Coronavirus - II

[bykfixer]

 

[RedLED]

People need to go back to work. We need to provide for our families. There's no such thing as free money. The cost of continuing the shelter will be devastating.

This will be a long nightmare. I lost several hundred-thousand dollars in billing faster than you can say Dr. Fauci. Gone, and these were scheduled years out with advance trips to the locations.

 

[Poppy]

This will be a long nightmare. I lost several hundred-thousand dollars in billing faster than you can say Dr. Fauci. Gone, and these were scheduled years out with advance trips to the locations.

Yes Red,
I am sorry for your losses.
Certainly there are many small mom, and pop businesses, whose losses may be much less, but just as devastating, or even more to them.

Except for those who have been able to continue to work, or found that they can work from home, and hope that they will be allowed to continue to do so, this has been, and will continue to be a devastating conundrum.

It may be a time that some of us change careers.

We are going through an event that will certainly go down in the history books.
Perhaps as an expert photographer, you might consider creating a photographic account of this time in history.

True, it may not pay what you are accustomed to and the book may end up on the Barnes and Noble discount table, but one never knows.

 

[ven]

apple update in UK today IOS13.5. Now takes straight to pass code saving seconds, if detects you wearing a mask. The little things in life and all that:)

 

[Lynx_Arc]

I hear they are coming out with a new TV series..... The Covid Ranger....... and the people say: who wasn't that masked man?

 

[archimedes]

Nineteen Eighty-Four telescreen technology, now here in twenty twenty ....

 

[knucklegary]

The view inland isn't bad either!! :twothumbs

Am i the only person who has noticed how clean the air has become since the lock down?
Not to provoke global warming pros or cons, but lately the air is so clean i can taste the brine

(-;

 

[scout24]

Beautiful pics, KG..

 

[bykfixer]

Ok so mask requirements are being discussed everywhere.
Some of the data comes from hamsters being tested in China.

Two cages with hamsters. One cage sprayed with lots of droplets. One with a few droplets.
More hamsters got sick in the cage with more infected droplets.

What that tells me? Hamsters get covid-19 too.

 

[knucklegary]

Thanks Scout, Upper photo is Dave's hood in Espania, I'm guessing around San Sebastian?

Lower photo is my home Manresa beach, CA..

A few weeks ago we had our first great white shark attack about 100 yards south, to the left of photo

Needless to say this beach is closed, 2 klicks in either direction

If Cvd19 hasn't been enough, this certainly dampens my future water time.. Only point breaks for me at looow tides

 

[ven]

There is another way of looking at it Mike, wearing a mask, even if it gives 60% or 70% protection(read somewhere). Depending how much of the covid you get(breath in or swallow or? ), does effect how ill you get. So a small dose of covid could mean you get rough for a week. Large dose could mean a lot worse. I remember reading about it, a scientist so of course who knows exactly. I wear a mask, simply to protect others. I would be happier if others did the same to protect me. If i walk into it in an isle, or someone coughs on me, with a mask i will get limited protection. So in my thinking, i should get less of the virus to start with, hopefully not be as ill from it. Could be completely wrong, but thats my thinking so far on it.

Stay safe , hope you all have a great weekend ahead CPF

 

[bykfixer]

With all of this mask or no mask discussion nobody is noticing that nobody is talking about eye covering when statistics over the years shows folks who wear glasses get less colds and flu than those who don't.

The eyeball a wonderful place for a virus to get in. While the experts tout making laws based on the air hamsters breath being sprayed with droplets they are really leaving an uneducated population feeling secure even though two large parts of the face are unprotected all too often.
If you think you need a face covering then you should also wear eye covering.

 

[Dave D]

Upper photo is Dave's hood in Espania, I'm guessing around San Sebastian?

Too cold for me up there! LOL

Malaga Province on the Mediterranean coast, the photo with the sea has Malaga City centre right.

 

[P_A_S_1]

Am i the only person who has noticed how clean the air has become since the lock down?
Not to provoke global warming pros or cons, but lately the air is so clean i can taste the brine

(-;

Yep. That and the lack of traffic are the two good things from this mess. I hate driving and traffic but now it's a breeze.

 

[ven]

With all of this mask or no mask discussion nobody is noticing that nobody is talking about eye covering when statistics over the years shows folks who wear glasses get less colds and flu than those who don't.

