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True. But it's surprising how many aren't mentally ill. Or, on drugs or booze.
Best to try to help the ones who need a hand-up. About 20 years ago, I stumbled onto an article on Don Rearic's website. A man documented his time being Homeless due to massive financial struggles NOT caused by mental illness, drugs, or drink. It was truly eye-opening. He was homeless for a couple of years until he managed to find steady work and a cheap apartment.

Would love to link to it, but Don's website was deleted several years back. Along with all of his gear reviews and EDC related articles in general. Though I did manage to read everything on there. By then, it was a Zombie site. No new content in about a decade. One day, it just vanished. A Google Search of his name will produce results. Though none related to him specifically.
 
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True. But it's surprising how many aren't mentally ill. Or, on drugs or booze.
Best to try to help the ones who need a hand-up. About 20 years ago, I stumbled onto an article on Don Rearic's website. A man documented his time being Homeless due to massive financial struggles NOT caused by mental illness, drugs, or drink. It was truly eye-opening. He was homeless for a couple of years until he managed to find steady work and a cheap apartment.

Would love to link to it, but Don's website was deleted several years back. Along with all of his gear reviews and EDC related articles in general. Though I did manage to read everything on there. By then, it was a Zombie site. No new content in about a decade. One day, it just vanished. A Google Search of his name will produce results. Though none related to him specifically.
The site has been archived, so still available if anyone is interested.

 
True. But it's surprising how many aren't mentally ill. Or, on drugs or booze.
Best to try to help the ones who need a hand-up. About 20 years ago, I stumbled onto an article on Don Rearic's website. A man documented his time being Homeless due to massive financial struggles NOT caused by mental illness, drugs, or drink. It was truly eye-opening. He was homeless for a couple of years until he managed to find steady work and a cheap apartment.

Would love to link to it, but Don's website was deleted several years back. Along with all of his gear reviews and EDC related articles in general. Though I did manage to read everything on there. By then, it was a Zombie site. No new content in about a decade. One day, it just vanished. A Google Search of his name will produce results. Though none related to him specifically.
Yes. In fact if my siblings insist on getting their share of the house and I don't get a windfall (either from the ICO or recovering money from the scam) I'll be homeless. In my case a hand-up won't help much. I'm 63. There's no job anyone would hire me for where I could make enough to support myself, nor do I have the energy to work full-time. I can't continue to run my business from a cardboard box on the street. The end result will be permanent homelessness until I die. Thankfully that wouldn't take too long. I'm sure the next cold snap in the next winter would be the end of me. Past a certain age starting over is impossible. It's not easy even when you're in your 20s or 30s.

We can radically reduce homelessness by doing two things. One, make food and shelter basic human rights. By that I mean basic, private living accommodations, not filthy, crime-ridden homeless shelters. Two, do something to get ridiculous housing prices down. Housing prices are up by at least a factor of five in real dollars since my parents started out in 1961. No reason a modest home like the one I'm in should be pushing $1 million. $250K tops should be what homes like this sell for.

We should also have caretaker laws where those who were the primary caretakers of a parent get a certain percentage of their assets for each year of care, regardless of what the will says. To me this is a fair way to compensate caretakers which costs the state nothing. I would have cared for my mother regardless but I had hoped my siblings would have been more reasonable. Both more or less acted like the house would be mine upon my mother's passing so long as I split the rest of her assets between the two of them. Unfortunately dreams of retiring earlier made them change their minds.
 
My homless event was due to mental illness it was aweful i would hide .i was so ashamed. Id get so hungry but was ashamed to use food kitchens or what ever tgere called .mental illness sucks id be way more successful if i wasnt born with it
 
Yes. In fact if my siblings insist on getting their share of the house and I don't get a windfall (either from the ICO or recovering money from the scam) I'll be homeless. In my case a hand-up won't help much. I'm 63. There's no job anyone would hire me for where I could make enough to support myself, nor do I have the energy to work full-time. I can't continue to run my business from a cardboard box on the street. The end result will be permanent homelessness until I die. Thankfully that wouldn't take too long. I'm sure the next cold snap in the next winter would be the end of me. Past a certain age starting over is impossible. It's not easy even when you're in your 20s or 30s.

