Actual Lumen Readings in 10.5in Sphere.

[kramer5150]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

It should be noted that the module used in this 3AA javelin host setup....


Javelin w/ DX MC-E drop-in______ P60 DX MC-E 3 mode #2________ 3 NiMH Tenergy AA cells _____________ 443.1____________1 sec
Javelin w/ DX MC-E drop-in________ P60 DX MC-E 3 mode #2_________ 3 NiMH Tenergy AA cells ______________ 403.8____________30 sec
Javelin w/ DX MC-E drop-in________ P60 DX MC-E 3 mode #2_________ 3 NiMH Tenergy AA cells ______________ 371.5____________1 min
Javelin w/ DX MC-E drop-in________ P60 DX MC-E 3 mode #2_________ 3 NiMH Tenergy AA cells ______________ 357.7____________2 min
Javelin w/ DX MC-E drop-in________ P60 DX MC-E 3 mode #2_________ 3 NiMH Tenergy AA cells ______________ 344.6____________3 min

Came from a DX SKU:18857, which specs a M-WC BIN. This SKU # uses a different BIN than the bare MCE module by itself.

Thanks BC for the clarification.

 

[csshih]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

I don't have the Quarks anymore and I think Craig might have sent them back already too.

no.. not yet :naughty:

up for some testing of some xp-g eagletacs? (still waiting for them to arrive)

WOW! that's allot added to the thread since I last looked. :thumbsup:

 

[kramer5150]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Hey BC....
What did we measure OTF for the ITP-A3-EOS / Duraloop AAA?

I thought it was ~80 Lumens.

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

I forgot to post that one...


ITP A3 EOS_____________________XP-E_________________________ 1 AAA Duraloop NiMH_____________________ 80.0____________1 sec
ITP A3 EOS_____________________XP-E_________________________ 1 AAA Duraloop NiMH_______________________75.4____________30 sec
ITP A3 EOS_____________________XP-E_________________________ 1 AAA Duraloop NiMH_______________________73.1____________1 min
ITP A3 EOS_____________________XP-E_________________________ 1 AAA Duraloop NiMH_______________________70.8____________2 min
ITP A3 EOS_____________________XP-E_________________________ 1 AAA Duraloop NiMH_______________________70.0____________3 min
ITP A3 EOS_____________________XP-E________Med Mode_______ 1 AAA Duraloop NiMH_______________________19.2____________1 sec
ITP A3 EOS_____________________XP-E________Low Mode_______ 1 AAA Duraloop NiMH_______________________1.5_____________1 sec

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Hi all,


I just got on loan from Craig the Xtar TZ-50. It is a fully regulated SST-50 with a 2.5A driver. It doesn't have a UCL lens and if you have one of these expect at least 20 more OTF if you add one.

Here is the original thread on this light in the market place:
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=211427


Here are my results for that one:
Name of light__________________LED Type ________________Batteries ________________Lumens __________ Time
Xstar TZ-50_________________________SST-50 w/2.5A driver____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650 w/1.31A____________ 463.8_________________1 sec
Xstar TZ-50_________________________SST-50 w/2.5A driver____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650 w/1.31A____________ 384.6_________________30 sec
Xstar TZ-50_________________________SST-50 w/2.5A driver____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650 w/1.31A____________ 378.5_________________1 min
Xstar TZ-50_________________________SST-50 w/2.5A driver____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650 w/1.31A____________ 370.8_________________2 min
Xstar TZ-50_________________________SST-50 w/2.5A driver____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650 w/1.31A____________ 363.1_________________3 min
Xstar TZ-50_________________________SST-50 w/2.5A driver____________2 AW 2600mAh 18650 w/1.31A____________ 363.1_________________4 min

 

[sfca]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

up for some testing of some xp-g eagletacs? (still waiting for them to arrive)

+1 on that!
And one of Anto's R5 drop-ins.

With this SST-50 w/ 2.8A driver in DBS bezel, turn-on lumens will be the same as a P60 correct?

I'm sure lumens will not change but lux will. And the greater heatsinking means less loss of output.

 

[was.lost.but.now.found]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Looking forward to the TK40 results. Is it still coming soon (with 8aa, not 6aa, right?)?

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Looking forward to the TK40 results. Is it still coming soon (with 8aa, not 6aa, right?)?

I think it uses 6 AA

 

[was.lost.but.now.found]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

I think it uses 6 AA

Are you thinking of the ITP A6 Polestar? The TK40 most definitely uses 8aa, with an option for only 4.

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Update.


I just tested the DEFT FTP. My IS Sphere couldn't fit the bezel with the aspheric lens, so I took the readings without it. This new model was designed to be used that way so its okay.

Here are the numbers:
DEFT FTP___________________________R2 w/ No Aspheric_____________ 4 Eneloop Pack______________________ 259.2________________ 1 sec
DEFT FTP___________________________R2 w/ No Aspheric______________ 4 Eneloop Pack_______________________ 240.0________________ 30 sec
DEFT FTP___________________________R2 w/ No Aspheric______________ 4 Eneloop Pack_______________________ 235.4________________ 1 min
DEFT FTP___________________________R2 w/ No Aspheric______________ 4 Eneloop Pack_______________________ 224.6________________ 2 min
DEFT FTP___________________________R2 w/ No Aspheric______________ 4 Eneloop Pack_______________________ 223.1________________ 3 min

 

[rookiedaddy]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

EagleTac T20C2________________________XP-G R5___________________1 AW 2600mAh 18650__________________ 318.5________________ 1 sec
EagleTac T20C2_________________________XP-G R5___________________1 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________287.7________________ 30 sec
EagleTac T20C2_________________________XP-G R5___________________1 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________283.8________________ 1 min
EagleTac T20C2_________________________XP-G R5___________________1 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________280.0________________ 2 min
EagleTac P20C2________________________XP-G R5_____________________2 IMR 16340 ________________________330.0________________ 1 sec
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5_____________________2 IMR 16340 ________________________ 310.8________________ 30 sec
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5_____________________2 IMR 16340 ________________________ 307.7________________ 1 min
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5_____________________2 IMR 16340 ________________________ 303.1________________ 2 min
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5_____________________2 IMR 16340 ________________________ 299.2________________ 3 min

bigchelis, if you run T20C2 MKII on 2 IMR 16340, will the output be same with P20C2 MKII?

