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Red, Do you know where Chino is located?
Why sure. In the early 1980's, I was an ECCO, FAE, Fire Dispatcher with the California Department of Forestry in Perris, CA. Of course, now they call it that dreaded name: CalFire...

What a great experience it was.


ECCO: Emergency Commad Center Operator

FAE: Fire Apparatus Engineer
 
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Burly,

The pipe stacked in foreground through me..
Calif central valley AGRI is full of same type irrigation pipe..

Or, my phone app photos are tiny, are those lamp poles?

Either way, I now can make out the deer running across field.. it's time for some stronger glasses:green:

Structural steel. I handle material for substation/line job/telecom builds.
 
Who's Greta Thornburg?


Here's my AOC shirt.
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Looks better in a bikini.

BTW, sober since Easter Sunday 26 years ago this year. Don't need no dope, don't want no booze.

Now to tune in the Covid-19 death clock and read alphabet soup news mis-quotes. Woohoo!!
 
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Red- While I appreciate your concern about heavy handed enforcement, I'll play devil's advocate. Our entire system- all of it is based on voluntary compliance. Consequence is a secondary concern for most people as it's a concept that has been so watered down in the last couple generations it's not funny. There aren't enough police, deputies, troopers, etc. to enforce policies related to this situation. This isn't "Please don't speed, please don't shoplift," this is please don't infect yourself or others for God's sake and people Just. Won't. Listen. Until it's somebody they know laying dead or dying, I really don't think they get it. Six damn feet apart. Use courtesy and manners.
 
Courtesy? What's that? Manners? That's for those other people.

At first everybody across the planet were scared. But as time passes and folks don't see people melting just flopping over they become complacent. Then the gubment says "stay home", the same gubment that shut down their livlihood, and now promises to mail out a $1200 stipend (one of these days)……

There is an entire society going back to when Vietnam live was on the 6:30 news each evening that have never faced true adversity. 911 was probably the closest to that and by sundown we all knew our country was not being invaded by those scarey monsters from that country over there. Now this thing we are being told is going to keep us in peril for months……

We are in week, what? 3, 4? since the gubment pulled the plug and folks are looking around going "I don't know anybody sick".……yeah the news boasts the death clock every afternoon. Governors are holding press conferences scolding kids for being kids, but the common person in Idaho, in New Mexico or Arizona have been couped up for weeks now. And unless they are geeking out on numbers, locations, what exactly is this whole covid thing and all that, they are starting to scoff at the notion that it's even going to affect them at all. That's the folks who all self quarentined, social distance or just comply with CDC reccomendations.

Some will never give up their ways. Some don't care about anybody but themselves. Screw covid I want what I want and I want it right now. We see a lot of that in our community that is now about 50/50 masked, unmasked people. I trained a youngster all winter and he went elsewhere. Good guy, means well. But the other day he was tasked to help me and I had to keep reminding him about my 3 foot circle is now 6 feet. Am I scared if gets 3 feet away that covid will get me? No. I'm more scared of some bored, unemployed person with a camera will snap a photo of us 4 feet apart and send it to the 6 o'clock news, then my boss sees it on tv and fires my happy arse.

We have one lady who enters the building each afternoon spraying the air with lavender Lysol. One day my young trainee asked her why she did that. "Because people are stupid, and I have a sick grandma at home" she says. I quipped "nuff said".
 
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I'd make it at minimum 10-12ft safety distance

They have shown by slow motion video a cough or sneeze can project out more than 6 feet closer to 15ft

Agreed show people some respect. That silver haired old gal who enter my space and almost knocked me over.. she continued down the produce isle doing the same to other shoppers

Byk, luv Ol Glory!

Also, congrats on your 26yr sobriety!
Especially during these hectic times. Going off the wagon is made easy courtesy of our gubbeners with all these stinkin "essential" liquor and pot stores remain open for business. Gubment needs those tax $$
 
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KG, with gubner Ralph Nah-Thums crack downs I couldn't get pot if I wanted to. Too many folks with cameras snapping pix of people not social distancing. So unless hand dude my $25 via a shovel, then he hands me my stash back with a shovel……well you get the point.