We can radically reduce homelessness by doing two things. One, make food and shelter basic human rights. By that I mean basic, private living accommodations, not filthy, crime-ridden homeless shelters. Two, do something to get ridiculous housing prices down. Housing prices are up by at least a factor of five in real dollars since my parents started out in 1961. No reason a modest home like the one I'm in should be pushing $1 million. $250K tops should be what homes like this sell for.

We should also have caretaker laws where those who were the primary caretakers of a parent get a certain percentage of their assets for each year of care, regardless of what the will says. To me this is a fair way to compensate caretakers which costs the state nothing. I would have cared for my mother regardless but I had hoped my siblings would have been more reasonable. Both more or less acted like the house would be mine upon my mother's passing so long as I split the rest of her assets between the two of them. Unfortunately dreams of retiring earlier made them change their minds.
I agree with a good chunk of what you wrote. Unfortunately, greedy folks will happily make profit from the misery and suffering of others. I'm sorry but food and shelter as Human rights are never going to happen. Both are simply too profitable to give up by those in charge of them. Best we have are half empty community food pantries, and Section 8 housing. The latter being barely a notch up from a cardboard box.

As for your siblings.... There are times I'm glad I'm an Only Child. No offense.
 
I agree with a good chunk of what you wrote. Unfortunately, greedy folks will happily make profit from the misery and suffering of others. I'm sorry but food and shelter as Human rights are never going to happen. Both are simply too profitable to give up by those in charge of them. Best we have are half empty community food pantries, and Section 8 housing. The latter being barely a notch up from a cardboard box.
We certainly need to do something. Getting housing prices back down to historical norms would be a good start. And also changing laws where parents can't kick their kids out if they're 18 or over. Parents should be responsible for any children they bring into this world for as long as necessary, not governments. If the children are abusive then they should be put into some kind of custodial setting, not kicked to the curb.
As for your siblings.... There are times I'm glad I'm an Only Child. No offense.
There are both advantages and disadvantages to having siblings. Other than possible fights about division of property for me it's been mostly advantages.
 
How would we go about lowering the cost of:
  1. Land
  2. Building Permits
  3. Excavation
  4. Materials
  5. Labor: Architects, Engineers, Cement Masons, Framers, Carpenters, HVAC Technicians, Roofers, Electricians, Plumbers, Drywallers, Painters, Landscapers, and so on.
 
How would we go about lowering the cost of:
  1. Land
  2. Building Permits
  3. Excavation
  4. Materials
  5. Labor: Architects, Engineers, Cement Masons, Framers, Carpenters, HVAC Technicians, Roofers, Electricians, Plumbers, Drywallers, Painters, Landscapers, and so on.
Most of what you're talking about only refers to new construction on green fields, not the price of existing housing stock. A good start is to get private equity firms, flippers, speculators, and so forth out of the residential housing markets. Also prohibit rental of single family homes, renting more than one unit of two-family homes, or more than two units of three family homes. If a person wants to get into the residential rental business let them buy an apartment building. Combined these things would result in a flood of properties on the market, radically lowering prices.

After that get rid of most zoning laws. Supply and demand should dictate what gets built where, not zoning laws. The amount of land zoned only for single family homes is one of the biggest impediments to getting new housing stock built.

Cities can lower the cost of building permits, plus red tape, if they wanted to. Hopefully in the medium to long terms automation/robotic labor will help with the last item on your list. There is a huge shortage of tradespeople to build new housing now. The home being built next door has been taking three years and change to get built. In the 1960s we were building new homes on empty lots in a matter of a few months tops. Prefabbing might help speed construction also.

