You should come to New York, executive order went in effect Friday night at 8 PM requiring face masks in public were social distancing is not possible. I went to Walmart with a homemade face mask and observed at least 10 to 15 people with no face mask in the store. If I wasn't buying supplies for my 78 year old mother I would not have been in that store. A few of the employees liked the face mask that I was wearing, but I thought I would have some fun with it. There was definitely a lot of people out today in that particular store then there was before the face mask mandate.
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You should come to New York, executive order went in effect Friday night at 8 PM requiring face masks in public were social distancing is not possible. I went to Walmart with a homemade face mask and observed at least 10 to 15 people with no face mask in the store. If I wasn't buying supplies for my 78 year old mother I would not have been in that store. A few of the employees liked the face mask that I was wearing, but I thought I would have some fun with it. There was definitely a lot of people out today in that particular store then there was before the face mask mandate.
scout24
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I was thinking far and fast globally partially due to our ability to travel anywhere in the world in 24 hours, and the corresponding freedom of travel we have... I do agree with extent and severity though. Have we had something move with this speed before? Honest question...
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Probably not Scout.
Excellent points, and yes, speed of transmission is remarkably rapid with most respiratory viral agents.
Measles is perhaps far more infectious yet, however.
EDIT - here are some of the stats for measles, including comparisons of both the pre- and post-vaccination eras ...
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/measles
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Yes and typically for much of history people lived in smaller groups (compared to today’s mega cities), were more spread out and didn’t travel as far from home since foot travel and animals were your options. So something really nasty would just rip through a community, kill all susceptible to it, and burn out. Today like you said we have giant cities full of hosts, and the ability to send those hosts all over the place. I would think certainly mechanized travel as a whole over the past 125 years or so has allowed for the easy spread of disease far beyond anything in previous centuries.
scout24
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Arch- That's a scary read...
Yep, polio was vicious too, but fear and panic fade after vaccines become available ... and memories are short.
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scout24
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Guilty. Born in '68, part of the vaccine generation...
Vaccinated here too. A disc about the size of a nickel was pressed onto my arm and for a time later there was a scab.
I was like 5 or 6 because back then not everybody went to kindergarten. I went and had to be vaccinated before entering elementary school.
Back then every kid in 2nd grade had the same scar I did.
I was like 5 or 6 because back then not everybody went to kindergarten. I went and had to be vaccinated before entering elementary school.
Back then every kid in 2nd grade had the same scar I did.
StarHalo
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L@@K! A PENNY! :p
Poppy
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Never heard of a money tree?
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Face itch? Can't sratch with elbow?
Try this: a cactus
It'll make you question just how bad it really itches.
Try this: a cactus
It'll make you question just how bad it really itches.
Mr fixer, the Q about people who we know who have had it. I can add one more person. I’m on shift cover tonight, a chap I know in work(another Mark) has been off for 3 weeks. His first night back was Friday this week.He has had it and been tested, his brother in law is still on a ventilator. He was put in an induced coma for 4 of those days.
Marks wife wanted him to go into hospital (Liverpool) . He did not want to, wanted to try and cope.Worst bit was around 3 days or so, struggling with sleep and breathing at times. Said he felt like crap for a good week though, like a bad hangover that does not clear, poor breathing ,head aches and could only breath through one nostril (obv a variable , just part of his suffering).
Marks wife wanted him to go into hospital (Liverpool) . He did not want to, wanted to try and cope.Worst bit was around 3 days or so, struggling with sleep and breathing at times. Said he felt like crap for a good week though, like a bad hangover that does not clear, poor breathing ,head aches and could only breath through one nostril (obv a variable , just part of his suffering).
coffeecup66
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Did you find how Worldometer comes to state a total of 147 969 cases on their April 17th chart ?
Taken from the french official governmental daily report of April 17th 2020 :
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- 109 252 : Cumulated number of COVID-19 cases CONFIRMED by positive test.
- 20 272 : Number of CONFIRMED cases by PCR test, located in EHPADs & EMSs.
This number is (already) INCLUDED in the total number of cumulated cases.
