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Common human coronaviruses


  • 229E (alpha coronavirus)
  • NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
  • OC43 (beta coronavirus)
  • HKU1 (beta coronavirus)
Other human coronaviruses


  • MERS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, or MERS)
  • SARS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS)
  • SARS-CoV2 (the novel coronavirus that causes coronavirus disease 2019, or COVID-19)
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People around the world commonly get infected with human coronaviruses 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1.
Sometimes coronaviruses that infect animals can evolve and make people sick and become a new human coronavirus. Three recent examples of this are 2019-nCoV, SARS-CoV, and MERS-CoV.

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With the many coronavirus' in the wild, what is the possibility that the exact Covid-19 is detected when 'there is another case in.....'
One has to ask if there are false positives on number of the exact covid effecting.

CDC is not doing every single test from Anywhere USA
 
harro said:
I’d also heard alcohol is very effective, single malt, imbibed, allow time to work, and repeat if necessary........

Another example of hysteria here, the F1 GP cancelled, and very nearly as quickly, F1 drivers spotted at Tullamarine ( Melbourne/Vic/Aus ) airport clamouring for the pointy end of the nearest 787 out.

At least poor old GW, GFC, SARS, EBOLA, and what ever else you can think of, are getting a rest for the time being.
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When I drank a lot of booze I never got sick. The time shortly after I went sober things fell apart for a while. Coincidence?


So I'm sitting in a skin doctors office in a populated city and am the youngest person in there by at least 20 years. My initial thought was to wonder how many of the folks in the waiting room won't be here next year because of the beer bug. Yet none are wearing masks, none have Purell bottles poking out of their shirts pockets and none are talking about. My thoughts are "if they aint scared, neither will I be".
It's one of those facilities with one doctor and 8 people scheduled for the same appointment time in 15 minute increments so you end up hanging out in a waiting room for a while. 11:30 appt means if you are lucky you see the doctor in a hour. Ugh. I feel kind of bad for these elderly folks who may end up becoming inflicted because somebody did not heed warnings to avoid certain countries or use safe (well established) flu season practices.
 
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Well at my place of work, cabins lifted off trucks and placed outside entry . From monday(too little too late imho) we will be tested with temp, if a little high, wait 15 mins and test again. This has been suggested simply because coming into work, heaters on or bob hat.......temp could be up anyway.

Scientists are saying they think 60% of the population need to catch this, to help build up imune(not going to happen over night). Its not going away, not this year or next. In fact their estimate(granted nothing is fact) is over the next decade!!!!. Peaks and troughs, they also predict come winter, 100x more will get infected.

Stay safe, take serious, take no risks.
 
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With the many coronavirus' in the wild, what is the possibility that the exact Covid-19 is detected when 'there is another case in.....'
One has to ask if there are false positives on number of the exact covid effecting.

CDC is not doing every single test from Anywhere USA
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This is a good point. Does anyone here know what the current generation of Covid-19 tests looks at? Or is it a general test for any coronavirus?
 
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Its a vicious cycle, people panic buy instead of carrying on as normal(would not run out then). Then this forces the sensible people to have to stock up, as things run out.

Cant win

keep calm and carry on!

Its not even started yet, this could be with us for years.

We all have a right to now, the media fair play. But how its portrayed and brought to the people is very important. This they fail on.

Ironically, the a55 wipes wont have a55 wipes due to their papers!!!!
 
Rachael_B said:
Guys, what do you think me and my bf got flight tickets to Spain in June (vacation). Should we return them for a refund or by then everything's gonna be fine? I've heard in China they're going back to normal life.
Just saw this article... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/world/europe/spain-coronavirus-emergency.html
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As of 9.00am tomorrow (Monday 16 March) the whole of Spain will be in Lockdown for a minimum of 15 days.

With a population of just over 46 million the size of Spain is similar to the size of Texas. If people comply and keep themselves away from others then this action could do a lot to prevent many more being infected. We currently have over 6000 recorded cases and the numbers are doubling every other day!

