StarHalo
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He said that having a nearly flat curve is a favorable direction; lifting stay at home orders will not keep that trend.
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He said that having a nearly flat curve is a favorable direction; lifting stay at home orders will not keep that trend.
scout24
Flashaholic
Branching out from CNN, there are 14 states with declining cases, in addition to 20 where cases are "mostly the same"...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html
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bigburly912
Flashlight Enthusiast
You really have to argue with nothing don't you. And yes, I typed that correctly. He said "we are still moving uphill" so we aren't ready to open up yet. The fact it has slowed down with exponentially more tests IS a positive even if we are still seeing cases. Our governor has said the only smart thing since he's been in office and that's we won't open until we have 2 weeks straight of good news.
StarHalo
Flashaholic
The "CNN" chart from Johns Hopkins shows total cases, not total new cases; it's linear vs logarithmic, and will shift with the lifting of stay at home orders.
Well CNN said it so it must be true……
I said less people are getting sick as fast as they were.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases
Just look at all the platues across the planet.
Looking at just case numbers will always point up until the day there are zero new numbers. That will be the edge of graph. If you do that the Spanish flu of 1918 are still rising as morphed versions have popped up every few decades. Last one was 94-96.
Infection rates are what governments like Italy, Spain, America etc are looking at. Just like Dr Fauchi and Byrx said they would be. And in my state infection rates are getting better too.
I said less people are getting sick as fast as they were.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases
Just look at all the platues across the planet.
Looking at just case numbers will always point up until the day there are zero new numbers. That will be the edge of graph. If you do that the Spanish flu of 1918 are still rising as morphed versions have popped up every few decades. Last one was 94-96.
Infection rates are what governments like Italy, Spain, America etc are looking at. Just like Dr Fauchi and Byrx said they would be. And in my state infection rates are getting better too.
StarHalo
Flashaholic
A decrease in the acceleration of deaths that is now clearly temporary is not a favorable direction. As with the last thread, I'm pointing out that there will come a time in the near future when these rosy predictions will look premature, and we would be better served preparing for worse conditions than resting on our laurels.
scout24
Flashaholic
Your post stated "It's not flattening out or headed down in any state"
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scout24
Flashaholic
Please explain how a decrease in acceleration of deaths is not favorable?
Some are scared and waiting on their government to allow them to proceed.
Some are not.
Some just want this thing over.
Some do not.
Some prefer the opposite view point of tradition.
Some prefer tradition.
Some wait around to be told what to do.
Some prefer the opposite.
Some think corona virus is the worst thing to happen to the human race since the ice age.
Others prefer to have a more positive view, while proceeding with caution.
Some prefer to be the Tokyo Rose of CPF.
8/10 split, was an easy spare.
Some are not.
Some just want this thing over.
Some do not.
Some prefer the opposite view point of tradition.
Some prefer tradition.
Some wait around to be told what to do.
Some prefer the opposite.
Some think corona virus is the worst thing to happen to the human race since the ice age.
Others prefer to have a more positive view, while proceeding with caution.
Some prefer to be the Tokyo Rose of CPF.
8/10 split, was an easy spare.
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StarHalo
Flashaholic
It says "not flattened"; a slight curve on a logarithmic scale is a much larger curve on a liner scale. And this chart shows total number of cases, not new cases - the total number of cases will never go down.
Our rate is still accelerating even after we've surpassed other countries, that is not favorable and points to an exceptional problem.
bigburly912
Flashlight Enthusiast
How is that possible with no testing available?
scout24
Flashaholic
You're talking in circles trying to defend what you wrote. Your posts says it's not flattening, not "not flattened. Your post, #152 above, says it's not flattening or headed down in any state. That's not true. Our number of cases is increasing, yes. Please show us how it is accelerating. Those words mean different things.
StarHalo
Flashaholic
You're repeating the same counterpoints because you're not correctly interpreting the graphs. If the number of total cases is increasing, then it's not flattening. If the national new cases is increasing, then it's accelerating, which is especially true if stay at home is lifted. Putting these two data points together means it will not go down, that is not favorable.
scout24
Flashaholic
Incorrect. My car's odometer continues to rack up mileage even if I'm slowing down for an exit off the highway... And if 14 states are saying the rate at which it's adding new cases is slowing down for them, then it is. Distance travelled may be increasing but the rate at which you get there is not. You're trying to extrapolate what lifting restrictions is going to do, to try to prove your point. And I'm debating your words, not the graphs you provided.
StarHalo
Flashaholic
You are free to debate the meaning of "favorable", I don't think that a mere decrease in acceleration when you're about to hit the car in front of you is the goal.
bigburly912
Flashlight Enthusiast
On a happy note I'm down to 255. 30 to go and I'll be where I want to be.
scout24
Flashaholic
I'm not debating the meaning of favorable, I'm quite clear on it's meaning. I asked you to clarify your use of it. I provided you links to a story with charts that contradicted what you said, and you've ignored that. I've asked about your use of " still accelerating" while providing a distinction between accumulating and accelerating. You've not addressed either, while throwing different points into the discussion. Don't misunderstand me, I believe this is deadly serious. I just don't understand your tact of distract/avoid/ "I'm done" when challenged. And a decrease in speed, of any amount, can't hurt.
scout24
Flashaholic
Bigburly- Commendable in any environment, but especially under lockdown! 
StarHalo
Flashaholic
500 kcals under maintenance = 2 lbs per week, you could be there at the start of August.
StarHalo
Flashaholic
Looks like the argument isn't with me, sorry.
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