Rare Malkoff P60 dropin compendium - listing & pics

[RedLED]

Nice thread! Now I have a couple of questions I hope to get an answer on.

1) I have an M61N - 4000 Kelvin. Fantastic light, and CT is right on. I have taken Glamour photos of my wife using that as a key light, and a flash CCT'ed using gel as a fill light or kicker light. Wonderful results.

2) I have an M61NLLLL. Oveready had these so I thought it may be nice to try it, and it is dim compared to our SuperRetin Burners. But, it is a wonderfully handy light around the house, or in the cab of the company grip truck, or in a car, even around the House or studio.

Now, my question is about how many M61N - 4000K Drop in's of this variety were built?

Next question is the same, how many M61NLLLL versions we're produced.

I can't remember if I got the M61N - 4000 from The Man Himself--The Sultan of Simplicity, The Lord of Lumens, The Crown Prince of Color Balance, The Doctor of the Dark Dog Walks, The Pontiff of the 6P....His Magnificence, Mr. Gene Malkoff.

I do remember that the LLLL came from the Imperial Empire of OVEREADY, lead by the invincible Electronic Guru Dursus Caesar Germainicus, EMPEROR. The Oveready empire shall continue to rise in gleaming Cool white beauty and become the crown jewel of the world's gem in the imperial crown of flashlight lumens for the Senate and People of Rome. SPQR

(Sorry Dan, just a joke, my Latin is not good anymore, and I read too much about Ancient Rome and travel to Rome too much).

 

[tolkaze]

#1: MC-E DD
Malkoff MC-E Direct Drive Drop In


There were at least five of these made - the ones that I know of were custom one-offs comissioned by Lampenfisch, bigchelis (qty. 3, one was a 'warm'), and jslappa. From reading about it, it sounds like they were overdriven on an 18650 and suffered from less output than expected. AFAIK these were the last DD dropins ever sold by Gene M.

There is one less in the world. Over a year ago, I bought one of the DD modules from the marketplace (from what I recall, it was a warm MCE-DD) and it arrived with 2 of the four emitter cores blown (like, smokey and brown) output was about 120 lumens and looked pretty bad. Had definately seen far too much current. Contacted Gene, and sent the module back to him, explaining that I bought it off a user on CPF, he sent me a M91W as a replacement.

I was pretty sad about not having the M60W MC-E DD, but was pretty stoked about getting a first run M91W. Even though he specifically said he can't waranty the DD lights, he did me a solid by replacing it.

 

[Toohotruk]

Gene is the man! He never fails to take care of customers. :thumbsup:

 

[Gunnerboy]

My P7 DD, received back in Nov 2008.

 

[Kestrel]

My P7 DD, received back in Nov 2008

Very nice, I always thought that this was one of the nicest configs ever offered by Malkoff, particularly considering the price at the time - Malkoff DD P7's were by far the best bang-for-the-buck at the time. :thumbsup:

There is one less [M60W MC-E DD] in the world. Over a year ago, I bought one of the DD modules from the marketplace (from what I recall, it was a warm MCE-DD) and it arrived with 2 of the four emitter cores blown (like, smokey and brown) output was about 120 lumens and looked pretty bad. Had definately seen far too much current. Contacted Gene, and sent the module back to him, explaining that I bought it off a user on CPF, he sent me a M91W as a replacement. [...]

I'm going to make a wild guess and say that it was considerably more than a year ago?
From September of 2012:

I had an M60W MC-E DD with flood optic, bought it on marketplace but 3 of the emitters were fried when I got it. Super upset, but gene swapped it for an M91W

It is funny how time flies, lol.

 

[Gunnerboy]

Very nice, I always thought that this was one of the nicest configs ever offered by Malkoff, particularly considering the price at the time - Malkoff DD P7's were by far the best bang-for-the-buck at the time. :thumbsup:

Gene tells me that he may have only produced SIX of these!

Bigchelis with four, gsnorm with (at least) one, and my one. I recall those few times I saw them up for sale on the Marketplace, wondering if the seller was one of the initial buyers.

 

[Kestrel]

Almost sure that DHart purchased a new one as well, back in the day.

 

[archimedes]

Re: Whats the rarest malkoff dropin in exsistence?