Unfortunately my faith in the general public is not great so this could just create another wave after the lockdown is lifted.

So getting back to your question, we don't know what the situation will be in June, Spain could be recovering but it could be rampant in the USA by then and flights from the USA banned to the rest of the world.

Time will tell!
 
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Here are the folks that are fanning the flames just this past Friday afternoon at a white house press conference.
Schools closed, sports seasoned cancelled, toilet paper all gone, people fighting over hand soap and the world on the edge of panic.

Is the media over hyping this on purpose? As you can see they're ​not looking very nervous.
 
Went for the weekly grocery run and good gosh man. Besides the entire paper products row being wiped out, the surprise to me was all of the perishable stuff being gone. It was reiminiscent of Isabell when there was lots of canned products but no perishables. Only after Isabell there was no electricity for a week or two depending on where you lived. Armed guards were stationed at ice trucks during that one. Can you freeze eggs? Cause those were gone too.

Our local Sams Club had just gotten in a truck load of Charmin that will may be gone before I finish typing this.
FOMO is in high gear in my town.
 
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We discuss:


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  • Convalescent plasma coronavirus therapy [16:00];
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PODCAST #98 – Peter Attia, M.D. and Paul Grewal, M.D.: Coronavirus (COVID-19) FAQ 3-15-20

We discuss:


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Recent paper reported fomite survival on different surfaces:

aerosols, up to 3 hours post aerosolization

up to 4 hours on copper

up to 24 hours on cardboard

up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel (13hr median half-life on steel; 16hr median half-life on plastic)


def: fomites: objects or materials which are likely to carry infection, such as clothes, utensils, and furniture.

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Rachael_B said:
Guys, what do you think me and my bf got flight tickets to Spain in June (vacation). Should we return them for a refund or by then everything's gonna be fine? I've heard in China they're going back to normal life.
Just saw this article... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/world/europe/spain-coronavirus-emergency.html
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Rachael,

Spain is in full lockdown, and when that is lifted it will take quite some time for them to recover and get back to normal. The thing is nothing on this scale has happened before, so there can only be guesses at this point. Frankly, I would not even want to go to Spain or anywhere right after this event, and I am a professional traveler for my work.

Europe be could be in a state of chaos for a while, and we are now looking at a complete shut down of the US. I really don't see this all wrapped up by June. It will pass but I would not bet anything on a back to normal situation by June.

For today, keep your plans, as I nor anyone has any answers whatsoever, just Don't wait too long and lose your money. Tourism in a very important industry in every country and you should take your trip when things settle down, and you can expect a hassle free trip. All countries will need people to continue to travel, visit and spend money.

Also, don't believe anything out of China, and The TV networks, and cable news outlets have helped with the insanity of the TP and bottled water hoarding. When this is over, I hope the media pays for what they caused.

Get your Info. from creditable Web sites for both government and news. The Associated Press is excellent for news reporting.

Good luck, and best wishes,

RedLED
 
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Last night got a Robocall from kids school. Shutting down till further notice. Pretty sure it’s happening everywhere. So dumped whole paycheck on food and supplies and we’re all hunkered in. The stores in some of the bigger towns are loosing there minds and talking to people they literally think this is the end!I have 3 children and obviously I’m taking precautions but I think the most important thing to do now is to act normal and just carry on. People we will be fine.
 
An interesting move here. Supermarkets now refusing refunds on panic buy goods like toilet paper, sanitizer, tissues, rice , pasta and so on. Most of it was ending up on Aus EBay at scalper prices. These people are now stuck with it, and some semblance of restraint is showing. One young gent has 17,000 bottles of hand sanitizer in his garage. Let’s hope he lives long enough to enjoy every bottle. Like seemingly everywhere, the credibility of our media is diving faster than the stock market during the GFC. Our Govt is urging commonsense precautions, but the dang media is twisting it every which way. Not to belittle the effects of COVID19, but the media have a lot to answer for. Will they ever be held to account? Doubtful.
 
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