ZL straps as well as the buckles. The Armytek strap isn't as secure and tends to loosen up even with the loose end doubled over the buckle and tucked in. The Zebralight stays sized exactly where you size it, but it is easy to adjust on the fly.

I agree that the graphics and the color scheme on the zebra light is better. Having said that I have never yet once had the head strap on the Armytek loosen up. They do not provide the best instructions for putting together the head strap maybe you did not assemble it correctly (not an accusation just a suggestion)? Now if you want to talk about the ideal head strap, in my opinion that is the one from Spark. It rotates and holds the headlamp perfectly and it has a top strap. The elastic is very good as well.

 

[jonathanluu2]

+1

I think Armytek is doing a great job with their new lights, and I'm looking forward to what's "next" for them. They really need to state the output of their lights in terms of "Out the Front" or better yet "ANSI" like everyone else. They can continue to quote LED lumens so long as they also quote the ANSI or OTF lumens too.

For those new to this thread, Armytek made mention of how they measured their light output under one of their CPFMP threads here

Outdoorsman and ArcticHighlander, you do bring up a valid point that there are two different measuring methods for the lumen levels and everyone who values them should take that into account when looking into these lights.

Wow this thread got hot reallll quick. This is just a headlamp we're talkin about here. A hunk of metal with some fancy gadgetry added to it. There are bigger things in life folks. I'll leave it at that so as to avoid being condemned of shilling and come back when I have something constructive to add.

Regards,

J.

 

[Knight_Light]

30 LED lumens are probably close to Zebralight's 21 lumens, right? So why are you continually going on and on and on about the Armytek being way more efficient? ZL will run for 50 hours, with a lower capacity cell. I haven't personally confirmed this but every high mode ran within 5% of spec and that I have personally tested.

Now the difference visually can be substantial or negligible between 21 lm and 30 lm depending on the size of the head the way the optic is set up etc. Having said that going from 21 lm to 30 lm is about a 42% increase in light output (obviously this will not be the perceived difference but we are talking efficiency).

Now my statement was that Armytek is a lot more efficient in the higher lumen output ranges and less efficient in the lower. When you are designing drivers with efficiency in mind you have to concentrate on either the higher or lower output levels, Armytek chose the higher levels. So if you take a look at the Armytek 250 lm level it will run for 7 hours and 23 minutes the zebra light just over 4 hours (that is 80% longer runtime). We can go to the 550 lm level, that will run 3 hours on the Armytek it will run roughly 2 hours and 18 minutes on the zebra light (that is 30% longer runtime).

Alot of the OP's posts seem like someone from marketing is posing as a genuine user albeit with major bias. All this mention of confirmed runtimes yet the lumen claims are yet to be verified and shady at best!

So because I have not taken a light meter to confirm the lumen ratings but have actually spent the time to do runtime tests, that is shady (especially when I disclose that fact)? I respect your opinion, but my opinion is that it is pretty shady to discuss the product when you actually don’t have one in hand nor having ever held one in your hand.

As far as accusations of me being from marketing you should really read some of my other posts before you make that statement. I have the H600 along with other zebra lights, I also happen to have Spark headlamps. So because I have enthusiasm for a product that I believe is the next evolutionary step in this class of lighting technology I have to be accused of being in marketing for Armytek. If you’ve read all of my disclaimers you would understand that the 1st part of the review is all factual and the other part is opinion driven based on my own experiences and knowledge base.

So before you criticize me for being a marketing person ask yourself what is it exactly that you contribute to the well-being of your fellow forum members on this thread. What I attempted to do was give people a glimpse of a product that didn’t even exist in the marketplace (so that people wouldn’t have to make blind purchases). Don’t forget when I started this particular thread there were no hands-on facts about the product. Now maybe there are people that don’t agree with my opinions of the product but I can guarantee you that the people that actually received this headlamp will not dispute the facts that I stated in the 1st part of the review despite the fact that some of them may disagree with my opinions.

I may have missed it, but do you have a Wizard AND H600? If so, what do you think?

I do and I am telling you it is better.

For me I will wait until I hear some actual OTF numbers and I recommend others do the same. I will put my life on the line and say that ZL will be better performers, especially when their new circuit is implemented into the H600 much like SC600.

Just curious do you know when this new circuit is going to be implemented? Like when the actual retail product will be available for sale, because that would be some really useful information.

