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Hi all, I haven't followed the thread for a long time, but I was excited when I first heard about the wizard, I had just bought a zebra h600w before the release of the wizard. My h600w is currently been repaired due to not switching off after been used in high mode for a minute or two and it's really hardly had any use.... As luck would have it it's still under its short guarantee.

I am still very very tempted with a neutral wizard, but I'm slightly hesitant after reading there have been some problems. Now unfortunately I haven't at the moment got the time to go through all the thread and would really appreciate if some body could just bullet point the faults that have been surfacing with the wizard....... I will when I get the chance go through the thread.

If possible could you also tell me through experience how long it would handle been on the 500 ish lumen setting before it needs to step down due to heat etc.

I read they may be a 1.5 version, but no release date as such. Just wondering if I should hold fire.

Thank you wuyang
 
Tulip bush said:
Hi all, I haven't followed the thread for a long time, but I was excited when I first heard about the wizard, I had just bought a zebra h600w before the release of the wizard. My h600w is currently been repaired due to not switching off after been used in high mode for a minute or two and it's really hardly had any use.... As luck would have it it's still under its short guarantee.

I am still very very tempted with a neutral wizard, but I'm slightly hesitant after reading there have been some problems. Now unfortunately I haven't at the moment got the time to go through all the thread and would really appreciate if some body could just bullet point the faults that have been surfacing with the wizard....... I will when I get the chance go through the thread.

If possible could you also tell me through experience how long it would handle been on the 500 ish lumen setting before it needs to step down due to heat etc.

I read they may be a 1.5 version, but no release date as such. Just wondering if I should hold fire.

Thank you wuyang
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The problems were with the first production run.
These were rectified with software 'fix' a short time later. I bought one with the software fix and I'm very happy with it. As far as I know there have been NO reports of issues since the fix.

With the software fix, they also upped the temperature at which stepdown happens(and lumens of stepdown) and a few other things I can't remember. I've run mine on the 500 Lumens mode for about an hour with no stepdown. It gets quite warm, but not hot, although if the ambient temperature was 20 or 30deg C, the light would get warmer.
 
Cheers MattSPL. Really tempted to get one, nice to know the problems are sorted. I've only found one dealer in the uk that sells them and the prices are rocket high......will have to check if his stock have had the software fix....if not I'm tempted to import...think armytek ship from china so I might hopefully avoid duty etc.....I've never imported before.
 
Pm sent.
I import most things these days as I just can't get what I want here in Ireland. I guess the population of 4 million doesn't give much market for niche products like flashlights and decent hifi equipment that i'm into.

Cheers
Matt
 
Tulip bush said:
Cheers MattSPL. Really tempted to get one, nice to know the problems are sorted. I've only found one dealer in the uk that sells them and the prices are rocket high......will have to check if his stock have had the software fix....if not I'm tempted to import...think armytek ship from china so I might hopefully avoid duty etc.....I've never imported before.
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You probably should also subscribe to the CPF Marketplace thread (separate registration required if you haven't already joined). There is quite a bit of talk about version releases but no concrete information from Armytek at this time.

http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?288932-Armytek-wizard/page14
 
Tulip bush said:
Cheers MattSPL. Really tempted to get one, nice to know the problems are sorted. I've only found one dealer in the uk that sells them and the prices are rocket high......will have to check if his stock have had the software fix....if not I'm tempted to import...think armytek ship from china so I might hopefully avoid duty etc.....I've never imported before.
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Problems fixed, really!?
What about the guys who are still waiting to get their lights back from Armytek after sending a faulty light back or simply getting the firmware updated and what about the lack of information as to what was actually changed?

I have a Predator Pro and love it so don't get me wrong I do support the company, I really wish they had waited to release the Wizard as I have read too many negative things which have turned me off it.
Releasing a flawed light in an attempt to rival an industry leader is just foolish and as luck would have it, more people have probably been turned off the brand as a whole thanks to their lack of testing and quality control.

Buy a Zebralight if you simply want THE best headlamp available..
 
LEDburn said:
Buy a Zebralight if you simply want THE best headlamp available..
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I couldn't have said it better myself! As frustrated as I am about having to wait for ZL to release the cool white versions of the H600F and H52F as well as the all new H302/H32/H32F, at least they aren't rushing them to market before sufficient testing and hell, even in the 11th hour, Zebralight made a last minute change in the high mode of the H600 Mark II to satisfy the public backlash of there not being a 100ish lumen level. That is the sign of a company that is doing it right. Armytek could and should learn from them!
 
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LEDburn said:
Problems fixed, really!?
What about the guys who are still waiting to get their lights back from Armytek after sending a faulty light back or simply getting the firmware updated and what about the lack of information as to what was actually changed?

I have a Predator Pro and love it so don't get me wrong I do support the company, I really wish they had waited to release the Wizard as I have read too many negative things which have turned me off it.
Releasing a flawed light in an attempt to rival an industry leader is just foolish and as luck would have it, more people have probably been turned off the brand as a whole thanks to their lack of testing and quality control.

Buy a Zebralight if you simply want THE best headlamp available..
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The problems are fixed. My Wizard pro is a great light with no issues.
The people still waiting on their lights are the ones waiting on a V1.5 software light to be ready. This will have greater flexibility with mode changing as far as I know, but I like the way the current Wizard pro is now.

