Surefire’s 2010 New Lights Discussion
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Bucky
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Thank you, kindly
.I can't really tell what the main differences are between the Pen II, III, and IV. They seem pretty similar. It appears maybe the III is HA and the IV is not.
Illumination
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So does the UB3T Invictus replace the old UB3 or are there now two UB3 models? I was really looking forward to this beauty:
Agreed, that UB3T tooks silly and unmanageable. The UA2 and UB2 looked awesome, the UB3 great also, the UB3T not so. Doesn't SF do customer research or panels? Who would have voted for THAT?
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Phredd
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That svcks! I've been waiting for, what, like 2 years for the UA2, then the UB3 -- and now they replace it with this monstrosity?! I guess this could just be another "catalog only release," but I fear THIS will be the one that they will actually release. Ugh!
They just saved me $300.
Phredd
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You might be right that nobody needs 8 levels. The problem is that if you limit it to only 4 levels, NOBODY will agree on what the 4 levels should be.
My scan cut off the edge but this is the Z2 Led and Z2-S Led.
You can barely see the ridges on the front of the Z2-S.
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I can't really tell what the main differences are between the Pen II, III, and IV. They seem pretty similar. It appears maybe the III is HA and the IV is not.
They are all type III. It looks like each has different color options and a little different exterior design. Pen II, III, IV are all click pens. Pen I you twist to operate. Ha! Clickies and Twisties.
The UB3T was very cool from a "features" standpoint. It does look just a little bloated with the selector ring behind the cooling fins. I still liked it though. I think it will still have broad appeal just like the other surefires that have turbo heads. They just won't be as practical or pocketable as the edc type surefires.
I thought the M3TL was awesome. It has a slightly thinner profile without the selector ring, it has the simple, beautiful, classic type III ano and the super simple L1 UI. I loved it. I was in shock when I picked it up.
I must say I was almost giddy when I saw the E2L-AA. I don't particularly want one myself but all I could think about was jaws dropping on CPF when everyone heard about a (non-headlamp) Surefire AA.
I thought the M3TL was awesome. It has a slightly thinner profile without the selector ring, it has the simple, beautiful, classic type III ano and the super simple L1 UI. I loved it. I was in shock when I picked it up.
I must say I was almost giddy when I saw the E2L-AA. I don't particularly want one myself but all I could think about was jaws dropping on CPF when everyone heard about a (non-headlamp) Surefire AA.
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Hmmm, good point. I was poised to pounce on the UB3 if SF offered the non-ghostware version in L/M/H (say, 30/200/400 lumens), but now I'll wait for price and early reviews from CPFers. Meanwhile, the more I use the LX2, the more it seems like pure genius. :thumbsup:
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Me. :shrug: :wave:
DimeRazorback
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I like the Turbo Heads. The extra throw compared to the old smaller head is a positive for me
Really? Can it be finally true? A SureFire E2L that runs on 2 x AA batteries? This is the light campers, hikers, fisherman, hunters, etc. have been waiting for. Now you can power your GPS, two-way radio, headlamp, and various other electronics off the same battery size.THANK YOU SUREFIRE!!
(And that new LX1 is looking pretty sweet, too...)
jp2515
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Came back from the SHOT Show and here are my observations:
-Everyone's favorite light, the UB3 Invictus has been reborn into the UB3T Invictus and sports a head similar to the upcoming M3LT. Everything else about the light such as the ring control, battery indicator and combat grip remains unchanged. And yes there is a big optic inside the head. One word: AWESOME (calm down kids, it will be released sometime this year!).
-M3LT will be released sometime later this year. Pretty much a UB3T with 2 modes: 400 Lumens high and 70 Lumens low. I tell you it was bright in the exhibition hall but on high this light very bright. Also available with a strobe (M3LT-S) with the 3X click activation. Like the UB3T it will be available soon.
-The upcoming AZ2-S LED Combatlight has a new cousin, the Z2-S which is a single mode combatlight but with a STROBE (press tailcap 3X and it will enter strobe mode). This will make you the life of the party (and makes a good light in case things go south LOL)
-Everyone has been clamoring for Surefire to make some sort of AA light and apparently they have been listening. The E2L has gone AA (the CR123 model will still be made). Now the output is sporting 80 Lumens on hight (up from 60) and 3 Lumens on low. Word is that it is using a KX1 head.
