Sold/Expired TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series

[recDNA]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

I think what recDNA meant is that when the cell drains down to 3V, what will be the output compared to a fully charged cell..

No Tana interpretted me correctly. I was asking about use with primary. Like I have an old 1 amp 219b singled 3-6 volts that works fine with primary at about half the output. It was before lucidrv. Was it Nanj? I don't remember the driver but not the half amp boost driver.

Anyway I know mine works best with li ion so must be linear. I'll stick to rcr123 now that I know. Maybe it should say 3.7-4.2 volts on it instead of 3-6 volts?

 

[Tana]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

Hi, nice post ! I did not read all but do you still make the (bare) modules ?

Interesting question... I still do MAKE bare modules (manual machining) but I was never selling them empty (if that's what you had in mind), only complete SingLED modules...

 

[Tana]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

No Tana interpretted me correctly. I was asking about use with primary. Like I have an old 1 amp 219b singled 3-6 volts that works fine with primary at about half the output. It was before lucidrv. Was it Nanj? I don't remember the driver but not the half amp boost driver.

Anyway I know mine works best with li ion so must be linear. I'll stick to rcr123 now that I know. Maybe it should say 3.7-4.2 volts on it instead of 3-6 volts?

Running these SingLEDs with linear driver with single primary is safe - for both the module and primary cell - the only thing is how it behaves and if you're OK with light output... The thing is - my own simple programmed firmware differs how it handles LVP (low voltage protection) from Dr.Jones's ingenious LuciDrvFT firmware. Mine has simple 2.8V cutout (the LED pulls less and less amperage as the voltage drops so you'll notice you need to swap cell) while LuciDrvFT LVP is constant light output halving every time the cell reaches under 3V (approx) under load.

Thus with LuciDrvFT the primary cell will start ramping down pretty much straight away with primary while modules with my simple (example: Low/High, no memory) will put enough light for EDC even if it's not optimized for primary cell. The thing I'm not sure about is how it behaves and how much output it has when cell is down to say below 50% and 30% - but since you've been using it with primary - it can't be bad, right?

As for voltage, 2.8-6V is correct voltage... I could use 3-6V, that could be even better maybe (but since 2.8V is cut-off, then) but basically - it can run in full regulation with single li-ion (I use AW IMR 16340) or two primaries in series (in E2E)... I know it's being said few times in this thread (but it's a long thread after all)...

 

[recDNA]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

Thanks for the explanation.

 

[bartko09]

The thing about Lucidrv is that u can totally customise the 2 groups with any mode settings you want, that includes memory...
Unlike the Guppydrv, the list of modes are preset & u can only choose from them.

Lucidrv is fantastic. Hands down his best firmware so far. Reminds me that I need to journey over to the other place to put in an order, which I haven't done prior.

Curious if anyone knows what his shipping timeline to the US looks like. [emoji2][emoji41]

 

[bartko09]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

Interesting question... I still do MAKE bare modules (manual machining) but I was never selling them empty (if that's what you had in mind), only complete SingLED modules...

I bet u get that question a lot and if you ever do remember my place in line [emoji23]

 

[MMD]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

I am curious if it would be possible to custom install an optic for a singled. Perhaps using some optical adhesive and any spacer required to get the proper fit. Or perhaps there is not enough room. Any thoughts?

The beam as is is actually quite useful. I just have a liking to the profiles offered by some optics.

Maybe something like this

 

[Tana]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

I am curious if it would be possible to custom install an optic for a singled. Perhaps using some optical adhesive and any spacer required to get the proper fit. Or perhaps there is not enough room. Any thoughts?

The beam as is is actually quite useful. I just have a liking to the profiles offered by some optics.

Maybe something like this

I did had that idea for a while and it could be doable however finding proper size TIR optics is near impossible... I have various TIRs I got for R&D in the past and neither fits properly... I have 20mm with 10mm depth optics from LED Supply and it leaves 2.30mm gap between bezel ring and bezel...

It don't have to be exactly 20mm wide but narrower, 18mm or even 16mm but depth should be between 7-8mm for it to fit inside incan head (depending on how wide is LED opening)... if someone stubles upon something similar, maybe we can manage to fit it inside...

SingLED would have to be slightly different to utilize different focus point so couldn't work with stock head - it would have to be a set with proper size optics...

Here's a incan head with 20mm optics and 2.3mm gap...