The biggest impediment to lowering housing costs is the vested interests who will lose a lot of equity should prices drop to something reasonable. Hence they oppose any and all measures to make housing more affordable to protect their wealth. I couldn't care less. They did nothing to earn these massive amounts of equity, other than being in the right place at the right time. Historically most people who bought homes saw them appreciate with inflation. When they sold the home, the proceeds bought approximately the same amount of goods/services as the money they spent to buy it, not multiples worth.
 
How do you remove the cost factor of new homes from the value of existing homes?
Isn't most of the cost of new homes not due to construction costs but rather current market rates? To some extent regulations also have something to do with it. Many things are required in new homes which weren't required 50 years ago. As a result construction costs more. It's very analogous to the automotive market. Part of the reason today's cars are so expensive compared to those 50 years is a plethora of regulations requiring certain devices. By the same token if you buy an older car or older house you're not getting these features, and therefore should pay less. In short we've effectively regulated the basic end of the housing market out of existence. Now all we build is luxury or semi-luxury housing, whether or not it's what people can afford.

Another factor is today's homes are much larger. That costs more. We need more 1,000 square foot homes built. 50 years ago that was considered adequate to raise a family. Nowadays couples with a 2,500 square foot home add a wing when they have their first child.

As I said using more prefab could lower costs dramatically, some say even by more than half. Today's homes used far more labor to construct than need be. Right-sizing housing for the number of occupants will lower costs further.
 
....also changing laws where parents can't kick their kids out if they're 18 or over. Parents should be responsible for any children they bring into this world for as long as necessary....
Can't agree there. But parents should do the absolute best they can to prepare their offspring for the real world. Also, they should be held criminally responsible for the acts their offspring commit before turning 18. "Oh, your child beat another student within an inch of their life for no reason at all. All three of you are facing assault charges and jail-time."

Maybe then modern day parents will get off their lazy backsides and actually parent their children.
 
Re: homelessness... The vast majority of people who are on the streets aren't homeless. They had homes to go to. Friends, family, etc. People steal from family because they know family won't call the police. But that leaves them no longer welcome in their homes. While there are some traditional 'homeless' people out there, the vast majority are drug users. We have a huge drug problem in the USA and one in which no one's willing to take the hard, serious steps to fix it. They'll involuntarily commit an anorexic girl/woman for being too thin, while druggies go in and out of the courtrooms daily without mandatory treatment/testing.

Why do you think bad things like that happen on transit? I rode the subways for three years to go to high school in the late 1970s when crime was very high. I never encountered any violence.
This isn't the 1970s. I had written a long response to this, but no need to. Society's changed. Fatherless is rampant in some communities, higher across all of them. Drug use is off the charts, as well as drugs are far more potent than decades prior. Welfare's structure rewards bad behaviour and has created an entitlement mindset, including the victim mentality. Progressive policies practically encourage anti-social behaviour.

Most cars can't stop bullets. If a person is deranged enough they can easily kill people in cars given how widely available firearms are in this country.
We've usually had one reinforced/armoured car in our household ever since I was growing up. Even my little E-Class has some light armouring on it (BR6). I couldn't afford VR10, nor need it.

I hope you know if you run over a person trying to attack you in your vehicle that's always an attempted manslaughter charge, unless they have a gun and are shooting at you. That's the only time you can run them over and claim self-defense.
I ran over a hood rat who tried to steal my hood ornament. He also had his hand in his pocket and motioned like he had a gun. I just let out the clutch, knocked him down, reversed, then drove away. I did call the PD's watch commander about it and he said he saw nothing wrong with it. 'Tis Florida, after all.

You will have accomplished the primary goal of terrorists, namely to spread fear. I'm just surprised the terrorists haven't figured this out yet. Hitting a bunch of malls on the same day, with 9/11 numbers of people killed, would be even more effective.
Terrorists aren't real bright. I also thought a prolonged series of attacks would be more effective at their goal of destabilisation than a major one-off event.
The MTA is slowly switching to open gangway trains which are continuous for 5 car lengths, with no doors in between cars. This solves the problem you mention. I personally avoid getting on any nearly empty car, especially if there are questionable people there.
Great, so now some degenerate can start a fire / spray some sort of chemical and have it spread throughout all of the train cars simultaneously.

