I mean technically you're getting 1000 lumens.... Yeah, it's legalized fraud.
team olight or fenix?
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So, if I had to choose between those two companies, it would be Fenix without question.
I have several Fenix lights that have been in my collection for many years and are still going strong. With that said I don't really reach for them often or at all. They are usually the light/s I've lent out or gifted...
I have several Fenix lights that have been in my collection for many years and are still going strong. With that said I don't really reach for them often or at all. They are usually the light/s I've lent out or gifted...
AGREED! Which is precisely what I referred to with the phrase "Lumen race" in Post #3. When I read a light - any light - is X Lumen, I expect (despite knowing better) that light to be able to maintain that number until the battery cannot deliver the power anymore.
They could all have skipped the thermally limited <30 second Turbo mode, and any High mode too that is thermally unsustainable. And I really don't care what any manufacturer argues - a 1000 Lumen flashlight that drops to 500 Lumen after 2 minutes due to heat is either a 500 Lumen flashlight, and should be marketed as such, or inadequately built in my book.
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Blame the ANSI direct drive standard... it's why I appreciate Malkoff. Olight doesn't do TOO badly about their lower runtimes these days, and they're pretty transparent about stepdowns...I want to say they were among the first to do that.
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Of the two....I like Fenix, but HATE the double switch tailcaps. And, I think, after using the crap out of it (and owning way too many lights to compare), that the Olight Warrior X4 is the best "Tactical" light currently available.
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When I was working the ONLY hi-power handheld light was a Streamlight (SL-20 I think). What an upgrade from the weak, heavy 5 D-cell Key-Lites.
So years later dipping my toe into the LED tech, O-Light was my first LED. The pricing was good, the quality ok, and it was metal unlike the Streamlight I carried.
But all the marketing games O-light plays and the proprietary batteries quelled my interest. So I started with Fenix. Nice lights, better emitters, simpler UIs for the most part and yes, more expensive.
I see a lot of names and have no idea what are solid lines of lights and what are esoteric thrown around as flex.
A very recent email showed a markup in Fenix pricing and then a 20% "sale" price offered. Everybody seems to do that but it doesn't sit well with me.
Both brands offer a very confusing array of lumen awesomeness. Lower lumens with a greater throw than some of their lights with much higher lumen stats.
What it seemed to get me was much more spill than I wanted. I asked about "throwers" in another thread and got a suggestion of LEPs. Hard pass.
Anyway of the two choices above, it would be Fenix. I'm not locked into it, it's just what I stumbled on to.
There are two 1 x AAA Zebralights in the mix but they're a little small.
So years later dipping my toe into the LED tech, O-Light was my first LED. The pricing was good, the quality ok, and it was metal unlike the Streamlight I carried.
But all the marketing games O-light plays and the proprietary batteries quelled my interest. So I started with Fenix. Nice lights, better emitters, simpler UIs for the most part and yes, more expensive.
I see a lot of names and have no idea what are solid lines of lights and what are esoteric thrown around as flex.
A very recent email showed a markup in Fenix pricing and then a 20% "sale" price offered. Everybody seems to do that but it doesn't sit well with me.
Both brands offer a very confusing array of lumen awesomeness. Lower lumens with a greater throw than some of their lights with much higher lumen stats.
What it seemed to get me was much more spill than I wanted. I asked about "throwers" in another thread and got a suggestion of LEPs. Hard pass.
Anyway of the two choices above, it would be Fenix. I'm not locked into it, it's just what I stumbled on to.
There are two 1 x AAA Zebralights in the mix but they're a little small.
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I guess I'm a lone holdout. I'm team Olight. I have a Fenix light but I couldn't tell you where. I own dozens of Olights and carry one or two daily. I personally love Olight's charging system, it's fast and easy. But, to each their own.
It’s all about personal experience. I have an Olight and Nitecore that played up so my last three purchased have been Fenix because I have a Fenix that has given good service. I don’t really worry too much about the lumens but focus more on watching video reviews online that at least give you some indication. Lumens are only part of the equation. There is also LED type, reflector or lens and how far down the LED is seated in the reflector or lens. As above….to each there own.
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Team Onix.
I've had a few Olights, and I can why people like them, but I'm done with the brand. I think they are a bit 'style over substance'.
I've only had one Fenix, a tiny E03R (the first one). It's impressive regarding build quality and output, but quite useless when it comes to real world use. I'm sure their 'proper' lights are decent, and I would consider one, but there are more budget friendly brands I would prefer to spend my money on,
If I had to choose a 'team', it would be Fenix, but I'm certainly no fan boy.
I've only had one Fenix, a tiny E03R (the first one). It's impressive regarding build quality and output, but quite useless when it comes to real world use. I'm sure their 'proper' lights are decent, and I would consider one, but there are more budget friendly brands I would prefer to spend my money on,
If I had to choose a 'team', it would be Fenix, but I'm certainly no fan boy.
Not sure what you mean by 'real world'. I buy lights trying to be specifically related to what I will use them for. My recent purchase of a Fenix E03R had me quite a fan. I only really use it around the house which is what I bought it for. Any waking moment is 'real world' and the E03R works at home as does my Fenix TK05R for a small pocket thrower which I use for building inspections. Having said that I did actually use my E03R in a large black painted wall auditorium, at night, and was able to light the whole place up. (size of auditorium, approx 25 x 25). It was quite impressive.
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Yes. That’s why I don’t really focus (excuse the pun) on turbo modes as they lull you into a false sense of overwhelming light when you also get overwhelming short run times. Good place to look is the run time graphs and see how quickly that power drops off for the power you likely will need for the work you do. Also, forget the turbo and focus on the lumen level that comes in second or third brightness mode selection of the light. This could be your sweet spot. So if a light says 3000 lumens for an hour, which we know won’t happen, then look at what you get for runtime at say 350 lumens and if 350 lumens will get the job done and offers a true, ‘based on the graph’ run time then you probably will have hit the jackpot.
Ooh, brother, you are in for one rude awakening when you realize those things are mostly suited for lighting the way to a bigger light, with actual runtime. But I agree with the sentiment - at least that is my excuse for owning, well, with the ones I just ordered...80 lights. I obviously need them all - a small light to find the bigger light (3-4x 18650 / 2-3x 21700) in the dark, then another big one in case the first big one runs out of battery. 2 headlamps - one small and one big, depending on how much handsfree light you expect to be needing (small oen for getting the mail and the big one when doing work). 1 light for doing walks - with another as a backup. 2 emergency lights in the car. Several hCRI lights for various detail works. Basically at least 1 ligt in every room. And yes, this wall of text is very much intentional.
This ties very well into your post above, because for me...that is pretty much the same light. And it's a Fenix.
I have fallen in love with the LR35R for multiple reasons:
Fenix LR35R Rechargeable Flashlight - 10000 Lumens
The LR35R is an extremely powerful 10000 lumen flashlight that is capable of blasting an incredible amount of light, and is only 5.5” long!
www.fenixlighting.com
10.000 Lumen max (which is the meaningless Turbo you referred), but it can actually do 3000 Lumen - which I actually often use and need - for a reasonable amount of time. It got both the runtime and the power and the portability to technically replace several other lights. Which is why I own three LR35R's...and wanting at least one more. Only downside is it does nothing for my hCRI needs. But 1200 Lumen for 3 hours, or even 450 Lumen for 8 hours? That's easily room illumination levels if the power is out and it's dark outside. Though for that specific use I got a Sofirn BLF LT1 lantern, plus a 30.000 mAh powerbank.
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Enjoy your light world. Sounds like you’re having a lot of fun. Glad you like your LR35R, I will have a look at this. I just got a PD32R and whilst I haven’t done much with it, like it. It gets me about 8 or so hours at 100 lumens and that works for me with the higher settings as a bonus should I need them.Ooh, brother, you are in for one rude awakening when you realize those things those things are mostly suited for lighting the way to a bigger light, with actual runtime.
But I agree with the sentiment - at least that is my excuse for owning, well, with the ones I just ordered...80 lights. I obviously need them all - a small light to find the bigger light (3-4x 18650 / 2-3x 21700) in the dark, then another big one in case the first big one runs out of battery. 2 headlamps - one small and one big, depending on how much handsfree light you expect to be needing (small oen for getting the mail and the big one when doing work). 1 light for doing walks - with another as a backup. 2 emergency lights in the car. Several hCRI lights for various detail works. Basically at least 1 ligt in every room. And yes, this wall of text is very much intentional.
This ties very well into your post above, because for me...that is pretty much the same light. And it's a Fenix.
I have fallen in love with the LR35R for multiple reasons:
Fenix LR35R Rechargeable Flashlight - 10000 Lumens
The LR35R is an extremely powerful 10000 lumen flashlight that is capable of blasting an incredible amount of light, and is only 5.5” long!