Anyone who says 0.5L is low enough obviously has poor eyes. I'm sorry but it really is that simple.

Perceived light is not based on lumens alone. Depending on the optic used the size of the head etc. one light can look 3 times as bright as the other. So to make a statement like that is just pure ignorant not to mention being disrespectful of one’s opinion.

 

[Outdoorsman5]

Panties are all up in a wad.

Knight Light, I was at CPFMP when ArmyTek accepted your offer to review this light. I remember thinking, "dang I would have liked to have done that." This has probably turned into a lot more work than you thought it would, and now it's getting hairy. I've recently thought, "glad he's doing this instead of me." I think you have done an admirable job here, and have kept a cool head as well, even when being drilled (which is fair.) Now you've been attacked, and you continue to respond with dignity. Anyway, good job, and thank you for putting in the effort for the CPF community.

LEDburn, I've been in your shoes before. Just cool down a bit before resoponding. Keep it constructive and stop condemning other people's opinions...that never goes over well. If you think someone's opinion is wrong then let them be wrong. I'm sure you have some opinions that don't line up with everyone elses. Accusing Knight Light of working in disguise is crossing the line, and takes away from the good spirit found here at cpf. He's doing you and me a service, and his previous posts proves well enough to me that he is just a cpf fan like you & me.

Carry on.

 

[Knight_Light]

Panties are all up in a wad.

Knight Light, I was at CPFMP when ArmyTek accepted your offer to review this light. I remember thinking, "dang I would have liked to have done that." This has probably turned into a lot more work than you thought it would, and now it's getting hairy. I've recently thought, "glad he's doing this instead of me." I think you have done an admirable job here, and have kept a cool head as well, even when being drilled (which is fair.) Now you've been attacked, and you continue to respond with dignity. Anyway, good job, and thank you for putting in the effort for the CPF community.

LEDburn, I've been in your shoes before. Just cool down a bit before resoponding. Keep it constructive and stop condemning other people's opinions...that never goes over well. If you think someone's opinion is wrong then let them be wrong. I'm sure you have some opinions that don't line up with everyone elses. Accusing Knight Light of working in disguise is crossing the line, and takes away from the good spirit found here at cpf. He's doing you and me a service, and his previous posts proves well enough to me that he is just a cpf fan like you & me.

Carry on.

I appreciate your acknowledgments because my motives from the start were really to be helpful. As far as this review being hard work, I knew what I was getting myself into that’s why I designed this review as ongoing. So that I can do it in pieces with a mixture of facts and opinions, I also separated the fact section from the opinion section so that those that don’t subscribe to my point of view can still get an accurate impression of the product based strictly on fact. I did all of this because I know that to be excited about a certain product and being the 1st​ to actually buy the product can be an unnerving experience.

It’s also been rewarding to do this review because I was able to participate and contribute to the design process. Remember I was sent a prototype unit so some of the quirks in the UI as well as additional things I felt the product needed improvement on I worked with Armytek to improve the product for you guys. Some of my suggestions were implemented others were discarded.

As far as your panty fetish there is not much I can help you with, there are probably other forums to discuss that. :nana:

 

[ArcticHighlander]

Knight Light, I too appreciate your hard work in reviewing this light. I bought one as a result. But I don't see how you can directly compare the Armytek LED lumen specs to the OTF lumen specs on the Zebralights as though both were providing equivalent information. LED lumen measurents will always be significantly higher than the OTF measurements. The Zebralight H600 specs are also based on a lessor 2900 mAh battery than the Armytek. Armytek does need to provide OTF lumen measurements and they did say they plan to do so soon when they explained how their measurements were made. I hope they do do so soon.

 

[Lampyridae]

I hope this test is going on, no matter what, because I'm looking forward to see 18650B's result on Turbo mode. Not because of few minutes more, but because I think temperature shoud rise enough to activate thermal protection. With 18650A testing in Turbo mode, Knight_light reached 55°C before Critical level dropped the light to firefly mode, but still did not activate thermal protection. Is thermal protection going to activate before it reaches 60°C, wihich is discharge limit for 18650B according to specs? Wizzard Pro already knows which battery is inside 'cause we told it... :popcorn:

 

[Knight_Light]

Knight Light, I too appreciate your hard work in reviewing this light. I bought one as a result. But I don't see how you can directly compare the Armytek LED lumen specs to the OTF lumen specs on the Zebralights as though both were providing equivalent information. LED lumen measurents will always be significantly higher than the OTF measurements. The Zebralight H600 specs are also based on a lessor 2900 mAh battery than the Armytek. Armytek does need to provide OTF lumen measurements and they did say they plan to do so soon when they explained how their measurements were made. I hope they do do so soon.

