The Walking Dead ***POSSIBLE SPOILERS*** - You've Been Warned!

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It's about timesomeone shows up on the series with a sword. That gal is pretty cool and knowsher stuff. She even does the twitch after a cut with the Katana to flick theblood away before the puts it's back in it's Saya (Scabbard). I've got anoriginal bring home Gunto (WWII Katana) that I suspect the blade was older thanthe 1934 pattern Tuska (grip) and Saya. It's folded steel with a nice Hamonthat leads me to believe it was made in the old original way in the early1800's or late 1700's. Now back to The Walking Dead, I can't understand whymore have not come up with better swords instead of machetes, crowbars andhammers. Shoot I've been collecting swords for the past 10 years and zombiesbeware I've got enough for my friends and family. All except one are polishedsharp ready for business. Between thatan my guns we are ready to hold down our little place in the country. :caution:;)
 
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remember, Rick mentioned "it's in all of us", so not contagious.



But of course it is still contagious. Personally, I believe that the amount of virus one's body is exposed to determines whether or not one will "turn" in a rather short time, or will be able to die of natural or violent causes before becoming zombified. Look at AIDS, although that might be an awkward comparison at best - get it in your bloodstream, and you're carrying the infection, French-kiss an infected girl, you most likely will not get it. Mostly every physician will tell you so.



ElectronGuru, you pointed that out very well!



So, in conclusion: The living are all carrying the infection, yet it won't break out until they actually die of whatever cause. They get bitten, and thus exposed to a high viral dose, and they turn rather soon. Just my opinion on things, rather reasonable and explainable. Yours may differ, feel free to chime in!



Amputation has been done before. First time I saw it was in a kung-fu movie. Master was poisoned in his arm, then demanded that one of his students cut off the limb before the poison could travel through his body and reach his heart.



Amputation would work indeed, given a few medical requirements. In case of slow tissue degradation, also known as necrosis, it is performed a hundred-fold across the US, the UK and Europe each and every day, to prevent sepsis and blood poisoning. Think of all the diabetes patients where limbs are being amputated – toes, mostly, sometimes feet and whole legs, even. Word of advice: quit smoking! – oh… and don't get bitten by a zombie.



I also hope they put in a mean weapon on Hershel as well.


Don't we all? – Besides, last time I saw Hershel, he carried what looked like an AR15 variant, an M4 probably. Imfdb might tell us what he really carried when they were securing the prison yard in E2.


Let's face it, so far, Hershel is the only one with profound medical knowledge in the series. Being a veterinary surgeon, he is of great value; knowing his way around organs, tissue, limbs, blood pressure and surgical instruments. Primarily, he is not a fighter, and episode 2 just proved that. Not that he would be useless with a gun – it is just that his medical knowledge is far more important than pulling a trigger.
As for the series itself – being fond of anything apocalyptic, dystopian, zombie-whatever in modern pop culture, I absolutely love the "Walking Dead". Permanently depending on medical drugs myself, I wouldn't last long in such a world, though. One good whiff of certain pollen, and I'd be gone for good. Can zombies get asthma, too?!?



It is a refreshing difference in today's media to see at least a bit of some common sense whipped into a TV series – like, ammunition won't last forever. Save your cartridges, don't even think of full-auto fire. Norman Reedus' crossbow is a sensible weapon, rather quiet (depicted a wee bit too quiet in the series, a 125 lb Horton Scout would still make quite some noise when fired. However, I was puzzled to see a riot helmet visor withstanding his bolts – medieval European crossbolts have been tested and proved to be able to penetrate bulletproof vests rated for 9x19 ammo).


The latest episodes were stunning. I am glad the producers dared to bring up questionable questions, and to show questionable things. It is rather realistic… and as much as I condemn the "Governor's" actions in episode three, I can understand his motif. Not that I would do the same if I was in his position…. But then again, probably ten months after the gov' is out, and when you've managed to secure a whole town, and keep it safe – what would you do... ?


This series is enthralling. It keeps one thinking; long after the TV set has been switched off.

I like that.
 

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I wonder... You turn when you're bitten; you turn you die...

So, how come there were so many dead bodies that didn't turn. So, not all died turn into zombies.

So what is the qualification to NOT turn?
 
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I wonder... You turn when you're bitten; you turn you die...

So, how come there were so many dead bodies that didn't turn. So, not all died turn into zombies.

So what is the qualification to NOT turn?

A percentage of the population that developed an immunity to the virus. It has happened in real life with actual outbreaks. (Though obviously not the coming-back-from-the-dead kind.) I think we'll see something similar. Perhaps even stumbled onto in an odd way. Guy traveling with a group. They get attacked. He makes it out alive. But not without getting bitten on the arm. A small bite that he covers up with a long-sleeved shirt. Meets up with a new group of survivors. Doesn't tell them. He doesn't turn. Then during a smaller attack, the group notices that the zombies treat their new member as if he was one of them. They just ignore him. Or, shuffle by him without trying to eat him. The group notices his "strange power" over them. They make him their leader. Eventually, Rick and the gang meet up with the new group. Suddenly they learn that the rules no longer quite apply. They don't know why. They just know this guy is different.
 

