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With the cdc logic bb my dad died of a head cold.
His body was failing and there was a race to see which organ failure proved fatal. He was very ill at the end.

A head cold caused complications that caused his heart to stop. It was listed as heart failure not rino-virus.

It makes me wonder if the cdc is doing this as a future research tactic or if something else is taking place to boost numbers for some other purpose. Not wanting to go the conspiracy route this AM but will say I do not trust the government be it local, state or federal.
 
With the cdc logic bb my dad died of a head cold.
His body was failing and there was a race to see which organ failure proved fatal. He was very ill at the end.

A head cold caused complications that caused his heart to stop. It was listed as heart failure not rino-virus.

It makes me wonder if the cdc is doing this as a future research tactic or if something else is taking place to boost numbers for some other purpose. Not wanting to go the conspiracy route this AM but will say I do not trust the government be it local, state or federal.
Man sorry to hear. Its crazy to hear that a common cold took out the old man.

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I couldn’t believe this was a fact, and I’ve mentioned it in the thread. I’m not sure that the car wreck analogy works great here, surely it doesn’t go to that extent. Also If you are working an ER and have 400 people come in and some of them die of unknown respiratory problems during a pandemic I guess it would just be easier to go ahead and say they died of the pandemic that is going on. It’s still odd that the CDC has recommended reporting a covid death based off a hunch and there is no excuse for it. I’ve seen a few cases of families suing because their loved ones died of something other than covid yet it is on their death certificate.
Ya, the car wreck analogy is a bit of a stretch. But that's all it was an"analogy" but that doesn't deter from the fact that the numbers of covid death are now tainted with false information. Everyone thinks that we've got our peak and the numbers are on the decline, but that's not true. They cannot use the previous counting protocol anymore. The numbers we see over the next few weeks will be the real numbers. And it's going to be far less than what is has been.
 
Two things; one, your citation does not effectively support your list of allegations; and two, while the first part of your shout is in a grey area, the second is not - take it to the CPF Underground.
Final notice.
[emoji106] got it bud.
 
Restrictional update for Germany is out now and valid until further notice.

Key points are:

Small shops up to 800 square meters, all book stores and mobility dealers/repairs (cars, bikes...) are allowed to re-open from 04.20.20, next Monday.

Schools, bars, restaurants...stay closed at least until May third.

Larger events such as concerts, festivals, football matches with audience...to stay prohibited at least until August.

All other regulations, especially those regarding social distancing stay valid.

Short hours „0“ to end for me next Monday too...:sick2:

Cheers

RBR
 
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Got my stimulus check today; it was direct deposit and not in paper form, so there was no need to edit the memo section of the check.

I wouldn't go that far regarding churches. There is nothing wrong with the ones having services online.

I'm referring specifically to the ones still holding standard indoor congregations in person; the churches doing it safely should not only continue doing so but should expand their services in that direction, there's probably a lot of people right now who could use the communal help.

Small shops up to 800 square meters, all book stores and mobility dealers/repairs (cars, bikes...) are allowed to re-open from 04.20.20, next Monday.

That's odd, you're more likely to have to stand closer to people in small shoppes, and they're less likely to follow safety rules. Our car service places were only closed for roughly the first week and have been open since.

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Now that is funny!
 
My governor just announced things will begin to relax May 8. :)

He elluded to masks being part of the scenery for a while. He used the term "new normal", which probably has a lot of folks wondering what that means. I envision a 500 person capacity Golden Corral being held to 100, bars that could hold 250 being held to 100. Firing ranges held to 50% capacity, stuff like that.

Irony is if I went to Wal Mart to buy Mrs Fixer a valentines gift with a mask on they'd boot me out. If I go there for a Mothers Day gift without one I may get booted out.
 
Our Gub said same "new normal" things such as restaurant tables being set 6ft apart and throw away menues.. What he did not mention are events like our State Fairs could possibly be a thing of the past, at least for 2020 anyway
 
Y'all are lucky you're states are getting ready to relax, my gov is planning on extended the shelter in place order, it's complete nonsense
 
That's interesting that if you look at the trend history of the term "new normal", it logically jumps up in the middle of last month:
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..but then if you look at why it's as high as it is now, it's just the most rural outlying areas that are only now searching the term:
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We're so divided in our approach to this pandemic that we don't even use the same words at the same time when speaking of it. :(
 
We were all bracing for ours to extend it from June to August Fish. This morning on the radio his health director said and I quote "we're seeing models out of China saying we will have a spike in August". But the governor surprised us by not doing that.
He has certain areas closed until June 10 and had a stay at home order expiring next week. He extended that for two more weeks. But being we are still getting about a 10% rise each day it aint such a bad idea to most I've talked to. We are on the right side of the curve now about a week ahead of schedule. But most are cautious and rightly so in my view. We were all breathing a sigh of relief when he did not extend business closures until August.

Another surprise is the new charts and graphs show affected areas by categories. What I mean there is it shows cases in places like schools, long care facilities etc and gives a better breakdown of regions. I had been following regions through news accounts but the new graphs make it easy to see where it spreads the most. Heavily populated areas of course.

Another surprise in my state anyway is that women have been affected a lot more than men. I surmize that to mean nurses. Don't know about other places but most of my state has way more female nurses than male. Same with teachers who according to the numbers here have been hit pretty hard too. Schools have been closed for a while now yet teachers are still getting it a lot. Perhaps they reported to the building after the kids were sent home?

We're just glad to see the light at the end of the tunnel isn't the corona-19 express. I hope this post did not come off as political 'cause I sure didn't mean for it to.
 
StarHalo- Why would you have had to edit the memo section of your stimulus check?

To remove superfluous data not related to the check or payment process itself, as only a civil servant can be an authorized signer for disbursements issued by the Treasury Department to ensure that government payments are nonpartisan.

In other news; TAKE THAT, ESTABLISHMENT:
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@fixer, it just sucks for us business owners for the stay at home order to be extended. I've had my shop closed for the past 3 weeks and my workers are all in paid leave as of now. I just don't know how much longer I can afford to keep paying my staff. I am not receiving any government aid because I don't want to have to pay the taxes next year.
 
StarHalo- Sec. Mnuchin said if you really want to pursue the triggered moral high ground you can contact the treasury for instructions on how to return the money. You just can't help yourself, can you?
 
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