Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

[cyclesport]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

Glad you got your connection issues somewhat sorted. As far as programmable features go- you can toggle the moonlight to low output by starting with the head loose, then turn on the light, and then quickly repeat tight and loose three times. For mode memory (remembers the last output) start with head tight, turn on the light, and repeat loose and tight for three times.

Others can chime in on the 16340 vs CR123a's and how it affects modes, but I've had some version of every D25C clicky since it was launched in 2012 and they ALL loose medium w/any batt. over 3v. IMO if you want all modes to function then stick to primary batteries.

 

[mckeand13]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

Can anyone confirm if the 2014 D25A Ti Clicky with Nichia 219 is using a 219a or 219b?

Thanks

 

[Lithium466]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

Mine is using a 219B, bought it in april or may 2014.

 

[mckeand13]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

Mine is using a 219B, bought it in april or may 2014.

Thanks. Are there physical differences or how does one tell them apart? Or is it just a lack of "rosiness"?

 

[reppans]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

Thanks. Are there physical differences or how does one tell them apart? Or is it just a lack of "rosiness"?

The A die has black dashes around the edge, the B does not. I have one of the earliest D25A N219s and mine is an A.

clicky

 

[gurdygurds]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

Figured I would add my experience with Eagletac's D25a clicky to this thread. I am on my THIRD copy of this light, xml2u2 version. 1st one, threads so bad i could barely get the head on and off. Returned it. 2nd one fell out of my hand from about 3.5 ft and landed on the tile floor. Died. Returned it. #3 which I have right now, has just shown me it is completely NOT water tight. I RINSED it in the sink and dried it off, only to notice 10 minutes later the head all fogged up from condensation. Unscrewed the head and there is water all up the threads past the o-ring. Unscrewed the bezel and theres all sorts of water in there with the reflector as well. I don't know how but it's still working. Let everything dry out and pieced it back together. Maybe I have awful luck, but my assessment is that these are cool lights, with very mediocre build quality and less than great reliability. For a $50 flashlight I find this kind of thing disappointing and pretty lame. Boo

 

[Crazyeddiethefirst]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

I own three of these in Titanium and one hard anodized. All four have been modded by Vinh(1 V1, 2 V2 and one V3). All are awesome and none have failed-I guess Vinh is the answer to the lack of durability in the stock versions...


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[loquutis79]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

I have four. Clicky replaced on one after a year and a half.(D25LC2) And a wonky UI problem in a D25C ti. Quick replacement parts from ET China with no questions asked. So not perfect, but not bad enough to dislike the brand.
just bought my fifth ET two weeks ago.

 

[lilypirogova]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

great flashlights, planning to buy this.

 

[luisdent]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

I love my d25a. I have only had two issues. First, I clipped it to the visor in my car when I was installing a stereo one night. Unfortunately, the pressure caused the clip to become permanently bent outwards too much. this doesn't happen with my 4sevens light clip. I removed the clip and bent it back, but it now doesn't have the rigidity it had when new. I think the steel just wasn't hardened in the way a nice clip is. Not a deal breaker, but I wish the clip were stronger when flexed. Second, and more of just an annoyance, when I put a diffuser on the light even a small amount of pressure causes the light to go into full brightness mode. As though the head were tightened. This happens even if I loosen the head more first.

Otherwise, it serves me well. It lasts a long time, fills most rooms fully with light if I bounce it on the ceiling. I wish it had a moonlight mode like my quark, but it's still greatly versatile. I'm glad to own one.

 

[jon_slider]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

D25C on sale
I wont buy it because of the PWM, that selfbuilt says is not there, and reppans says IS there.

I dont understand how selfbuilt can report no PWM when a user can see it.. maybe Im confusing all the different models?

 

[reppans]

Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

D25C on sale
I wont buy it because of the PWM, that selfbuilt says is not there, and reppans says IS there.

I dont understand how selfbuilt can report no PWM when a user can see it.. maybe Im confusing all the different models?

Selfbuilt did not test the D25A, which is all I own. The D25A only uses PWM on a couple of modes (and it's the fastest I've ever photographed), and moonlight has slow PWM-like pulsation (depending upon sample and voltage) on moonlight.