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I'm having people over on Sunday for dinner, drinks, and passing out candy...but they've all been warned that at 10 the tube comes on and the dead will walk and the living will be quiet.

Anyone else excited about The Walking Dead on AMC? The comic was very well written and it looks like the show will be too.

Wait, there was a Walking Dead comic book? I thought this show was just purely a TV series, but if there is a comic version, did they already run the whole program in the book?

I try and watch it every week if possible and I've seen every episode this season, but I missed a few due to a move where we shut off everything but basic cable before moving, then didnt move til 4 weeks later, so AMC wasnt on the list of basic cable channels we got at that time. But when I got into the new house, i went to view "On-Demand" to catch the episodes I missed, but they werent playing them, they were only playing the ones I had seen, so I am a bit confused about parts of whats going on now...

Aside from the whole idea of zombies walking the earth eating everyone, which is just part of the zombie-show mythology, there's another huge hole in the zombie plot here. These people are dead, and they are obviously decomposing. So wouldnt it be prudent to just lock yourself in somewhere and wait 2-3 weeks til they decomposed to the point to where their bodies just start falling apart and they cant get around to chase you anymore? It wouldnt take long for that to happen, plus flies and other insects would be laying eggs all over them and that would speed up the decomposition process. I dont see that happening at all yet. Maybe the flies and insects are now zombies, and they too only seek out live food to lay eggs on now!

Just saying......

But not knocking the show, as I think its great, and I've been a fan of the zombie genre for a long time....
 
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I suppose the common zombie still has some kind of metabolism; albeit a very slow one, to support their bodily functions. Thus, it might be possible that they are decomposing at a much slower rate than usual.
 

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I don't if i should spoil it for those that havn't seen episode 2 but in that one the 'governer's' nerdy science guy determined that the 2 zombies that were chained with arms and jaws cut off were in fact starving. They have a very slow metabolic rate, like a sloth. I guess that's why they don't run fast ;)

Also, in episode 1 series 1, rick was told by the bloke and his son that all the bodies around the hospital were
put down' by the army.

I love the series. I watch it on cable then buy it on itunes so i can have it on my ipod when camping ;)

cheers
 

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Find an island, stay there for 5 or 6 years. By then, everyone who is a zombie or would have died and come back as one will have rotted away to nothing. But with "The Walking Dead," that wouldn't make for much of a story-line. So they decided that everyone is a zombie or a carrier of the virus. That presents its own issues though that the show's producers are (so far) completely ignoring.
 

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Find an island, stay there for 5 or 6 years. By then, everyone who is a zombie or would have died and come back as one will have rotted away to nothing. But with "The Walking Dead," that wouldn't make for much of a story-line. So they decided that everyone is a zombie or a carrier of the virus. That presents its own issues though that the show's producers are (so far) completely ignoring.

but, even if get away so far, to some remote place without zombies, you or one of your companions will eventually die in an accident or naturally during his sleeps, without nobody realized, and then, it will become in to zombie and kill you in your sleep.

ps S.F.M.B.E.
 

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I have short temr memory when it comes to names, so I dont remember half the characters names, so bare with me here. I have been hoping the 2 girls(names?) will leave that town with the "governor" before he either enslaves or kills them. I like how bad-a** the black girl is, but I was worried the she was going to be murdered out right when she started asking questions about how all the bullet holes and blood got all over the military vehicles that the governor and his men stole after killing that group of soldiers.

Now what will probably happen is that the other girl will refuse to leave, and the governor will end up murdering the black girl because she suspects what he's up to. That and did anyone notice the picture on the governors wall of his wife, who looked like the blond haired girl? I think he wants her to stay and become his wife or something, which means he'll have to kill the other girls who keeps trying to talk her into leaving.

Whats up with the governor anyway? Whats with all the heads in the fish tanks? I didnt get that....
 

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Walking dead future?


**Whats your opinion on these Walking Dead possibilities?: 1. Do you think the 2 prisoners will now be welcomed into the fold by Rick and the others? 2. Will the governor and his people ever find the other group including Rick and everyone else at the prison? 3. Will that redneck dude who was left handcuffed to the roof in season 1 ever find his brother and the other group? 4. What major character will die next?

**Any personal predictions?: I predict the black girl will kill the governor at some point...
 

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but, even if get away so far, to some remote place without zombies, you or one of your companions will eventually die in an accident or naturally during his sleeps, without nobody realized, and then, it will become in to zombie and kill you in your sleep.

ps S.F.M.B.E.

