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I just noticed a minor change has been added to International Outdoor's description. I'm not sure when, but it wasn't there a few weeks ago:
"Noctigon 4XP V2 used for better beam pattern."

http://intl-outdoor.com/noctigon-4xp-v2-4p-quad-led-copper-mcpcb-2-pcs-p-914.html

This has the solder pads all at a slight angle to each other like the Mountain Electronics version, which is supposed to reduce the slightly pinwheel effect the quad emitters create.
 
Thats cool iamlucky, yes been quite a few swapping their boards over to reduce the square beam pattern. However, i may be in the minority here, for me its only noticeable close to a wall...............i mean come on! In use for me anyway its just unnoticeable. If your a white wall hunter then worth while, for me i would just rather use the damn thing :laughing: . I can see where it would annoy, especially for some who know its there...................i have a little OCD at times so can understand.............plus its an excuse to mod and add their personal touch. A nice beam is very important for me, but it has to be nice in use. I can see all kinds of fugly close up, pretty much most triples/quads close up show crazy patterns.

Still its a positive, Hank has obviously took note(maybe he also does not want customers messing too much as well). So little tweaks towards perfection is only a good thing imho.
 
I don't notice it in use, either. If I shine it at a wall and spin the light, it jumps out at me really obviously, but once I stop, if I look away and look back, it's like the lobes of the beam disappear.

It's great that little improvements like this are being made, though. An MCPCB swap is something I might consider if I ever do follow through on re-flashing the driver. The UI is enough better than I was expecting that I haven't bothered yet.
 
SKV89 said:
Does the D4 work with Panasonic protected NCR18650B?
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No, you need high drain flat top. Sony vtc5a or vtc6 , Samsung 30Q for examples.

Protected will not fit as too long, even if they did fit they would trip once you ramped up high. The load is too great for a PCB(iirc over 20a some have measured).

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ank said:
Man this light is so addicting. I ordered another one lol
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Seriously, everyone needs at least two. After all, we have two hands! Plus, since it's so fun to ramp up, we deplete the battery fast. Therefore, what better spare battery holder than another D4?
 
ank said:
Man this light is so addicting. I ordered another one lol
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So you will only have 2? ....................:faint:

I thought i curbed D4 fever with just 3, 2x D1's........
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Other D1, not got a pic together as some in work
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I still need a green, maybe xpl HI 4000k next as its a fav LED/colour temp and tint! Stunning, i have the xpl HI 4000k triple in the PrinceCvn and i love it!
 
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Tbh, they are(dare i say it) too girly looking for me:tinfoil: I much prefer plain ti or stainless with the copper. I really could not be bothered trying to explain every time i pulled it out and got laughed at in work :laughing: Nice looking, but no......................ti or stainless YES YES YES!
 
Are they any lights similar to this one (using 18350 tube) that have USB charging?
 
slate said:
Yes Manker E14 II and Astrolux s42 are 18350 quad leds with USB charging
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I don't recommend those though. I have both and they are enormously inferior to the D4.

Astrolux S42:
* USB cover pops out of place extremely easily. Very irritating.
* relatively low output
* World's worst UI of any flashlight anywhere.

Manker E14II
* Has a decent UI
* Copper head looks nice but is very heavy. Not very practical for pocket EDC.
* Copper head heats up insanely fast. If you run it at turbo within seconds the head will be too hot to touch. Not good considering that's where the button is.
* Charging interface of having o completely unscrew and remove the head to get to the charging slot is cumbersome.

Both the Astrolux and Manker:
* are much larger than the D4
* are much dimmer than the D4
* lank temperature sensors
* lack smooth ramping
 
I normally buy only one or two lights a year - and lately I haven't been excited about a light since I bought my SC62w on clearance over a year ago. Just discovered the D4, and after reading posts in this thread and in Vinh's thread, I ordered two:

D4vn with 219c 5000K emitter; and
D4 from Mountain Electronics with XP-L 3A 5000K emitter.

I added two pocket clips from Mountain Electronics, because I like the fact that pocket clips prevent my lights from rolling off tables and getting hurt, and they also provide an attachment point for a lanyard. I might be crazy for doing this, but I put lanyards on my favorite lights so I can use a lanyard on my wrist or around my neck to prevent my lights from being dropped when in use.

I like the idea some have offered in this thread of using grip tape on the D4 - I'm looking for inexpensive grip tape now.

I am not inclined to use my D4's at the highest settings - I'm going to be very satisfied at the lower levels in normal use, but it is great to have more output in a light I can take on my commute in case I need it. After all, I work in Washington, D.C. and commute on the subway and bus - so breakdowns and other emergencies are inevitable here.

I'll report back in this thread after receiving my lights - but how can I not enjoy them?
 
Fireclaw18 said:

Both the Astrolux and Manker:
* are much larger than the D4
* are much dimmer than the D4
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I fully understand most of your points, and they factored into my own decision to get the D4 instead of the Manker E14 II.

These two points have some caveats, however. They a moderate amount longer but slightly skinnier. Some users prioritize small diameter over length for pocket carry, including myself (although the D4 still won overall in my consideration).

Also, several reviewers measured the Manker E14 II in the ballpark of 3000 lumens at turn on. Yet, the E14 II reportedly meets its claimed 2200 lumen output at 30s. However, then it immediately steps down further than the D4. Sources: (1), (2), (3)

The D4, unless we're talking about the XP-L version, is not much brighter at turn on (3300 lm claimed for XP-G2, 3500 lm for the N219c), but can fall to as low as 1000 lumens at 30 seconds. source (Nichia example - worst case)

Given the dumber thermal management of the E14, it makes sense that it would get blistering hot before stepdown, but it does sound like it effectively gives the user a little more turbo run time.

The S42 reportedly is hardly worth considering due to defects and unremarkable performance. Some users have even said their S41 (Nichia 219b) is brighter than their S42 (Nichia 219c).

So if you're getting one light, it almost certainly should be the D4. If even the D4 is too rich for your blood, or if you just really like that mixed copper and anodized look (I know it tempts me), the S41 at its common sub-$25 sales price is an option.
 
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