(EHPAD = nursing homes for elders, EMS = other socio-medical establishments)
- 38 717 : Number of POSSIBLE cases located in EHPADs & EMSs presenting symptoms compatible with a COVID-19 diagnostic.
Simple arithmetic shows exactly how worldometer comes up with their baloney figure (of 147 969 cases).
NB : I used the link given by worldometer, which is the valid french official governmental source. (just click back a day (or more) to find the April 17 figures)
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Ven,
Glad to hear your friend is recovering. Is he much younger than brother inlaw or about same age?
Prayers go out to him and family
Your friend Mark could be a candidate for plasma donation
Stay vigilant Mark!
Glad to hear your friend is recovering. Is he much younger than brother inlaw or about same age?
Prayers go out to him and family
Your friend Mark could be a candidate for plasma donation
Stay vigilant Mark!
Not sure how old his brother in law will be, he is late 40's though. Quite possible, he is well up on flu's and stuff as one of his previous jobs, was producing vaccines. He went into detail about the process and how it works with 9 month deadlines. How the WHO mention so many potential flu virus each year, companies basically gamble of several. Many can go out of business if they gamble and produce for X flu's when Y flu's occurs. It was 2am, so my brain did not remember much!
On Thursday the US gov't says "14 days in a row with less cases and you can begin to relax the grip". Stage 1 if you will. Lots of states had trended downward a few two or three days in a row so many were shouting "hurray". Then on Friday and Saturday governors started adding "presumed" cases to the daily numbers. Innocent enough, right? Presumed cases going back as far as March though. Something smells fishy about that. Is it to get Uncle Sam money for each case like they get for each student in a class room? Or something more sinister, like governors lust for power has them playing dirty pool?
Time will tell, but there's a lot bubbling under the surface in the US. You tube videos of a cop dragging someone without a mask off a subway, drive in churches being shut down, one governor bragging about signing "common sense gun legislation" into law during a national crisis, another saying "spray paint and tomatoe seeds are non essentials"……
Now where I come from, if we had the disaster like new york did and some fool got on a subway without a mask……the cops would be called alright. To rescue that poor fool. Well, someone would probably have offered the guy a scarf or a hanky first. If he got rude about, bad time to be a jerk buster. We got giant pickup trucks with giant decals across the back saying "feel free to shoot a heroin dealer" so those guys aint playing around with this novel corona thing.
Where I work at everybody is asking "is it true we're going to get $13 more for each hour we work since we are essential?" I respond "wow your company is pretty cool". They say "naw, it's coming from the government"…… First I heard of that. If anything that extra $600/week to unemployed folks might be what they're talking about. Many companys are saying "want a raise right now, just be happy you still have a job." So that has a few folks in bad need of a haircut feeling a little more tense too.
Another month from now hopefully things will have settled down. Otherwise we're in for a looooong summer in America.
Time will tell, but there's a lot bubbling under the surface in the US. You tube videos of a cop dragging someone without a mask off a subway, drive in churches being shut down, one governor bragging about signing "common sense gun legislation" into law during a national crisis, another saying "spray paint and tomatoe seeds are non essentials"……
Now where I come from, if we had the disaster like new york did and some fool got on a subway without a mask……the cops would be called alright. To rescue that poor fool. Well, someone would probably have offered the guy a scarf or a hanky first. If he got rude about, bad time to be a jerk buster. We got giant pickup trucks with giant decals across the back saying "feel free to shoot a heroin dealer" so those guys aint playing around with this novel corona thing.
Where I work at everybody is asking "is it true we're going to get $13 more for each hour we work since we are essential?" I respond "wow your company is pretty cool". They say "naw, it's coming from the government"…… First I heard of that. If anything that extra $600/week to unemployed folks might be what they're talking about. Many companys are saying "want a raise right now, just be happy you still have a job." So that has a few folks in bad need of a haircut feeling a little more tense too.
Another month from now hopefully things will have settled down. Otherwise we're in for a looooong summer in America.
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Honestly Mr Fixer, i thing the globe is in for a long 2020. But................i am diggin the quiet roads and motorway for work travel. Kind of diggin dudes keeping their distance to. Yes its a mess, but there are a few positives in all this crazy.
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