10.000 Lumen max (which is the meaningless Turbo you referred), but it can actually do 3000 Lumen - which I actually often use and need - for a reasonable amount of time. It got both the runtime and the power and the portability to technically replace several other lights. Which is why I own three LR35R's...and wanting at least one more. Only downside is it does nothing for my hCRI needs. But 1200 Lumen for 3 hours, or even 450 Lumen for 8 hours? That's easily room illumination levels if the power is out and it's dark outside. Though for that specific use I got a Sofirn BLF LT1 lantern, plus a 30.000 mAh powerbank.
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Ooh, brother, you are in for one rude awakening when you realize those things those things are mostly suited for lighting the way to a bigger light, with actual runtime.
But I agree with the sentiment - at least that is my excuse for owning, well, with the ones I just ordered...80 lights. I obviously need them all - a small light to find the bigger light (3-4x 18650 / 2-3x 21700) in the dark, then another big one in case the first big one runs out of battery. 2 headlamps - one small and one big, depending on how much handsfree light you expect to be needing (small oen for getting the mail and the big one when doing work). 1 light for doing walks - with another as a backup. 2 emergency lights in the car. Several hCRI lights for various detail works. Basically at least 1 ligt in every room. And yes, this wall of text is very much intentional.
This ties very well into your post above, because for me...that is pretty much the same light. And it's a Fenix.
I have fallen in love with the LR35R for multiple reasons:
Fenix LR35R Rechargeable Flashlight - 10000 Lumens
The LR35R is an extremely powerful 10000 lumen flashlight that is capable of blasting an incredible amount of light, and is only 5.5” long!
10.000 Lumen max (which is the meaningless Turbo you referred), but it can actually do 3000 Lumen - which I actually often use and need - for a reasonable amount of time. It got both the runtime and the power and the portability to technically replace several other lights. Which is why I own three LR35R's...and wanting at least one more. Only downside is it does nothing for my hCRI needs. But 1200 Lumen for 3 hours, or even 450 Lumen for 8 hours? That's easily room illumination levels if the power is out and it's dark outside. Though for that specific use I got a Sofirn BLF LT1 lantern, plus a 30.000 mAh powerbank
For me, ‘real world’ use was to have the light on my keyring for the odd ocassions that I might need a light when out and about. For example: Returning to a car park at night and finding it unlit.
Whenever I went to actually use the light in such situations, most of the time the battery was flat. The light would activate in my pocket and drain the battery. The lock out function didn’t help much. Even in a bag it found a way of turning on.
The light is too small for me to be any use other than on a keyring, and it that respect it didn’t work for me. I love everything else about it, but if it doesn’t work when I need it, it’s useless.
My Olights did actually work as intended, to a degree, until they didn’t. I think the brand ‘flatters to deceive’ to a degree, whilst I’m not prepared to give up on Fenix due to one bad experience…
I'm team anything but Olight.
I've bought 3 olights, got 1 as a gift. 2 are still working.
Gave a m2r to my wife (since I don't like it), she hates it too. She hates charging it. The other one is tiny, like smaller than a AAA. forgot where it even is.
She loves the Noctigon KR4. Took her a while to get used to the anduril2, but it's her go to when walking the dogs at night.
I've bought 3 olights, got 1 as a gift. 2 are still working.
Gave a m2r to my wife (since I don't like it), she hates it too. She hates charging it. The other one is tiny, like smaller than a AAA. forgot where it even is.
She loves the Noctigon KR4. Took her a while to get used to the anduril2, but it's her go to when walking the dogs at night.
Older, simpler U.I. Olight models are definitely better. Sadly it seems those are being phased out.
It comes with the cell. It's a quality cell. And it's been modified so it can work with their onboard charging. So why is it being proprietary a bad thing?
I personally own a few lights from just about every darn brand out there.
I still use my old Fenix TK16, built like a tank and has served me well.
I also own a couple of Olight oclip pro's. Handy little buggers.
Also, Olight has a lifetime warranty on their lights as of 2023.
It all comes down to whatever makes you happy, just buy them all.
I still use my old Fenix TK16, built like a tank and has served me well.
I also own a couple of Olight oclip pro's. Handy little buggers.
Also, Olight has a lifetime warranty on their lights as of 2023.
It all comes down to whatever makes you happy, just buy them all.
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