-Stratum. Not much to say about this light. Think the modernized version of the 6P, now with 3 MODES! (click on/off to change modes). It will be using a new LED head (possibly a upgraded P60L, not sure) that will produce 150L (high), 50 L (med) and 5 L (low). Look for it soon at a retailer near you. Also has flat sides with a M6 style body.
-On a related note, Surefire is working on a new LED head for the P/G/Z series lights. They are redesigning a new module/head assembly that will be sold together (great for those with G2 and want to upgrade to a LED). Apparently the new LED will be 120 lumens (this blow the current P60L outta the water!). It is still being worked on and I guess they will release it soon as all the P/G/C/Z lights in the new catalog are now sporting 120 Lumens ratings.
-The Mini Scout light. You take the Scoutlight cut it half or mount a E1B on a mount. LOL. There's not much to it, its small, light and puts out a good amount of light. Lots of gun manufacturers had the Mini on their guns (recall seeing one on the Steyr A3)
-M720/M720L/M720V RAID Series Weapoinlight (aka Tactical Illuminators). Looks like a new design weapon light that allows people in the field to change their batteries (hence the bent design) without removing the light from their weapon. Push button momentary switch. Mode selection on the sides. Has places on the back to attach a remote pressure switch or a grip switch. M720 puts out 200 Lumens (looks like a LX2 head), M720L puts out 350 Lumens and the M720V is pretty much a mini Vampire light.
-Everyone's favorite light, the UB3 Invictus has been reborn into the UB3T Invictus and sports a head similar to the upcoming M3LT. Everything else about the light such as the ring control, battery indicator and combat grip remains unchanged. And yes there is a big optic inside the head. One word: AWESOME (calm down kids, it will be released sometime this year!).
-M3LT will be released sometime later this year. Pretty much a UB3T with 2 modes: 400 Lumens high and 70 Lumens low. I tell you it was bright in the exhibition hall but on high this light very bright. Also available with a strobe (M3LT-S) with the 3X click activation. Like the UB3T it will be available soon.
-The upcoming AZ2-S LED Combatlight has a new cousin, the Z2-S which is a single mode combatlight but with a STROBE (press tailcap 3X and it will enter strobe mode). This will make you the life of the party (and makes a good light in case things go south LOL)
-Everyone has been clamoring for Surefire to make some sort of AA light and apparently they have been listening. The E2L has gone AA (the CR123 model will still be made). Now the output is sporting 80 Lumens on hight (up from 60) and 3 Lumens on low. Word is that it is using a KX1 head.
-Stratum. Not much to say about this light. Think the modernized version of the 6P, now with 3 MODES! (click on/off to change modes). It will be using a new LED head (possibly a upgraded P60L, not sure) that will produce 150L (high), 50 L (med) and 5 L (low). Look for it soon at a retailer near you. Also has flat sides with a M6 style body.
-On a related note, Surefire is working on a new LED head for the P/G/Z series lights. They are redesigning a new module/head assembly that will be sold together (great for those with G2 and want to upgrade to a LED). Apparently the new LED will be 120 lumens (this blow the current P60L outta the water!). It is still being worked on and I guess they will release it soon as all the P/G/C/Z lights in the new catalog are now sporting 120 Lumens ratings.
-The Mini Scout light. You take the Scoutlight cut it half or mount a E1B on a mount. LOL. There's not much to it, its small, light and puts out a good amount of light. Lots of gun manufacturers had the Mini on their guns (recall seeing one on the Steyr A3)
-M720/M720L/M720V RAID Series Weapoinlight (aka Tactical Illuminators). Looks like a new design weapon light that allows people in the field to change their batteries (hence the bent design) without removing the light from their weapon. Push button momentary switch. Mode selection on the sides. Has places on the back to attach a remote pressure switch or a grip switch. M720 puts out 200 Lumens (looks like a LX2 head), M720L puts out 350 Lumens and the M720V is pretty much a mini Vampire light.
jp2515
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Surefire did also have a limited edition 30th Anniversary commemorative collectors set. A set was donated to the MattK party and was awarded to Polklifer
DimeRazorback
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Lucky lucky man!