How would we go about lowering the cost of:
  1. Land
  2. Building Permits
  3. Excavation
  4. Materials
  5. Labor: Architects, Engineers, Cement Masons, Framers, Carpenters, HVAC Technicians, Roofers, Electricians, Plumbers, Drywallers, Painters, Landscapers, and so on.
Less regulation. Especially in Florida w/r/t hurricane codes. No one expects a car to crash and suffer no damage. A house shouldn't be expected to take a major hurricane without some damage as well. Protecting the occupants, sure, but beyond that is ridiculous. Leave that as an option for those who want to pay for it. I had to replace my windows last year at one of my condos to "hurricane" windows. The sliding glass door alone was $15k. One window. This was to replace sliding glass doors which withstood multiple Cat 3 hurricanes without issue.

Also, get rid of the unions. Having worked both union and non-union jobs, give me non-union any day of the week. I've seen unions which were good for both workers and employers, but those were few and far between. Notably, IATSE in Florida is very good about making sure workers are well-trained. If I had a show where I wanted quality, I hired them. At the same time, I knew I was going to pay through the nose for them. Other unions were terrible for both the company and union members.

Also regarding the trades, there's a ton of private equity firms buying up contractors. Good luck finding a true locally-owned HVAC/plumbing contractor. They buy up existing companies with long histories and then convert them to profit-driven sales machines. When I replaced my AC last year, only 2 of the 8 companies I contacted were still locally-owned. The one who got my business wasn't the least expensive, but gave me the same product for almost 1/2 as much as the private equity guys were quoting me.

If you want pure evil, I saw where one of these predatory HVAC companies (ServiceExperts) screwed a bedridden veteran for a $26,000 LEASE on an AC system, with no option to buy or keep the equipment at the end of the term. Fair market price for that system should have been about $5k at most.
 
The vast majority of people who are on the streets aren't homeless. They had homes to go to. Friends, family, etc.
stop - full stop.

You have so many words but so little

What numbers to your "vast majority" equal to? I live in a large city. Not yours. Yours is different than mine. However, your numbers don't match with actual, factual, real life walking data.

Plz, (and always plz) show your work.



I have an imagination and a life and things happen as well as anyone else does. I have very real numbers and can find the one's I don't carry with me. Just for your entertainment. But it must be in the appropriate forum.
 
Re: homelessness... The vast majority of people who are on the streets aren't homeless. They had homes to go to. Friends, family, etc. People steal from family because they know family won't call the police. But that leaves them no longer welcome in their homes. While there are some traditional 'homeless' people out there, the vast majority are drug users. We have a huge drug problem in the USA and one in which no one's willing to take the hard, serious steps to fix it. They'll involuntarily commit an anorexic girl/woman for being too thin, while druggies go in and out of the courtrooms daily without mandatory treatment/testing.
Yeah, and I have no real answers. We've tried for over 50 years to go after the supply side. Doesn't work. Never will. When there's a demand for a product, and a huge profit margin, people will line up to fill that demand as quickly as you can put them in prison.

