Is this battery rechargeable? PICS ADDED.

mickeyfinn

Newly Enlightened
Joined
Jul 30, 2017
Messages
102
Re: Is this battery rechargeable?

Not at all. Don't take it personal.
I was trying to help by logic.
If you don't like it, I can delete my post.

No need to remove the post. Others may learn from it too.

It just felt as if you were saying, "EVERYONE knows this."

And for what it's worth, I would wager plenty of folks who live in New York City and have used trains and buses to get around for their entire lives, are unaware all automobile batteries are rechargeable.:)

Anyway, thanks for the lesson. :thumbsup:
 

terjee

Enlightened
Joined
Jul 24, 2016
Messages
730
Location
Bergen, Norway
Re: Is this battery rechargeable?

I'll second most things written in this thread. :p

Also, about asking about batteries... every single forum I'm in that has batteries as on-topic, love questions about them, especially regarding safety. I've always had (and still have) the impression that's the case here on CPF as well, so please do ask if there ever is anything.

Other than that, I'm mostly stopping by this thread to stress the issue that LiIons are consumable items. If the question is "I have this 10 year old 18650 LiIon battery, and I'm wondering if it's rechargeable?", then the answer is "it was". ;-)

If you'll forgive the humorous phrasing, the point is real. Even a good LiIon battery that's been left to fend for itself can grow dangerous, and it's non-trivial to investigate for internal damage. It could short out internally during charging, or during use afterwards. If it goes rapid exothermic on you after charging, it'll do so with more eagerness and persistence than it would if you hadn't charged it.

If you're interested in the why and how, LiIon batteries that spend time at too low a voltage, can grow dendrites that can short them out internally. This is an even bigger problem when you bring self discharge into the picture, and 10 years (as in my example) is a lot of time for self discharge. Now, to make things even funnier, if you simply measure batteries with a multimeter, you can have an artificially high reading, making it hard to do even basic checks before charging. Dendrites aside, components can also degrade over time. Gaskets can fail or grow brittle (vulnerable to mechanical impact), and so on.

There are things you can do to check things out a bit more, but for most people it's just not worth it. Better to just get a high quality cell from a reputable dealer. Even if you went through all the hoops for doing a health check on it, bought the equipment, read up, did the work and so on, at the end of the day, at best you have an old battery with reduced capacity and reduced safety.
 
Last edited:

nbp

Flashaholic
Joined
Dec 16, 2007
Messages
10,976
Location
Wisconsin
4/3AF is similar size of 18650, in form of primary Zink, rechargeable NiCad and rechargeable NiMH
They don't use them anymore.

Ahh, fair enough, I wasn't aware of that. Sounds like an unusual cell. At any rate, loose 18650s are what they are: rechargeable li-ion cells. And you are correct, not every label spells it out - AW red label IMRs don't say rechargeable on them like the black label protected cells do, but they are rechargeable. But the voltage range and nomenclature indicates they are not primaries. At least the OP got what he needed to know. But yeah, old Trustfires... may as well just replace them. Good cells aren't very expensive anymore.
 

StorminMatt

Flashlight Enthusiast
Joined
Oct 30, 2012
Messages
2,263
Location
Norcal
I have a number of different 18650s laying around that I use. These include:

Sanyo NCR18650GA
Panasonic NCR18650BD
Panasonic NCR18650B
Samsung 35E
LG HG2
LG D1
Sony VTC6

NONE of them say 'rechargeable' on the cell.
 
Top