One thing though, I agree Armytek should have better explained/displayed which lights had which software or revisions etc.
 
Hi

Im a big fan of Zebralight for a long time and Armytek Wizard Pro Wide has caught my attention so Im looking to get one. This thread is so long and I want to ask the Armytek Wizard Pro Wide from GoingGear is that a new version or is it still have some bugs. Please let me know

Thanks
Nick
 
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Good morning, i'm new and my name is Alan and i come form Italy, sorry for my english...
I just bought my first headlamp, an Armytek wizard pro warm and jesterday i try the armytek in a night excursion.
During the excursion I turned on the flashlight initially at 28 lumen and after 5 minutes of operation at 107 lumen. After about 15-20minutes of use I noticed that the main LED has made some flash but unfortunately I could not count ... the battery was not charging at all, I loaded the other night and i make some test in the last two days.. but not intensive.
I removed the torch from the head and I noticed that the LED on the power button flashed 3 times in a row and it was red .. unfortunately I did not have the manual with me .. but the torch was not hot , infact it was freezing so I thought about the low battery even though it seemed strange. I changed the battery (i have another battery eagletac 3400mAh with me) and I left at the level of 28 lumens .. after about 10 minutes the new flashes that unfortunately I could not count but the LED on the power button 3 times and it was always flashing red. I did not want to risk to remain in the dark, soi returned at home.
In the return i noticed two flashing ad the 28 lumen level and stop. In the last 30 minutes i increase the level at 515 lumen for test and i had no problem.
At home i measured the Voltage of the batteries and one is 4,03V and the other 4,05V. So don't empty. The headlamp was freeze, only in 515lumen level was a bit warm.. The temperature is not the problem for me..
Unfortunately I could not count the flashing of the main led.. but only the flashing of the Color-Led: 3 times and the led was red. From the manual of armytek i see that the 3 times flash of the color led is a temperature warning, i'm wrong?
During the excursion i dont' control the Voltage level with the flashing method, but one hour later at home the Voltage of the flashing corresponded with the voltage of the multimeter.
At home i've made some test ad 515 lumen and in the other levels, andthe wizard works great.
Theonly thing diferent is the working temperature: ad home was 20-23°C and during the excursion was 0 or -1 °C..

Can you help me?

Thank you very much and sorry form my english.

Alan from Italy
 
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Too cold for the battery? Try it on high for a minute to warm it up and then drop it down to 28 lumens.
 
Thank you for the answer! I wrote directly to armytek, i wait an answer of technical support.
0°C or -1°C seems not too cold.. Today i leave the wizard out of the window (+3°C) and no problem.
Do you thik that the wizard needs to warm up before the use?
I hope not because when i go excursion in the snow the temperature is almost always colder than 0°C... :shakehead
 
I live in Florida where it is 80-90 F quite often so I never have your particular problem dealing with the cold. 32F doesn't seem like it would affect the performance as that's not very cold. I do recall reading about this problem (in one of the Armytek threads (maybe over on the CPF Marketplace Armytek section?)) though but I thought it was much colder temperatures that were causing the temperature sensor to shut off the light until it warmed up.
 
RI Chevy said:
Alan from Italy! Buon Giorno

Welcome to the Forum! :welcome:
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Thank You very much!


Beacon of Light: Thank you for your opinion. I'll do a search in CPF Marketplace. The user manual specifies that the 3 times Flashing of the Color led indicates the level of temperature and it must happen with the 5 flashing of the main led.. but unfortunately i could not count the number of flasching of the main led. But 3 times flashing of the color led in red indicate that the temperature increase to 75°-80°.. and is impossible.

Alan
 
Mine flashes on me sometimes in temperatures around that range or just a little bit colder, so I'm not too surprised. I don't know if it's to be expected, but it's definitely happened to me as well. However, I have noticed that it seems to last plenty long after it flashes (so far), and sometimes it only flashes a couple times and then never does it again for the rest of the night. So perhaps it warmed up over time and then didn't have any problems? Either way I will be interested to hear more about what you learn.
 
Hi!
I recive an answer from Armytek and the situation was clarified.
This is the explanation:
" 1. The temperature -20C decreases the voltage of 18650 Li-Ion battery to 2.5-2.6V.
2. The headlamp tries to check if the battery can give proper LED current for an actual mode. If it's impossible, LED current will be lower, and the higher modes should be removed temporarily. Main LED flashes 3 times. Color LED flashes 3 times.
3. When the battery is heated up and the voltage increases to 3V then the modes will work as usual.

When you have this situation, it is better to switch on maximal modes to heat up the battery and return normal condition of voltage for the headlamp. It is possible for Pro models with boost or buck-boost drivers."

In my excursion is not so cold (-20°), but perhaps -3°C or -5°C.. When i returned at home, i used the levels 235 lumen and the 515 lumen, and i had no problems.. The wizard probabily warmed up and the problem did not occur. Now the wizard works great in my office at 20°C.. two days of tests and no problems!
 
What turn around time are people seeing on repairs from Armytek this year? I expect things to break but need them repaired in a reasonable and predictable time.
 
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