IMO we need to go after the root causes of drug abuse. Hopelessness is one of them. There are many others. The US is the drug abuse capital of the world (both legal and illegal drugs). The hard question we need to ask ourselves is why? After that we need non-partisan solutions to fix the problem.
This isn't the 1970s. I had written a long response to this, but no need to. Society's changed. Fatherless is rampant in some communities, higher across all of them. Drug use is off the charts, as well as drugs are far more potent than decades prior. Welfare's structure rewards bad behaviour and has created an entitlement mindset, including the victim mentality. Progressive policies practically encourage anti-social behaviour.
Here's the big problem with welfare. The system is set up to keep you on it, mostly to benefit the legions of public service union workers in the welfare bureaucracy. I've said many times if you want to help poor people just give them money with no strings attached. Replace all safety net programs with universal basic income which every citizen 18 or over will get. This will provide a safety net. More importantly there will be no reductions in benefits if you work. You'll always be better off working with UBI, so most will work at least part-time. When you work, you have to keep yourself at least somewhat away from drugs to remain employable. You can't be comatose 24/7/365.
We've usually had one reinforced/armoured car in our household ever since I was growing up. Even my little E-Class has some light armouring on it (BR6). I couldn't afford VR10, nor need it.
I hesitate to ask why you needed that level of protection but it's good to have regardless.
I ran over a hood rat who tried to steal my hood ornament. He also had his hand in his pocket and motioned like he had a gun. I just let out the clutch, knocked him down, reversed, then drove away. I did call the PD's watch commander about it and he said he saw nothing wrong with it. 'Tis Florida, after all.
Well, he got what he deserved. Whether he actually had a gun or not is moot. To you it appeared he might, so you took appropriate action.
Great, so now some degenerate can start a fire / spray some sort of chemical and have it spread throughout all of the train cars simultaneously.
Open gangway trains are the standard worldwide. You get in about 10% more passengers for starters. Plus it creates a much more friendly, open environment. I think all the new trains will have camera surveillance. In any case giving up a bunch of advantages for very infrequent events would make no sense. It's worse to start a fire on a train car with locked doors. Nobody can leave until the next stop. On some express runs that can be 7 or 8 minutes away.
Less regulation. Especially in Florida w/r/t hurricane codes. No one expects a car to crash and suffer no damage. A house shouldn't be expected to take a major hurricane without some damage as well. Protecting the occupants, sure, but beyond that is ridiculous. Leave that as an option for those who want to pay for it. I had to replace my windows last year at one of my condos to "hurricane" windows. The sliding glass door alone was $15k. One window. This was to replace sliding glass doors which withstood multiple Cat 3 hurricanes without issue.
The caveat here is if a person opts for less hurricane protection then the government shouldn't bail them out if their house gets destroyed. I think one big reason for the plethora of new regulations is the fact insurance companies are pulling out of Florida. The only real answer then is to make sure the homes survive even a Cat 5.
Also, get rid of the unions. Having worked both union and non-union jobs, give me non-union any day of the week. I've seen unions which were good for both workers and employers, but those were few and far between. Notably, IATSE in Florida is very good about making sure workers are well-trained. If I had a show where I wanted quality, I hired them. At the same time, I knew I was going to pay through the nose for them. Other unions were terrible for both the company and union members.
Totally agree about unions. If you're the least bit ambitious unions are like a ball and chain. No real way to advance except through seniority. Doesn't matter how well and quickly you work. You only get paid more when you put in the time.
Also regarding the trades, there's a ton of private equity firms buying up contractors. Good luck finding a true locally-owned HVAC/plumbing contractor. They buy up existing companies with long histories and then convert them to profit-driven sales machines. When I replaced my AC last year, only 2 of the 8 companies I contacted were still locally-owned. The one who got my business wasn't the least expensive, but gave me the same product for almost 1/2 as much as the private equity guys were quoting me.

If you want pure evil, I saw where one of these predatory HVAC companies (ServiceExperts) screwed a bedridden veteran for a $26,000 LEASE on an AC system, with no option to buy or keep the equipment at the end of the term. Fair market price for that system should have been about $5k at most.
Honestly I didn't know about any of this. Score another one for private equity firms gutting American businesses. Can't they be stopped? And holy cow, leasing an AC system????? That's something I would never do in a million years. I like to own everything.
 
