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Another day in the 2020 pandemic in the US and it feels strangely normal. Not the so-called new normal some are touting. Just normal in the sense where people around me have adapted. At my work as one deemed essential worker we were all walking around in a slight daze trying to understand why are we all in a daze. Everybody I talked to said something was off but they just couldn't put their finger on what that was. This week so far we all seemed to have shaken that daze.

I figured out this morning it may have largely been like being in Japan near the end of WW2 and all the doom and gloom reporting was like the allies dropping leaflets across Japan warning of an incoming bombing campaign. Yeah, the bombs they dropped, and dropped, and dropped. But not on our little slice of the planet. Wounded are still die-ing, fall out is still making people sick, sure. But it's where the bombs dropped day after day for 3 weeks. Is the war over? Probably not. Actually far from it is more likely. But we're not scared anymore.

The routines are becoming normal for now. No baseball, no Formula 1, no soccer. For now. There's talk of school again this fall, and football too. There's talk of things in the not so distant future. Many no longer feel guilty for wearing a dust mask now that the hospitals where the most bombs are still falling have a bunch. Same with latex gloves. The frozen pizza section in the grocery stores are still empty. Toilet paper too. But the trash pickup continues like normal and the morning paper is still being delivered.

Looking at the numbers this morning there are positive trends all across the spectrum. Yet for whatever reason yesterday was a bad day all over the world. Spain, Italy, US, Germany, you name it. New cases spiked. Just like the models predicted. The blitzkrieg called covid-19 had a great day yesterday. But many of us feel a lot more at ease knowing it's days of winning are near the end. It isn't time to become complacent, nor a time to panic. It's a time to keep washing your hands, stay as far away from strangers as practical and keep enjoying this life on planet earth.
 
Thanks Stu.

Thought of red yesterday when I saw the guy on the right attach a tiny camera to the hubble telescope lens.
Then look at the guy in the back.
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Is the guy on the right taking close ups of ants crawling up the wall or something?
 
HAHA! He's definitely guilty of the "...now I need to go buy a camera for my lens"
 
i hate the term new normal. I believe the virus is a threat to be taken seriously, but we also have to be careful how much power we give away. What we give to the governments of the world likely won’t be given back.


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i hate the term new normal. I believe the virus is a threat to be taken seriously, but we also have to be careful how much power we give away. What we give to the governments of the world likely won’t be given back.


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Exactly, government is a power hungry out of control entity.
 
Melitta just started face mask production over here. Unknown if Classic, Gourmet Intense...types will be available.
 
My brother's daughter (my niece) is an ER nurse in a big hospital in Central NJ. Her experience in taking patient histories, and speaking with the doctors, has them thinking that this virus is air borne. That is frightening. My brother has had 80 hours of bio-hazmat training and has spent 200 hours in hazmat gear, made these recommendations to us as family members.

Stay home
If you do go out, dress in layers, with the outermost layer a rain suit.
Take your outer layer off, outside.
Wear a mask
Wear a face shield, or at least glasses. or goggles.
Don't bring your shoes into the house.

When you come inside, take your daily shower.

Don't go food shopping, but rather have it delivered, other than to go to a farmer's market.
Leave food outside the house for a few days, and or disinfect it before you bring it into the house.

Certainly... all good advice.

All the while we have been told that the way the virus spreads is by direct contact.
Secondarily, by "fomites" (A fomite or fomes is any inanimate object that, when contaminated with or exposed to infectious agents, can transfer disease to a new host)

More than one expert has said the virus can not get through your skin, but if it is on your skin, and you touch your face (actually mucus membranes of your nose, mouth, or eyes) then you can get infected.

Therefore if one is careful about not touching his face, and frequently washes is hands, he she should not get infected, (unless he gets sneezed or coughed on).

Then there was a study that stated a cough or sneeze may expel moisture particles 21 feet. The results were minimized.
Yesterday, was the first time that I heard an expert epidemiologist mention that there are three ways to transmit this disease.
1. direct contact
2. fomites.
3. coughing or sneezing where larger droplets fall out of the air quickly, within a few feet, but smaller droplets, even vapor may remain in the air (like a cloud) for a few hours. Have you ever seen your breath during the winter? Or see spittle come from someone's mouth while excitedly talking?

Is it airborne, and they are not telling us? I wouldn't be surprised.

Keep your distance, stay safe.
 
Melitta just started face mask production over here. Unknown if Classic, Gourmet Intense...types will be available.
That's interesting.
Just yesterday I held one to my face to see how difficult it would be to breath through one.

I forget the numbers, but virus particles are smaller than typical pore size of paper coffee filters. Still the pore size of coffee filters is much smaller than any cotton cloth.
 
I forget the numbers, but virus particles are smaller than typical pore size of paper coffee filters. Still the pore size of coffee filters is much smaller than any cotton cloth.

Scale-wise, if a singular coronavirus is the size of a person, a red blood cell is the size of a sports stadium; the mask is just there to catch moisture droplets coming out of you so that those can't transmit anything.
 
Scale-wise, if a singular coronavirus is the size of a person, a red blood cell is the size of a sports stadium; the mask is just there to catch moisture droplets coming out of you so that those can't transmit anything.
Why don't you say what you are trying to say?
"a red blood cell is the size of a sports stadium" , you know: "Ice Cream has no bones" and "neither has anything to do with the cost of butter!"

Coffee filters are designed to allow Water to Flow Through them. Certainly moisture, or vapor can easily pass.

The point I was trying to make, is that they will not stop the flow of virus in either direction, but the smaller pores of coffee filters will be better at stopping anything than a piece of cloth.

Don't interpret my statement above to think I want to discredit the use of any kind of mask. Anything is better than nothing in trying to reduce the velocity, distance and amount of virus that may be spread with a cough, sneeze, or simply breathing.
 
Here are the numbers I didn't memorize.


The COVID-19 virus is approximately 0.125 Micron or 125 nanometers in diameter. (
However, it often travels in biological aerosols from coughing and sneezing which range in size from 0.5-3 Micron.
HEPA stands for High Efficiency Particulate Air and is a filtration rating that captures microbes, dust, and particulates down to 0.3 Micron.

while coffee filters are designed to filter coffee, but with a typical pore size of 20 microns (or micrometers), they are not a particularly good filter in general.

If you do the math, the pores of the typical coffee filter are 160 times as large as a corona 19 virus.
 
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+1 ^^
Shopping today i saw a young pregnant mother wearing a nice washable mask, face shield, rubber gloves, and hoodie..

Like you said Poppy, the gal was well protected from Covid droplets flying from an instant sneeze, or from lingering airbore micro spit for hours afterwards
 
This thread makes me want to get back into weightlifting. I don’t know how the arthritic spine and exploded elbow would handle any type of power lifting but just moving weight would be nice and very therapeutic.
 
Are you sure she wasn't there to rob the place KG?

I considered cutting up one of my home hepa filters at one point.

Joggers and folks performing things that make them breath harder should stay farther apart than 6 feet.

I had to keep reminding my young trainee to stay away. One of those youngsters used to automatic everything and phone apps to start the microwave. No concept of this whole notion that life is entirely different right now, for everybody including him. I asked him if his girlfriend has to remind him to lift the toilet seat or does he have an app for that too? I told him tomorrow I will bring a doggy shock collar and zap his dum*** everytime he gets within 10 feet of me. Hated to be that guy, ……well actually I really kinda enjoyed it. lol

Isometrics are your friend right now burley.
 
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