Thank you for acknowledging my efforts. What are your impressions of the light? If we put aside my opinions of the review and focus just on the 1st​ part of the review (which is factual in nature) is there anything that is not accurate or misleading?

I appreciate the OTF argument, I even agree with it. That is one of the reasons why I never made any claims to measured figures when it came to lumens and just stated that I was going with the manufacturer’s claims. There are other more technical based reviews that will follow that will give accurate numbers to this. My reviews are geared towards long-term use and long-term impressions of a particular product. Having said that, and having both lights the perceived respective output levels are fairly similar. Remember I made no comparisons in the 1st​ part of the review to any other light, all I did was state confirmed runtime tests at the specified levels (and my results differ from Armytek, keep that in mind).

As far as the differences between 2900 vs. 3100 battery it would probably be fairly negligible somewhere around 5%. You can definitely see the difference between 3100 and 3400 as only being 7.5 or so percent.

 

[Lincoln1]

Thank you for acknowledging my efforts. What are your impressions of the light? If we put aside my opinions of the review and focus just on the 1st​ part of the review (which is factual in nature) is there anything that is not accurate or misleading?

I appreciate the OTF argument, I even agree with it. That is one of the reasons why I never made any claims to measured figures when it came to lumens and just stated that I was going with the manufacturer’s claims. There are other more technical based reviews that will follow that will give accurate numbers to this. My reviews are geared towards long-term use and long-term impressions of a particular product. Having said that, and having both lights the perceived respective output levels are fairly similar. Remember I made no comparisons in the 1st​ part of the review to any other light, all I did was state confirmed runtime tests at the specified levels (and my results differ from Armytek, keep that in mind).

As far as the differences between 2900 vs. 3100 battery it would probably be fairly negligible somewhere around 5%. You can definitely see the difference between 3100 and 3400 as only being 7.5 or so percent.

Big thumbs up to you. First post on CPF but been a lurker for some time. As a complete noob to the world of flashlights I was in search of a headlamp and stumbled onto this thread. Your very thorough review of the Wizard was very helpful swaying me to my first purchase. I love it. As an electrician who spends many an hour crawling through attics and whatnot it is definitely be a big step up from the dollar store specials I'm used to. Just thought you should know your work is greatly appreciated. Ps I can see this could be addictive as i already wanna collect more lights.

cheers

 

[spelunkik]

Knight_Light, I also want to thank you for your very thorough review. Your review of the many positive qualities of the Wizard Pro, in conjunction with an exceptional sale they had during the 4th of July, caused me to buy one. I must admit that I did not realize Armytek was using theoretical values instead of OTF values, which is a small letdown for me. Nevertheless, it still seems to be a rock-solid light with an XM-L2 inside, so I am excited about my purchase, and excited to try it out! I am a hardcore caver, and I suspect the Wizard Pro will make an excellent addition to my headlamp arsenal. I already own a Zebralight H600w, so hopefully I'll be able to post some comparative beamshots next week for everyone. I realize it's a completely different tint, but perhaps pictures will still be useful for benchmarking beam characteristics. Thanks again Knight_Light!

 

[Knight_Light]

Big thumbs up to you. First post on CPF but been a lurker for some time. As a complete noob to the world of flashlights I was in search of a headlamp and stumbled onto this thread. Your very thorough review of the Wizard was very helpful swaying me to my first purchase. I love it. As an electrician who spends many an hour crawling through attics and whatnot it is definitely be a big step up from the dollar store specials I'm used to. Just thought you should know your work is greatly appreciated. Ps I can see this could be addictive as i already wanna collect more lights.

cheers

Welcome to CPF and thank you for the support. I think the Armytek wizard Pro is a great 1st​ experience. Get yourself some good quality unprotected 18650 batteries along with a good charger like the VP1 from xtar and you are all set. And yes this hobby does get addicting, but any hobby that makes life a little bit easier or maybe even in some circumstances save a life is okay by me. :)