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My Surefire E1 click tailcap and Surefire Z68 click tailcap work.

Surefire 2-way long clip fits just fine for me.

Tactician head works on my bored E2 body

Tactician head fits and only works on low on my E1 body

Tactician head fits and only works on low on my Malkoff MDC body.

Tactician head works just fine on 2*16340, 2*-18350, 2*18650 and 1*18650.

Comparing output to my V5 Oveready E heads known levels I'd say the 800 lumen high is spot on and I'd say the 5 lumen low is probably a tad higher maybe 7-10 on my sample.
 
There was talk about the clip slot being wider on the Tactician earlier in the thread. After reading Viper's post I tried one of my spare LX2 clips and it fits just fine :)

My light is now exactly as planned for EDC.
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mk2rocco said:
There was talk about the clip slot being wider on the Tactician earlier in the thread. After reading Viper's post I tried one of my spare LX2 clips and it fits just fine :)

My light is now exactly as planned for EDC.
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teak said:
Ok here is my view on the tactitian compared to the edcl2.

I used both tonight around the house as well as outside. Size goes to the tactitian for sure. As well as the ability to attach a lanyard. The tactitian seems to run more normal on a 16650 over the edcl2. The edcl2 works fine on a 16650 with the exception of the low losing output.

The maxvision beam is great. Nice tint. Id say around 5500k. Low is closer to the rated 5 lumens. Low is fairly useful as long as you are up close. Say out to 10 feet. High is very nice and is very wide. Useful to about 50 yards. You can see further of course but as far as identifying a person or animal, 50 yards is good.

The interface is fine. Sure beats cycling through modes like eb1, ed1 etc. However. It isnt as quick going from one mode to the other of course. I still prefer how the interface is on the tactitian over the said eb2 etc. The pocket clip is robust and it will take some extra effort to break it. I do like that. I dont have a problem with the bezel up. Some may.

Overall the tactitian is a great improvement over many of the older offerings. E2D EB2 etc.

As for the edcl2. Size wise is ok but bigger then id like. Doesnt have an easy way to attach a lanyard. Interface is to me the best there is. Lx2 a2 l1 etc gas pedal switch. This latest version works very well. Nice travel and a great feel. The low is higher then the rated 5 lumens. Pretty close to the lx2. Using low on this light is very useful and low is pretty much all thats needed for general use. Beam wise is pretty wide. Much wider then the old tir of lx2 and others. Also better to me then the g2 led that was used in the 500 lumen eb2 e2dlu etc. High is a thing of beauty. Tint wise id say close to 4500k. Better throw then tactitian obviously due to the tir. Spill is very good as well and only giving the tactitian a slight edge in that department. To me the edcl2 is easier to use both modes due to the gas pedal tailcap, thats pretty obvious though. I really like them both and I'm going to keep them both. However if I had to choose just one id probably go with the edcl2.
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Thanks for the info!
 
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mk2rocco said:
There was talk about the clip slot being wider on the Tactician earlier in the thread. After reading Viper's post I tried one of my spare LX2 clips and it fits just fine :)

My light is now exactly as planned for EDC.
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What light is the tailcap that you are using in this picture from?
 
wacbzz said:
What light is the tailcap that you are using in this picture from?
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It's a Z61, not sure what light it's from but it's the same tailcap the E1b MV uses. I may be wrong here, but the tail threads seem a hair shorter than other e series lights I have. Every tailcap I've tried has worked, but the SF clickys just barely make contact before they bottom out.

The tailcap in the picture has a modified McClicky and hard press boot. The modded McClicky switches are longer than the factory switch so no issues with not making contact.
 
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mk2rocco said:
It's a Z61, not sure what light it's from but it's the same tailcap the E1b MV uses. I may be wrong here, but the tail threads seem a hair shorter than other e series lights I have. Every tailcap I've tried has worked, but the SF clickys just barely make contact before they bottom out.

The tailcap in the picture has a modified McClicky and hard press boot. The modded McClicky switches are longer than the factory switch so no issues with not making contact.
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Awesome info. Thank you! :twothumbs
 
He talks about his design decisions in his videos about designing the light over the last year. It's the same decision Surefire made in the beginning and he has been using their lights for many years. I suspect he trained with their early lights got use to it and has stuck to it throughout the years. From the point of view of a defensive tool in conjunction with a firearm if it ain't broke don't fix it.
 
the0dore3524 said:
The two way clip can’t do the same? Not being sarcastic, genuinely interested as I’ve never tried clipping my SFs to a cap.
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You could do that, but the new style is much tougher and less likely to break. Also, Yeager liked bezel up better from a tactical standpoint. He mentioned both of these in his vids. I have been clipping lights to my hats for years now. My favorites are a Eagletac D25LC2 and a Xeno S3AV2. Neutral tint and 18650’s in both. These have served me well and never actually got around to buying a dedicated headlamp. I will be getting a tactician at some point down the line.
 
I agree, Yeager got used to the old way, so why change it? Also, he complained about some of the heads spikes tearing up his jeans. As for the two-way clips, he complained they break a lot, which makes sense for someone like him that carries the light 7 days per week without fail. Also, some of the heads were big and better to not sit on them. But the two-way ones work, are they available to buy?
 
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TacticianMV said:
I agree, Yeager got used to the old way, so why change it? Also, he complained about some of the heads spikes tearing up his jeans. As for the two-way clips, he complained they break a lot, which makes sense for someone like him that carries the light 7 days per wek without fail. Also, some of the heads were big and better to not sit on them. But the two-way ones work, are they available to buy?
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SF will replace them on warranty but not sell them. Im not aware of any other place to buy. If your lucky, you can catch take offs on the Marketplace here sometimes.
 
The E1B MV tailcap works on the Tactician. It is the same as the old E1e cap from what I have seen. I tried both the MV cap and a stock E2e and E1e off my other lights and they all work.
 
I have had my tactician since Tues as well.
Does anyone know the throw of the beam? It is bright as hell and works well. It’s my new edc and fits well like the lumamax but more lumens. Don’t know why anyone would want to go with a clicky tailcap as this light is meant for self defense use. But hey your prerogative.
I was carrying an eb2 but with this smaller head it fits well. Has anyone tried out the edc2T at 1200 lumens? Thoughts?
 
Here you can see a few pics about the edcl2 at 1200 lumens:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?439979-SUREFIRE-EDCL-2T/page17




Schuflea said:
I have had my tactician since Tues as well.
Does anyone know the throw of the beam? It is bright as hell and works well. It’s my new edc and fits well like the lumamax but more lumens. Don’t know why anyone would want to go with a clicky tailcap as this light is meant for self defense use. But hey your prerogative.
I was carrying an eb2 but with this smaller head it fits well. Has anyone tried out the edc2T at 1200 lumens? Thoughts?
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