The Official Zebralight Thread

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ZL, push and hold...

low, medium, high.

ps, just one of those seemingly hundreds of levels above what you need blows out your night vision.

i'll stick with my primitive ZL.

WebHobbit said:
well to be fair it KIND OF does that with a few STEPS. Not a smooth ramp with seemingly hundreds of levels
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I’ve tried to like auduril, I’ll take ZL interface all day long. Don’t like the ramp. At all. I know 3 clicks gets u to steps. Still don’t care for it
 
WebHobbit said:
My ZL 600 series lights were my EDC for years....until I discovered the Emisar D4v2 and Anduril's ramping UI. The ZLs are better in several different ways (better regulation and efficiency...maybe a tiny bit better build quality)....but the ZL UI is just absolute poop compared to the utter simplicity of Anduril (click once to turn on.....hold to ramp up stop quickly and hold again to reverse direction...click once to turn off). Yes of course Anduril has a whole slew of advanced stuff it can do and some of it is downright silly but you NEVER have to touch any of it if you don't want to. And I have NEVER ever accidentally hit the lame disco mode. I have a few times with ZL but not often. If Emisar ever put out a nice D4v2 sized light with a single emitter option and reflector it's Game Over ZL for me anyway. I wish I could get a ZL600 series light with Anduril!
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You've just made the case on exactly why I prefer the ZL interface. I don't have to hold and ramp, let go, reverse, etc.

Most of what I read about people getting that D4v2 is because they want to do stupid sh*t like starting fires, ghetto flashing different colors and strobes, etc. I've read very few posts about people usi g them to light and object to perform a task, you know, what's flashlights are typically used for.


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Agree to disagree guys I have accidentally tripped the disco mode more than a few times with my ZLs.....but NEVER with Anduril. Don't get me wrong though ZL is better than ANY OTHER UI (besides Anduril). What I really wish is for someone to just STOP having disco modes! dumbest thing ever conceived
 
Re: The Official Zebralight Thread

i use the strobe in safety situations like when i want to be visible to cars. it is important.

if you accidentally trigger strobe all the time and don't like the feature, consider setting the frequency to something that doesn't annoy you. they have some very slow ones.

as for ramping... i don't find it useful.
doesn't hurt to have as an option, but i prefer ZL UI for everyday use because it forces me to use premeditated, known output levels. i get a lot of runtime, and it's relatively predictable. i have the estimated runtimes more or less memorized for the 6 output levels in my settings bank (group 6).

if you're using ramping, you don't really know the output level, and you may be using more power than you think/need.

ZL firmware is more practical.
 
Re: The Official Zebralight Thread

What I like about my SC64w HI is that it sustains output for quite awhile.

I love my D4v2 and FW3A for their "blow your socks off output" and ability to have very high CRI at very high output.

However, when I need to actually perform a task that is going to take more than a couple minutes the Zebralight is just better. Peak output isn't nearly as high as those pocket rockets... but those lights get hot fast and ramp down quickly. The Zebralight with its superior unibody construction manages heat much better for extended periods.
 
Bob_McBob said:
Coincidentally they just got rid of the pogo pins in the SC64c LE and SC64w HI. There has been a lot of debate on Reddit about whether this is an improvement.

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Are these just bent copper bands? This does not look like an upgrade/improvement over pogo pins to me.
It does look a lot cheaper to manufacture, though ...
 
Connor said:
Are these just bent copper bands? This does not look like an upgrade/improvement over pogo pins to me.
It does look a lot cheaper to manufacture, though ...
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I think it's a compression connector of this style. It may be cheaper, but I suspect the change was largely due to complaints about the pogo pins damaging cell terminals. I did a bunch of testing, and the only cell I have that doesn't work is a severely dented NCR18650GA, because there's just no way for it to physically make contact. That cell does work with the pogo pins though.

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GIANT fan of Anduril. And I definitely know how to use the heck out of the multiple interfaces of my 22 Zebralights. Would LOVE for ZL to have an option for Anduril. Doubleclick = high (high, or whatever level you already programmed). Press and hold and goes from dim to bright, unless you release and press again to go the opposite way. I love all the different options of Anduril.

No matter how careful I am, I have triggered medium on my ZLs while trying to press and hold long enough for low. Typically this happens when I'm using a light while being active and I blow through low, either because I didn't see that it was on low or I held it for a few milliseconds too long. To prevent this, I generally program single click for low, second click for high. That gives you two options with clicks, unless you click a third time and launch strobe. Or I don't hold it long enough and go straight to high (if not programmed for low).

Anduril solves the biggest issues I have with the ZL interface. I never blow my night vision. I can get to full blast instantly. I can adjust in less in seconds to the exact level I want.
 
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id30209 said:
Also, that shelf doesn’t look solid anymore. Or is it just me?
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Looks the same inside and out, with the usual solid shelf and machined cavity. They just updated the little cell terminal PCB to hold the new style connector.
 
JimIslander said:
GIANT fan of Anduril. And I definitely know how to use the heck out of the multiple interfaces of my 22 Zebralights. Would LOVE for ZL to have an option for Anduril. Doubleclick = high (high, or whatever level you already programmed). Press and hold and goes from dim to bright, unless you release and press again to go the opposite way. I love all the different options of Anduril.

No matter how careful I am, I have triggered medium on my ZLs while trying to press and hold long enough for low. Typically this happens when I'm using a light while being active and I blow through low, either because I didn't see that it was on low or I held it for a few milliseconds too long. To prevent this, I generally program single click for low, second click for high. That gives you two options with clicks, unless you click a third time and launch strobe. Or I don't hold it long enough and go straight to high (if not programmed for low).

Anduril solves the biggest issues I have with the ZL interface. I never blow my night vision. I can get to full blast instantly. I can adjust in less in seconds to the exact level I want.
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The most recent Zebralights allow you to program the different mode groups. It's fairly easy to setup an Olight style UI so that a single-click goes to low, double-click goes to high, and click and hold cycles upwards from low to medium.

This setup solves the problem of accidentally blasting yourself with high when you wanted low.
 
I like to think of the UI as a "coarse" ramp. I program click to low, hold to medium, double to high. I think 6 modes is a nice amount.

The only qualm I have is sometimes I forget which sub-mode I'm in and if a double-click will get me brighter or not.

I think a cool way ZL could handle this is by adding a click-hold feature that takes you to the next lower mode, and maybe make double-click take you up to one higher mode, and these clicks could traverse the groups. That way, pressing and holding is a coarse ramp, double-click is step up, click-hold is a step down (or maybe use triple click, that's kinda useless for most of us). Whichever sub-mode you were last in is remembered the next time you coarse ramp.
 
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I'm one of the few that don't like ramping. I like knowing roughly how long the light will run for at each setting.
 
I’m seeing a 6300K CW option. Does that mean the W tints are gone?

My only experience with ZL is about a month with a SC64c. Would the H32 be able to be programmed to single click to Low? It looks like to get to Low you have to press-and-hold (then release before it cycles to Med).
 
Celery said:
I’m seeing a 6300K CW option. Does that mean the W tints are gone?

My only experience with ZL is about a month with a SC64c. Would the H32 be able to be programmed to single click to Low? It looks like to get to Low you have to press-and-hold (then release before it cycles to Med).
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This is the neutral white version: http://zebralight.com/H32w-CR123-Headlamp-Neutral-White_p_242.html

The H32 is a previous generation Zebralight model, so it only has the "G5" programming of current models. You can program the lower level on each mode, but you can't do stuff like single click to low.
 
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