 

[recDNA]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

If you have the batteries I'd love to see both Eagletacs with IMR 18650 and 2 x IMR 16340 and 2 x Rcr 123

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

The EagleTac P20C2, which I tested with 2 IMR 16340 cells will not fit the 18650 cells at all. It does fit AW 17670 cells, so I will do a runtime with that one.

The EagleTac T20C2 I tested with a single 18650 I can re-test with 2 CR123 IMR 16340's.

The great news is I can confirm that all the EagleTacs have some type of UCL lens included. Maybe thats why the lumens are soo great.

 

[csshih]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

nice! make sure to mark the eagletacs as the MK II models

.. hmm, try the T20C2 with 123s, also?

 

[recDNA]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

The EagleTac P20C2, which I tested with 2 IMR 16340 cells will not fit the 18650 cells at all. It does fit AW 17670 cells, so I will do a runtime with that one.

The EagleTac T20C2 I tested with a single 18650 I can re-test with 2 CR123 IMR 16340's.

The great news is I can confirm that all the EagleTacs have some type of UCL lens included. Maybe thats why the lumens are soo great.

I also wondered if there is any output difference between AW 18650 2600 (which you tested in the T20C2) vs AW IMR 18650. I thought the IMR might provide higher output but obviously far less runtime. I'm even curious how it runs on 2 ordinary CR123a primaries. I know it's a lot to ask but if you have the time the results may be illuminating.

 

[bigchelis]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

I took readings on the EagleTac XP-G models with the AW 17670 on the P20C2 and 2 IMR 16340 cells for the T20C2. Not much change at all and the lumens stay about the same.

Name of light__________________LED Type ________________Batteries ________________Lumens __________ Time
EagleTac T20C2_________MKII___________XP-G R5___________________1 AW 2600mAh 18650__________________ 318.5________________ 1 sec
EagleTac T20C2_________________________XP-G R5___________________1 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________287.7________________ 30 sec
EagleTac T20C2_________________________XP-G R5___________________1 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________283.8________________ 1 min
EagleTac T20C2_________________________XP-G R5___________________1 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________280.0________________ 2 min
EagleTac T20C2_________________________XP-G R5___________________1 AW 2600mAh 18650___________________277.7________________ 3 min
EagleTac T20C2_________MKII___________XP-G R5___________________2 IMR 16340 __________________________ 316.2________________ 1 sec
EagleTac T20C2_________________________XP-G R5___________________2 IMR 16340___________________________ 286.9________________ 30 sec
EagleTac T20C2_________________________XP-G R5___________________2 IMR 16340___________________________ 282.3________________ 1 min
EagleTac T20C2_________________________XP-G R5___________________2 IMR 16340___________________________ 281.5________________ 2 min
EagleTac T20C2_________________________XP-G R5___________________2 IMR 16340___________________________ 276.2________________ 3 min

EagleTac P20C2_________MKII___________XP-G R5_____________________2 IMR 16340 ________________________330.0________________ 1 sec
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5_____________________2 IMR 16340 ________________________ 310.8________________ 30 sec
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5_____________________2 IMR 16340 ________________________ 307.7________________ 1 min
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5_____________________2 IMR 16340 ________________________ 303.1________________ 2 min
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5_____________________2 IMR 16340 ________________________ 299.2________________ 3 min
EagleTac P20C2_________MKII___________XP-G R5________________1 AW 1600mAh 17670 ____________________330.0________________ 1 sec
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5________________ 1 AW 1600mAh 17670 ____________________ 311.5________________ 30 sec
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5________________ 1 AW 1600mAh 17670_____________________ 306.9________________ 1 min
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5________________ 1 AW 1600mAh 17670 ____________________ 302.3________________ 2 min
EagleTac P20C2________________________ XP-G R5________________ 1 AW 1600mAh 17670 ____________________ 300.0________________ 3 min

 

[rookiedaddy]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

wow... thanks bigchelis. looks like this P20C2 is being driven harder than the T20C2. Wonder if EagleTac will chime-in on what's going on here since both is advertised to use the same C1200 III driver.

 

[Mike@PTS]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

wow... thanks bigchelis. looks like this P20C2 is being driven harder than the T20C2. Wonder if EagleTac will chime-in on what's going on here since both is advertised to use the same C1200 III driver.

Both models should be the same. I'm just guessing - but it might be a variance in quality from Cree.

 

[MrGman]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Yeah, this is a less than 5% variance on a sample base comparison of one model each. I tested two Thrunite drop in modules and one was over 300 and the other around 220 lumens, course the one I "bought" was the lower output one. :mecry:. So I wouldn't get to excited about this. Test 10 samples of each and then see how the fall out goes for more of a reality check.

 

[recDNA]

Re: Actual Lumen Readings by bigchelis in 10.5in Sphere.

Thanks! I appreciate the extra effort. Very surprising info. You may want to edit your P20 data. You posted P20C2 with 18650 but I think you meant 17670 right?