Here are three D25A samples swept along with an HDS across a time exposure. You really can't "see" PWM this fast unless you know exactly how to look for it - I never noticed it until another reviewer pointed it out.

And a typical D25A moonlight on low voltage vs a Quark moonlight - cellphone test and time exposure.

 

[jon_slider]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

The D25A only uses PWM on a couple of modes

thank you for the excellent photos of the PWM!

we have a difference of interpretation of the word PWM
reppans shows the D25A HAS PWM
selfbuilt and eagletac say the D25A2 is Current Regulated.
eagletac also says the D25A is Current Regulated.

I believe reppans

(the D25A and the D25A2 are the same light, only the switch is different, not the driver circuit)

 

[reppans]

Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

thank you for the excellent photos of the PWM!

we have a difference of interpretation of the word PWM
reppans shows the D25A HAS PWM
selfbuilt and eagletac say the D25A2 is Current Regulated.
eagletac also says the D25A is Current Regulated.

I believe reppans

(the D25A and the D25A2 are the same light, only the switch is different, not the driver circuit)

Thanks but, the D25A2 actually shares the same driver as the D25C (A950RC circuit) - the D25A uses the A400RC circuit. It's not a wide voltage driver... actually it's pretty narrow voltage, lower modes will shift and/or go direct drive.

 

[jon_slider]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

Thanks but, the D25A2 actually shares the same driver as the D25C (A950RC circuit) - the D25A uses the A400RC circuit. It's not a wide voltage driver... actually it's pretty narrow voltage, lower modes will shift and/or go direct drive.

thank you for the education!
so, D25A = per reppans Yes PWM, per Eagletac No PWM:
"A400RC circuitWe use current regulation method to control the amount of current going through the LED for all output levels. "
but, D25C, D25A2 = per reppans No PWM, per Eagletac No PWM
thanks for the circuit difference info

 

[reppans]

Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

but, D25C, D25A2 = per reppans No PWM, per Eagletac No PWM
thanks for the circuit difference info

Not per me.... I don't own a C or A2 - I can only say the A has PWM on certain modes.

As far as truth in advertising, my A's output and runtime specs are very truthful, conservative even, but their "10 year" warranty is quite misleading - it's really only 1 yr due to their "electronics" clause.

 

[jon_slider]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

Not per me.... I don't own a C or A2 - I can only say the A has PWM on certain modes.

correction
D25C, D25A2 = per selfbuilt No PWM, per Eagletac No PWM

 

[lebox97]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

reppans, EagleTac flashlights have a 120 month warranty... no problem.
"We warrant our flashlights to be free from defects in workmanship and materials. We will repair, replace at our option, without charging any product or part which is found to be defective under normal use within 120 months from the date of purchase with the proof of purchase."
http://eagletac.com/html/contact/features/support.html

There has never been any concern from ET or a dealer for handling flashlight warranties within the 120 month window, I am not aware of a single customer who has had problem getting a warranty concern addressed.

you are referring to the second paragraph - which relates to peripheral items - such as cords, chargers, batteries etc ie. "Electronics"
I'll ask ET to make this clearer on the site & Manual.

Cheers

...
but their "10 year" warranty is quite misleading - it's really only 1 yr due to their "electronics" clause.

 

[Lithium466]

Re: Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

Nope. Driver failure are considered "electronics" so 1 year warranty only, though they can be pretty arranging and/or costs for spare parts quite low.

 

[reppans]

Eagletac D25 Clicky Series Round-up Review (D25C, D25A2, D25LC2 - XM-L & XP-G)

There has never been any concern from ET or a dealer for handling flashlight warranties within the 120 month window, I am not aware of a single customer who has had problem getting a warranty concern addressed.

you are referring to the second paragraph - which relates to peripheral items - such as cords, chargers, batteries etc ie. "Electronics"
I'll ask ET to make this clearer on the site & Manual.

Cheers

I have email them about it a while ago - asked if a flashlight driver were to fail, would it fall under 1 yr electronics clause, or the 10 yr "flashlight" warranty. I was told the driver is covered for 1 year (Christina).

That said, due to the "generous" wording of their warranty terms, I'm sure they quite lenient with the repairs.... but they don't have to be.