This sounds like a horrible, excruciatingly painful way to die. And nobody could think to push the emergency stop button???? Unbelieveable.
Unfortunately very much believable. I'm not surprised at all.
As a younger man, I once fell asleep on the train a few stations away from my stop.
Woke up to find myself at the very last station, empty train, doors shut and locked.
I sat down and thought about what to do. Thankfully a maintenance guy saw me.
Unlocked the doors for me. No one could be even bothered to shout....
"Hey, wake up! Last stop!"
That's something I did all the time, for others. General public is 2-legged trash!
 
Yeah, and I have no real answers. We've tried for over 50 years to go after the supply side. Doesn't work. Never will. When there's a demand for a product, and a huge profit margin, people will line up to fill that demand as quickly as you can put them in prison.
Countries which have the death penalty for those who import/manufacture/distribute/sell drugs have very low drug usage rates. Those people don't re-offend. For anyone who thinks this is harsh, look at what happens to the drug users, especially with the potency of today's drugs.

Now for the drug users. I don't think a criminal record of drug use should follow someone who managed to get clean and stay sober. I know people who did drugs in their college years only and are in their 60s and still have the felony drug charges on their records despite not touching drugs in 40 years.

For the users, I'd like to see mandatory treatment and monitoring, along with plenty of support. Not the profit-motivated spa-like faux rehabs which are out there, but actual results-based treatment programs. Or for those who do re-offend, there's always Singapore/Malaysia style rules on drugs, which are highly effective.

Here's the big problem with welfare. The system is set up to keep you on it, mostly to benefit the legions of public service union workers in the welfare bureaucracy
Absolutely 100% correct. Those who rob Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Peter.

I've said many times if you want to help poor people just give them money with no strings attached. Replace all safety net programs with universal basic income which every citizen 18 or over will get. This will provide a safety net. More importantly there will be no reductions in benefits if you work. You'll always be better off working with UBI, so most will work at least part-time. When you work, you have to keep yourself at least somewhat away from drugs to remain employable. You can't be comatose 24/7/365.
UBI doesn't work. Go to Alaska and watch it in action. Take a look at the 'homeless' who are passed out on the sidewalks and city parks. The vast majority of them are Natives. Natives who received dividend funds from their local Native Corporations. UBI. No need to work. No purpose in life. Many rural villages are dry/drug-free, so when their monthly checks come in, they head to Anchorage and spend their UBI checks on drink and drugs.
I hesitate to ask why you needed that level of protection but it's good to have regardless.
Work. If you get deep enough into forensic accounting, you end up encountering people of questionable ethics. Arms dealers, human / sex / drug traffickers, shady arms dealers, murderers, psychopaths, sociopaths, mob leaders, organised crime, etc. They're none too happy about losing their cash cows, or worse, freedom.

I need to find some author who writes biographies or similar. The stories my dad and I could tell. All true and verifiable.

Open gangway trains are the standard worldwide. You get in about 10% more passengers for starters. Plus it creates a much more friendly, open environment.
The deviants/animals who inhabit NYC are NOT the standard worldwide. Other transit systems are clean, quiet, comfortable, on-time. London's still uses cloth seats. Those would be destroyed in a week in NYC.

The caveat here is if a person opts for less hurricane protection then the government shouldn't bail them out if their house gets destroyed. I think one big reason for the plethora of new regulations is the fact insurance companies are pulling out of Florida. The only real answer then is to make sure the homes survive even a Cat 5.
I fully agree. People should be able to build whatever they want (within reason). It's a free market. Let people and insurers figure out what makes sense, not government.

As far as government bailouts for natural disasters, the Oklahoma City area's been hit by 28 EF3+ tornadoes....yet no one complains when they get government bailouts, even though new homes still don't have basements or storm shelters or building codes to prevent deaths in such storms.

Totally agree about unions. If you're the least bit ambitious unions are like a ball and chain. No real way to advance except through seniority. Doesn't matter how well and quickly you work. You only get paid more when you put in the time.
You should have seen the meal requirements for one of the unions I was a member of. Overnight shift. 11pm-7am. We had a mid-shift breakfast, catered, by waiters wearing suits and ties. While we're all dressed in black shorts and black t-shirts, reasonably grubby from work. Paid for by the client.