The eyeball a wonderful place for a virus to get in. While the experts tout making laws based on the air hamsters breath being sprayed with droplets they are really leaving an uneducated population feeling secure even though two large parts of the face are unprotected all too often.
If you think you need a face covering then you should also wear eye covering.

Very good point, i wear safety specs to which add to the pita. I still think a full face screen is the best choice as nothing is getting through the plastic/perspex . Yes around maybe, but a mask worn with, should help reduce significantly further.

 

[Poppy]

Masks or not?

There is so much banter about masks, and most of it wrong.

1. cloth face masks, will NOT protect the wearer!
2. paper surgical masks, will NOT protect the wearer.
3. N95 masks will NOT protect the wearer IF IT IS NOT PROPERLY SEALED (worn with a tight fit)
4. even respirator masks will NOT protect the wearer IF IT IS NOT PROPERLY SEALED!

I believe that much of what we are told, or NOT told, is to control the masses.
1. N95 masks are in short supply, and are needed for important people... our front line workers.
2. If the masses were constantly informed that ONLY N95 masks can protect them, they would be in shorter supply than they are, and at 10 times the price.
3. Although some politicians, are honest about the home made, or surgical masks, that they are to protect OTHERS, most don't stress, that point.
3 a. I think that MANY people think the use of a mask protects themselves too, and THAT is why we have such compliance in their use.
b. Most people do not pay attention to detail, therefore they do not understand that the cloth mask or surgical mask will NOT protect them. In a way, that is a good thing, because in their ignorance they are reducing the spread of the virus to other people, should they be a carrier.

Initially we were told that it is NOT AIRborne.
Later an expert here or there would let it slip that it is Aerosolized. (I think that is the same thing, but sounds less frightening)
Now they admit that it IS Aerosolized, and once in a while I've heard an expert start to say that it is airborne, and catch him/herself and change the word to aerosolized.

A month ago, I posted what my brother told us how we should dress and protect ourselves.
One of the things was to wear eye protection, preferably goggles.

A week or two ago, there was a person, ( I think he was an MD) who traveled on a airplane, wearing a N95 mask, and gloves. He contracted covid. During the interview, he stated that he thinks it got in through his eyes, from the air.

 

[Poppy]

When I go food shopping, I go at 6:00 AM during seniors hour.
I wear a respirator mask.
It is uncomfortable, and stresses me a little because it requires a forced inspiration.
I breath ... In In huh, In In huh, In In huh, as though I was out for a jog.

I don't wear goggles, but I do wear glasses.

I take my shoes off outside, and my outer shirt or jacket.
Leave that covid shi# outside.
I then take my morning shower.

When the store is very empty, I might undo the bottom strap, and allow the rubber nose/mouth cup to have a looser fit.
I noticed that as I walked through the soap isle, I could smell the soap. I pushed the mouth cup into my face for a tighter fit, and the smell was instantly gone.

If you are wearing a mask of any type, and can smell anything other than your breath, it is NOT protecting YOU!

Here is my brother's recommendation posted in the original coronavirus thread:

My brother has had 80 hours of bio-hazmat training and has spent 200 hours in hazmat gear, made these recommendations to us as family members.

Stay home
If you do go out, dress in layers, with the outermost layer a rain suit.
Take your outer layer off, outside.
Wear a mask
Wear a face shield, or at least glasses. or goggles.
Don't bring your shoes into the house.

When you come inside, take your daily shower.

Don't go food shopping, but rather have it delivered, other than to go to a farmer's market.
Leave food outside the house for a few days, and or disinfect it before you bring it into the house.

Certainly... all good advice.

 

[PhotonWrangler]

UK researchers have discovered that severely ill Covid-10 patients have extremely low T-cell counts. There are not sure why yet, however there is an established treatment for low T-cells in other disorders - Interleukin 7. There's a group that's going to test this idea with Covid patients.

 

[Poppy]

UK researchers have discovered that severely ill Covid-10 patients have extremely low T-cell counts. There are not sure why yet, however there is an established treatment for low T-cells in other disorders - Interleukin 7. There's a group that's going to test this idea with Covid patients.

I'd be interested to know... which came first, the chicken or the egg.
If you follow this, please keep us updated.
Thanks

 

[raggie33]

Here is free advice trust your doctor before a politician. Dont take any meds unless your doctor tell you to take them