 

[MMD]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

Thanks for that info Tana! I see it has some difficulties. I suppose a custom bezel ring may work with a modified singled. Not quite plug and play though.

The singled has quite a useful beam as it is so all though an optic would be great, no big deal.

Perhaps I will just need to dive into a TripLED

 

[Tana]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

Thanks for that info Tana! I see it has some difficulties. I suppose a custom bezel ring may work with a modified singled. Not quite plug and play though.

The singled has quite a useful beam as it is so all though an optic would be great, no big deal.

Perhaps I will just need to dive into a TripLED

:thumbsup:

 

[Mikeg23]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

You list the xpl warm as a multi mode can it be done as a single mode?

Where can I find beamshots?

What is the user interface on the multi mode?

Thank You!

 

[Tana]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

You list the xpl warm as a multi mode can it be done as a single mode?

Yes

Where can I find beamshots?

Post #2, this same thread...

What is the user interface on the multi mode?

Tana3 firmware has all these groups pre-programmed and it's easy to swap between them - enter menu with 8 rapid taps then tap that number of the group... so same firmware has single mode only option as well... it's an $8 upgrade to base price...

Thank You!

Tana3 firmware mode groups...

 

[SpyderHS08]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

Are you able to keep a mode saved? Or do you have to tap 8 times to enter menu and then another 3 etc to get to a low or fire fly mode every time you turn the light on?

sorry if my question is silly, it's just the 'NO MEMORY' next to some modes that has me confused. Or do these operate similar to HDS where once you've chosen your settings from the menu this is how the light operates until reset or changed?

thanks!!

 

[Tana]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

Are you able to keep a mode saved? Or do you have to tap 8 times to enter menu and then another 3 etc to get to a low or fire fly mode every time you turn the light on?

sorry if my question is silly, it's just the 'NO MEMORY' next to some modes that has me confused. Or do these operate similar to HDS where once you've chosen your settings from the menu this is how the light operates until reset or changed?

thanks!!

No memory - it always starts from mode1... (default config in Tana3 firmware is Low/High no memory)...

Memory - Starts from last mode you used...

Turn off/on in both memory/no memory to progress to next mode in sequence...

From you PM as well, no idea of AW IMR 16340 vs Xtar 16340 cell, I only use AW for the past 5-6 years...

 

[Mikeg23]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

Post st two just had the 219 I didn't know if there was a thread some where that had some of the others.... No big deal.

on the user interface question I was more curious how you go from mode to mode
I didn't realise they could be programed

so if o get a single mode it's still the same kind of electronics as the multi mode it's not a "simple circuit"

Tana3 firmware mode groups...

 

[Tana]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

Post st two just had the 219 I didn't know if there was a thread some where that had some of the others.... No big deal.

on the user interface question I was more curious how you go from mode to mode
I didn't realise they could be programed

so if o get a single mode it's still the same kind of electronics as the multi mode it's not a "simple circuit"

8 rapid taps to engage prog-menu (which is also cell monitor) then while it's strobing, tap needed number of times to engage that mode group... to engage menu it has to be 8 rapid taps so not easy to engage by mistake...

Once mode group is engaged, then it's regular multimode light - with or without memory... with no memory turn on in mode1... if want mode2, just turn off/on again within 0.75 seconds...

If you want single mode, just make group 14 (14 taps in menu) active and it's single mode (until you want multimode again down the time)...

 

[SpyderHS08]

Which AW 16340 are suggested for these drop ins? The red IMR 550mah or black ICR 750 mah, both show 3.7 volts. What's the difference

 

[Mr.Freeze]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

red is unprotected and provide higher amps. discharge.

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[mk2rocco]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

Mine arrived today and I'm loving it so far! The Tana 3 firmware is perfect, simple and lots of good modes to choose from. Thanks!

 

[SpyderHS08]

Re: TNT SingLED modules for Surefire incan E-series - E1E, E2E, E2D

Me too me too! Lol just got mine today, another pumped customer, Thanks Tana, the old school E1e is loving it's new brains. It took me a few minutes to get the hang of the firmware but I am confident in my mode swapping now, mode number 4 for the win!! All the mode options are great I agree, and once you've got the hang of it it's no trouble to swap around. Also, these drop-ins still have a nice hotspot for as floody as they are, this was a very pleasant suprise.lovecpf :twothumbs: