The Official Zebralight Thread .

[markr6]

Got the H600Fc last night. Warmer than I prefer but that CRI totally makes up for it!!!

Now the new (to me) headband SUCKS BIG!! Hard crunchy elastic just feels cheap and less maneuverable. It's also VERY hard to adjust because the one side you use to grab and pull is now static...fixed to the plastic D-ring. So you have to reach UNDER the band to pull the loose end...and a bunch of hair with it. Just horrible!

The top band is now permanently attached too! I never use it anyway, but it was nice to have the option to remove/reattach it.

I ordered a separate headband from ZL hoping it's the old version, since I can't imagine they sell may of those and hopefully have old stock. Worth a $7 gamble I guess.

 

[Christoph]

I just got a H600c MK IV and the top head strap is not permanently attached each band can be taken off the band is a stiffer one than came on my other head lamps though I have no idea if it is better or worse yet. I adjust it before I put it on my head so no issues with it grabbing my hair .
Chris

 

[markr6]

I just got a H600c MK IV and the top head strap is not permanently attached each band can be taken off the band is a stiffer one than came on my other head lamps though I have no idea if it is better or worse yet. I adjust it before I put it on my head so no issues with it grabbing my hair .
Chris

Mine was attached permanently, unlike the old one with a slot in the rubber that you could undo. Regarding the adjustment I'm just used to tightening/loosening it often depending on if I'm wearing a hat in the winter. I supposed I could get used to it.

 

[chillinn]

Chillinn, I'm not quite sure why this has gotten your panties all up in a wad. How the points of this discussion that are concerning to us ZL fans are sooooo outlandish. You took every observation I/we laid out and discredited each one quite childishly & deceitfully. If you don't want to participate in a "discussion" then I don't care one little bit. If you want to turn a discussion into an argument like a little child, then again, I don't care. You have turned this thread into a WASTE OF TIME FOR EVERYONE. If I were a mod, I'd peal you back a bit. It's guys like you that ruin good places like CPF.

You are making it personal, and you are projecting. I am not in the slightest bit disturbed by this, nor have I claimed anything other than that the "evidence," if it can be called that, does not in the least bit support the conclusion that Zebralight is going out of business. Maybe they are going out of business, but the offered evidence does not support that conclusion, nor any conclusion. That ZL closed one address (maybe they moved or downsized), and told someone they would not replace some model (maybe they meant only that particular model), and starting 2021 will only sell to US customers (maybe their international sales are so low, it isn't worth pursuing), in and of themselves, simply quite says nothing at all. I once worked at a small firm that had many clients, but one major client. The revenue from that one major client was larger than all the rest put together. The business failed because we were spending equal amounts of time on all the clients, rather than all the time on the one major client. That could easily be the reason ZL has decided to only sell to US customers, because the revenue from US sales may and probably does exceed all international sales combined, and it simplifies things and makes it less expensive to simplify.


Chances are good that you're going to interpret every bit of evidence as confirmation of your beliefs. I'm only trying to persuade you that the evidence doesn't really mean much if anything important whatsoever. It really doesn't bother me at all that some have minds that are completely illogical and/or irrational and tend to leap to unsupported conclusions. Some get an idea in their head, and there is just no dislodging it. Rumors and fretting serve no valid purpose and at the same time can be damaging. What is elementary here is we simply do not know, and there is no valid, incontrovertible reason to remotely entertain such a fantasy. Whereof one does not know, thereof one can not speak.

 

[markr6]

If history tells us anything about Zebralight, we should expect to be surprised at any moment. And never really know what's going on. I hope they keep on going, even if there aren't huge changes to the product lineup.

 

[MB320]

On the topic of 'discontinued key models' - I'm struggling to see it? The SC600 HI emitter isn't available anymore so their hand was forced with that. So the only other is the SC5 series which is unfortunate but not a huge departure I would say.

I'm hopeful for their future even though I would be affected with the new US only shipping.

 

[Outdoorsman5]

You are making it personal, and you are projecting. I am not in the slightest bit disturbed by this, nor have I claimed anything other than that the "evidence," if it can be called that, does not in the least bit support the conclusion that Zebralight is going out of business. Maybe they are going out of business, but the offered evidence does not support that conclusion, nor any conclusion. That ZL closed one address (maybe they moved or downsized), and told someone they would not replace some model (maybe they meant only that particular model), and starting 2021 will only sell to US customers (maybe their international sales are so low, it isn't worth pursuing), in and of themselves, simply quite says nothing at all. I once worked at a small firm that had many clients, but one major client. The revenue from that one major client was larger than all the rest put together. The business failed because we were spending equal amounts of time on all the clients, rather than all the time on the one major client. That could easily be the reason ZL has decided to only sell to US customers, because the revenue from US sales may and probably does exceed all international sales combined, and it simplifies things and makes it less expensive to simplify.


Chances are good that you're going to interpret every bit of evidence as confirmation of your beliefs. I'm only trying to persuade you that the evidence doesn't really mean much if anything important whatsoever. It really doesn't bother me at all that some have minds that are completely illogical and/or irrational and tend to leap to unsupported conclusions. Some get an idea in their head, and there is just no dislodging it. Rumors and fretting serve no valid purpose and at the same time can be damaging. What is elementary here is we simply do not know, and there is no valid, incontrovertible reason to remotely entertain such a fantasy. Whereof one does not know, thereof one can not speak.

All any of us around here want to do is discuss the things that interests us. I (and I believe we all) would like to have the freedom to speak openly without some condescending know-it-all arriving on the scene to correct our every word with their vast so-called knowledge. The fact is, some alarming things have taken place with ZL, and that naturally makes us fans concerned. You were clearly offended that I/we were concerned by the closure of the Texas plant (and yes, it was a manufacturing plant as described to me 8ish years ago by James Walker who was the marketing director) and by the changes on their website to sell to US market only, etc., and you saw fit to put us all in our place. You also sucked the fun out of the discussion. You will be blind to this, but you have been deceitful and self-righteous in everything you posted above. My interest in continuing this with you has dropped to exactly 0.

 

[AstroTurf]

Got the H600Fc last night. Warmer than I prefer but that CRI totally makes up for it!!!

Now the new (to me) headband SUCKS BIG!! Hard crunchy elastic just feels cheap and less maneuverable. It's also VERY hard to adjust because the one side you use to grab and pull is now static...fixed to the plastic D-ring. So you have to reach UNDER the band to pull the loose end...and a bunch of hair with it. Just horrible!

The top band is now permanently attached too! I never use it anyway, but it was nice to have the option to remove/reattach it.

I ordered a separate headband from ZL hoping it's the old version, since I can't imagine they sell may of those and hopefully have old stock. Worth a $7 gamble I guess.

I just use the back strap on a baseball cap. Works Great!!!

 

[AstroTurf]

On the topic of 'discontinued key models' - I'm struggling to see it? The SC600 HI emitter isn't available anymore so their hand was forced with that. So the only other is the SC5 series which is unfortunate but not a huge departure I would say.

I'm hopeful for their future even though I would be affected with the new US only shipping.

Don't discount the SC64 HI, which is still available on their website, It's pretty good too!!!

 

[MB320]

Don't discount the SC64 HI, which is still available on their website, It's pretty good too!!!

Oh totally! That's sort of my point. There's noise being made about key models being discontinued, but they haven't been. Not without good reason at least.

 

[WalkIntoTheLight]

Mine was attached permanently, unlike the old one with a slot in the rubber that you could undo. Regarding the adjustment I'm just used to tightening/loosening it often depending on if I'm wearing a hat in the winter. I supposed I could get used to it.