Honestly I didn't know about any of this. Score another one for private equity firms gutting American businesses. Can't they be stopped? And holy cow, leasing an AC system????? That's something I would never do in a million years. I like to own everything.
It's happening in every field. Even eye doctors are now being bought up by private equity.
 
In my career I have seen thousands of tragedies due to alcohol and drugs. I have seen entire families wrecked while trying to save a loved one from drugs or alcohol (often both). Many parents have spent their life savings trying to save a child from addiction with a few finding success however 90 percent did not.

Early in my career I began to get bitter and mad at the world after dealing with drug addicts on a nightly basis. I very quickly formed the opinion that these addicts were all losers and not worth the time. Then I saw it happen to people I highly respected. Yes various co-workers over the years crashed and burned due to alcohol or drugs. One was a high ranking member of my department and I knew him very well. He had a wreck on duty and was hurt pretty badly. Fast forward a few months and he is addicted to pain pills and forging prescriptions to get them.

He lost everything his career, his marriage, his friends, his reputation and almost his freedom. I worked with this man everyday and he was an incredible person. I remember thinking that if it can happen to him it can happen to anyone. Then as my career advanced I saw many other once great cops lose everything due to mostly alcohol. I stopped judging the addicts and alcoholics then and developed a little more empathy as again I realized it can effect anyone under the right circumstances.

Luckily I have never drank at all nor have I ever even dabbled with any type of drugs. The choice to never even try alcohol has been the best decision of my adult life. I will say that working in a large city I encountered many homeless people. The common denominator of at least 95 percent was that they were all addicts of some sort and also alcoholics. When sober many were actually decent people however the drugs often caused them to be hard to deal with at times. I did know many personally and although many were often arrested we had a mutual respect for each other. I found that many of them were simply unable to control their addictions. They could not quit if they wanted to do so. I can not imagine having that type of problem and trying to figure out how to help them was exhausting.

So many would start to do well and then one tiny slip up and they were back to the depths of addiction. Many confided in me that the rehab centers did not help at all. They explained that the programs intentions were good however the methods never worked. There were several programs that housed maybe 20 addicts all in recovery. The problem they found was maybe 19 of those addicts are doing well then one person in the group slips and then they all start using again. The group seemed to be only as good as the weakest link. Many stated that they needed to be surrounded by people guaranteed to never use rather than other addicts trying to clean up.

It is an epidemic no doubt and as long as drugs are easily available it will continue. I also seriously would support having a dry state with no alcohol allowed at all. I believe I have seen more lives ruined from alcohol than drugs. Alcohol is easier to obtain and many start out socially drinking then it spirals out of control. The sad part is that people will find a way to get things that are bad for them.
 
Knowing my personality, I never experimented with drugs. I knew I'd get addicted and go overboard. Just the way I am. As far as booze, even as a kid, I hated the taste enough that I didn't drink. On my 27th Birthday, I drank too much on purpose just to see what being drunk was like. Apparently I'm a happy, warm, overly friendly drunk. The next morning though, felt like I was dying. Got to experience what a hangover is like. One time being drunk, one time being hung over was enough for my Lifetime.

I'll have a drink or two with friends, on social occasions. But you get older, those moments become fewer. Literally 2 or 3 times per year, I'll have a beer with dinner. Recent studies say there's an apparent link between alcohol and various types of Cancer. Though obviously not from consuming the occasional beer. (Heck, most municipalities put Florid in the water to help with strengthening the populations' teeth. Meanwhile in high enough doses, it'll straight up kill you! This has been documented. Not theoretical.)

Addiction is a horrible thing. It can cause otherwise loving family members to physically brutalize their own loved ones, if they stand in-between them and their drugs. No offense, Robo; I'm sure you've seen that happen while on the Job.
 
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