I think I have one ...

 

[eidolen]

I didn't see mine listed anywhere. I bought 2 used Surefires back in 07 to play with as I wanted to dabble in building drop-ins. A 6P and a G2 Nitrolon.

I never got around to messing with them much as I was busy modding other lights and I ended up gifting 6P to a family member years ago. I broke out the G2 the other day in response to a reddit thread that was talking about plastic lights and realized it had a very old MD in it. I couldn't find the original receipt or correspondence to verify what it was, so a member there prompted me to contact Gene. This was his response.

Wow, that is and old one. One of the first ones I ever built. Likely assembled at the dining room table. You are correct. It is an XR-E 7050 Cool White at 1000 ma. 180 lumens. I have no idea of the exact bin.
Thanks, Gene

Here are some pics of it.

I actually find it to be much closer to neutral white than cool comparing it to any other light I have from that time. Fenix P2D/P3D, Novatac 120P.

 

[etc]

Roger that - I just rec'd my second 'first-run' 5000K M31W from CPF/MP as well. :wave: Perfect tint.

I have owned a number of Malkoffs over the years, but this is the first one I have purchased a duplicate of for my own use.
If something ever happend to my first one, I didn't know how I would replace it - these almost never come up for sale.



Yup, etc had that module custom-built for him, AFAIK there were only one of these made.

He wanted something that could run from both 2x18650 as well as 4xCR123 (for backup) in the Leef host, for maximum M60 runtimes.

Unfortunately it fried when he inserted his 18650's backward; thinking of this I've wondered which Malkoffs have reverse-polarity protection and which might not? I personally don't want to find out the hard way, that's for sure.

(Edit: my guess is the non-standard driver in this custom high-voltage Malkoff may not have had the safeguards of the standard Malkoff drivers maybe ... :shrug

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Nice M60WLL, Zot. Those are pretty unusual since I believe they were never a cataloged item?
I think that they were built 'on-demand' when ordered so there are relatively few of them out there.

yeah, I was going to mention the 12v M60 module but you beat me to it. The only one in existence, too.

 

[archimedes]

Re: Rare Malkoff P60 dropin compendium - listing & pics

yeah, I was going to mention the 12v M60 module but you beat me to it. The only one in existence, too.

I have a (non-standard voltage) Malkoff dropin labeled " M60 5-12v "

 

[greatscoot]

Re: Rare Malkoff P60 dropin compendium - listing & pics

I've had this one for a while, but can't remember who I acquired it from. The tint is spectacular.

 

[thermal guy]

Re: Rare Malkoff P60 dropin compendium - listing & pics

I really like my M60F. I think I'll have to start looking for a neutral one to try out.Might take awhile seems all that have them don't want to let them go. 😁

 

[thermal guy]

Re: Rare Malkoff P60 dropin compendium - listing & pics

I see Malkoff made a few different M60F and M60LF. Different optics. How in the world do you know what's what? Any way to tell?

 

[archimedes]

Re: Whats the rarest malkoff dropin in exsistence?

I think most of the "F" (flood) dropins were using 20-degree optics ...

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?348262-Malkoff-M60-M30-Optics

 

[thermal guy]

Re: Whats the rarest malkoff dropin in exsistence?

How about the M60N? Must be pretty rare I can't find a thing about it😞

 

[archimedes]

Re: Whats the rarest malkoff dropin in exsistence?

How about the M60N? Must be pretty rare I can't find a thing about it😞

Photo ?

 

[Kestrel]

Re: Whats the rarest malkoff dropin in exsistence?

I'm guessing that was an Oveready re-release in 4000K ?

If I'm not wrong, it would have been a relatively modern (i.e. at the very very end of the M60's) limited production item.

 

[slumber]

Re: Whats the rarest malkoff dropin in exsistence?

I'm guessing that was an Oveready re-release in 4000K ?

If I'm not wrong, it would have been a relatively modern (i.e. at the very very end of the M60's) limited production item.

Yep. I think the original stock was like 50-70 drop ins. If I remember correctly, when those sold, Elzetta required a minimum order of like 1000 units on the next batch, which never happened.

 

[thermal guy]

Re: Whats the rarest malkoff dropin in exsistence?

So there's were only 50-70 M60N made?