I bought a couple of headbands when I bought my H600Fc IV (I like the GITD option). To be honest, I haven't even opened any other than the one that came with the light, but I like it. The only problem I find is that it does tend to loosen over time. The straps are too slippery for a good grip on the buckle. But other than that, it's comfortable, doesn't move around, and holds the light in place really well. If they would make the straps a bit more grippy, it would be perfect.

I have headbands on other lights that really suck in comparison. Way too flimsy, or really difficult to fit my fat skull.

On the subject of zebralight closing, I guess we'll just have to wait a few months and see. The only thing that really concerns me is the reduction of sales to US only. That can't be a good sign, no matter how you spin it. I suppose it's possible they signed some kind of exclusive dealer licensing arrangement that handles all international sales. But, since they've been selling international just fine up to now, I don't understand why they would do that.

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

Don't discount the SC64 HI, which is still available on their website, It's pretty good too!!!

Honestly my favorite ZL. And I have had a ton of em.

 

[chillinn]

All any of us around here want to do is discuss the things that interests us. I (and I believe we all) would like to have the freedom to speak openly without some condescending know-it-all arriving on the scene to correct our every word with their vast so-called knowledge. The fact is, some alarming things have taken place with ZL, and that naturally makes us fans concerned. You were clearly offended that I/we were concerned by the closure of the Texas plant (and yes, it was a manufacturing plant as described to me 8ish years ago by James Walker who was the marketing director) and by the changes on their website to sell to US market only, etc., and you saw fit to put us all in our place. You also sucked the fun out of the discussion. You will be blind to this, but you have been deceitful and self-righteous in everything you posted above. My interest in continuing this with you has dropped to exactly 0.

I think I should know when I am offended or not, and I am just not that delicate. So you speak for everybody here, even me. And only YOU are allowed to say what you want, but any rational dissent is not tolerated?!? Sounds familiar. Really great board you run here, Outdoorsman5. Keep up the good work, we're all counting on you.

 

[WalkIntoTheLight]

Honestly my favorite ZL. And I have had a ton of em.

Yeah, the SC64w HI is a really sweet EDC. I used to EDC their AA lights, but once I got the SC64w HI that's the only one I'd consider now. Not much bigger than their AA lights, and packs so much more punch with far nicer tint. I'd like to get the LE version, but, well, I guess that's not happening.

I still prefer the larger SC600 lights if I'm going for a walk, though. A bit easier to carry, and since I'm using them all the time, I don't have to worry about the extra size in my pocket. The split ring on the SC600's is great for a lanyard, so I don't drop it. That's not as easy with the SC64.

 

[WalkIntoTheLight]

BTW, I just went to nkon, to check out what Zebralights they have, and they're out of stock of almost every model too! Even worse than zebralight.com. It sure seems like production stopped sometime in the past month or two.

 

[Greta]

chillinn.... Time to take some more time off. Not even going to give a warning this time. You already know. See you after Christmas. :wave::santa:

 

[this_is_nascar]

Damnit.... I couldn't control myself, again, and just ordered a "SC600w Mk IV Plus 18650 XHP50.2 Neutral White Flashlight", that I probably really don't need.


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[WalkIntoTheLight]

Damnit.... I couldn't control myself, again, and just ordered a "SC600w Mk IV Plus 18650 XHP50.2 Neutral White Flashlight", that I probably really don't need.

Depends. It makes a fantastic bike light. But, not so great for a general-purpose light. Too much flood to see very far with it, so it's limited to moderate distances outdoors. And, it's a bit big for comfortable EDC. Good for around the house, though.

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

I was researching that model, seems like a lot of complaints about green tint.

 

[WalkIntoTheLight]

I was researching that model, seems like a lot of complaints about green tint.

It's not that bad. But, there's definitely some green in the corona. Not noticeable in normal use, though. The tint is definitely better than Zebralights from 5 years ago. But, it's not nearly as good as the lights using the XHP35 HI emitter.