I need it pack sized. Mainly getting it for nightime Canyon Scrambling @ Zion, and also as a solid BOB light. I started @ Cuda, but the size and weight would be overkill in this application. You also have the StreamLight Polytac HP coming in at near 300 meters @ just 4.4 OZ, thats no slouch for $50 and a lifetime warranty. That said, I do realize the Armytek is in a different league so don't jump my bones, it sounds like a fantastic light. What does the weight come in @ for the Viking? Im just not interested in that predator bezel, total deal breaker for me.