Yeah, that's the Walking Dead version that makes that a terrible option. In other versions, you have to get bit or badly scratched before you turn. So, in a George Romero zombie film, the island option is still a good one.
 

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Yeah, that's the Walking Dead version that makes that a terrible option. In other versions, you have to get bit or badly scratched before you turn. So, in a George Romero zombie film, the island option is still a good one.

Umm, you do know that the Walking Dead zombies are the same as George Romero zombies. No bite required, you die you turn. Been that way since 1968.
 

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Umm, you do know that the Walking Dead zombies are the same as George Romero zombies. No bite required, you die you turn. Been that way since 1968.

Well, there was that one film in which you turned because of a virus, and you couldn't even kill them with a blow to the back of the head. That was just going too far, with that last bit. Still, it's unfortunate that The Walking Dead decided to take the same route regarding turning into a zombie when you automatically die. Not only would suicides increase with emphasis on destroying the brain. But it basically means that all Mankind is automatically doomed to eventual extinction since why bother trying to continue the human race if zombification will always take place after death. Communities such as the one the Governor created would never be sustainable in the long run. Plus, a bigger population would be even worse since the instant anyone dies, they become a zombie and could go on a killing spree. If it happens late a night, in one house filled with plenty of sleeping people, the results could be disastrous!

The Producers of the show have conveniently decided to ignore all these potential issues.
 

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IF the infection only occurred during the outbreak (to those alive at the time), AND is not transmitted through the blood placental barrier, newborns would provide the basis for a new disease free humanity.
 

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IF the infection only occurred during the outbreak (to those alive at the time), AND is not transmitted through the blood placental barrier, newborns would provide the basis for a new disease free humanity.

True. But the issue is, if Society starts getting back to normal, every adult NOW would have to be quarantined. Never allowed back into public. But how do you do that since little kids can't raise themselves. And you never know when a carrier might die unexpectedly. Such as heart attack, stroke, or by a myriad of accidents. They return from the Dead and are thus a threat to their own children. That's why everyone alive now being a carrier just doesn't work.

In the classic play "Inherit the Wind," there's a huge time-line issue that apparently everyone (including the authors) missed. And it's a huge one! It's one that screws up the main argument by the defense attorney. Since it's of a blatantly religious nature, I'm not going to go into detail. My main point is that sometimes a premise or concept is introduced in which the authors or Producers clearly haven't thought things through. This whole, "Everyone is infected and is a carrier" thing is one of those.
 

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the zombie theme as we know it today originated during a time of social changes, and questioning of morale standards as well as political views.
Not being a political person myself, and rather make my own conclusions than to rely on election canvassing, I still like that approach.

In the 1960's, people were gaining a consciousness, and asking quite uncomfortable questions. Women's lib, the Vietnam war, the Black Panthers, Watts Riots, Watergate, you name it. Zombies, back then (and even today) could have been regarded as the "ever-dreaded, slowly approaching threat, infiltrating society" - like communists. More than once, Romero's zombies have been thought of as a metaphor for communists, slowly subverting society and our western standards of freedom. Alone, they pose no threat as they can be easily defeated or outrun, but when they come in huge masses, they are a deadly force to reckon with. A political and sociological phenomenon.

I have read numerous postings across the internet about Andrea, played by actress Laurie Holden, calling her *insert derogatory term here*. Personally, the character she plays has her faults like we all do. She's a bit too overzealous at times, quite easily convinced of questionable strategies and agitatorial ideas, but I believe she's a good girl. Michonne will surely whip some more common sense and cautiousness into her (not regarding zombies - it's the living and talking people who tempt Andrea's weak side, IMHO)

oh, back to flashlights - I have seen videos being posted on youtube where M@glites have been converted to silencers, more or less effectively. Better have your BATF stamp ready before doomsday! However, I bet such a conversion will royally suck on lumens output.

If I may ask, who has ever read about Wyndham's "Triffids"? No zombies, but a grade-A doomsday novel when it comes to the end of mankind and society... especially when nobody is left to take care of sewers and water purification plants. That novel was written over 50 years ago, so today, you might want to mix in lots and lots of facilities of the chemical industries, and NPPs. Things don't look good, should a pandemic zombie outbreak ever become reality. How long do the facilities for wasted nuclear fuels maintain themselves, on auto? five years, six, maybe?
 
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*Spoiler Alert* Do not read on if you have not watched Season 3, Ep5 yet!!!!


Just watched S3.Ep5, and I got a couple of questions:

1) where's Lori's body? It couldn't have been completely eaten by that ONE zombie bones and all???
2) Rick picked up what appears to be the bullet that Carl shot Lori with right??? So did Carl actually shoot his mom or did she turn? There were bloody drag marks leading away from where Lori's body lay so was she dragged off and eaten or did she turn into a zombie?
 
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