Speaking of sobriety: The other day in my grocery store there was this loud 82 year old homeless looking guy hollering about not being allowed to buy 6 cases of beer. Eventually he calmed down after being told he could buy 2 cases. The guy looked familiar. It was not until I saw a pickup truck in the parking lot with a locally famous license plate did I realize he was the guy who was once a professional motorcycle racer with enough raw talent to play pro ball in football, baseball or basketball who is what appears now to be a dried up miserable sot who now lives in his daddys basement. It was his dads truck he drove there btw. The guy is MY AGE and makes Keith Richards look young. My (older than I) identical twin looks like my little brother thanks to what I used to do and he did not.
Naw man I never wanna go back that path again.
One of my step sons is in rehab right now fighting addiction to marijuana. He has beat it twice but figured "eh, just this once" with buddies on New Years eve and now fighting it again.

I just watched a newt youtube. The guy has a unique way of putting things in perspective. He was explaining how Italy ended up in the shape it's in covid-19-wise. He compared the population to the US by saying the US has 5.5x the number of people. So I did a what if and divided our cases by 5.5. The results were that we would be neck and neck with the UK and lagging behind Iran in total cases. Our death clock would have us barely above Germany and behind the Netherlands.

He also spoke on how Chinese workers are all over the place in northern Italy as they bought up lots of Italian companies in places with the second oldest population in the world and how they continued near regular life through February.

Now the blame game has lots of ammunician for everybody as the world as a whole dropped the ball. If China for example had reacted with crackdowns after 22 people were sick, yeah perhaps it would have prevented this thread. But their doctors had not figured out what it was at that point and the global economy had already spread it beyond containment by the time anybody knew how easily it spread. It's really nobodys fault. Had it not been a bat in a fish market in China, it may have been a fish in Spain or a cow in Denmark. Wherever it began and whoever it started from is not as important as the lesson the human race should learn from this. But we probably won't.

'87 Jabe? Good for you bro!! I do not know the day for me. I just know on my 40th b-day that year I was not sober but on Easter Sunday I was so I chose that date.

Edit: Correction, I did the math and it's 16 years not 26. I'm 56, not 66. End edit
 
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I lived through CA, Loma Prieta quake. Magnitude was around 7.0 Damage around my area was catastrophic. A friend was near completion building his new home, just waiting on final inspection. The house ripped right off the foundation bolts. Talk about rock 'n roll, that was a scary day!

The worst quake I have felt was a 7.2. We just got back from a week on a cross country train ride visiting family and were looking forward to no more shaking from the train. I went to the bathroom for a number 2. While sitting on the toilet, the earthquake starts. It caught me with my pants down and I couldn't go anywhere. Sitting on that toilet was like riding a mechanical bull for 30 seconds. Scared the sh#t out of me.
 
Welp. A case in our town of around 3500 people has popped up in a low income housing development. It’s a converted hotel so there’s not much “social distancing” to be had. The fire department/rescue squad (they are the same here) responded to a call probably a week ago. Test results just came back and that person was infected. Therefore the fire department/rescue squad potentially infected every person they saw in that weeks time. It’s a mess out there guys. Be safe.
 
The worst quake I have felt was a 7.2. ~snip~ I went to the bathroom for a number 2. While sitting on the toilet, the earthquake starts. It caught me with my pants down and I couldn't go anywhere. Sitting on that toilet was like riding a mechanical bull for 30 seconds. Scared the sh#t out of me.

Sounds like fate had you in the exact right place at the exact right time.
 
The worst quake I have felt was a 7.2. We just got back from a week on a cross country train ride visiting family and were looking forward to no more shaking from the train. I went to the bathroom for a number 2. While sitting on the toilet, the earthquake starts. It caught me with my pants down and I couldn't go anywhere. Sitting on that toilet was like riding a mechanical bull for 30 seconds. Scared the sh#t out of me.

Lol..[emoji43]
 
I just watched a newt youtube. The guy has a unique way of putting things in perspective. He was explaining how Italy ended up in the shape it's in covid-19-wise. He compared the population to the US by saying the US has 5.5x the number of people. So I did a what if and divided our cases by 5.5. The results were that we would be neck and neck with the UK and lagging behind Iran in total cases.

Or you could just look at the numbers, which would tell you that that's not at all the case:
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If things are not bad enough here yesterday having one of our outdoor Cats get sick, and die, last night another one of our outdoor Cats was killed by a coyote.

That's two in one day, less than 24 hours

Swearing removed in favor of family friendliness and respect - Empath
 
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I'm sorry for your losses, Red.

Coyotes are a little spooky. They're (usually) afraid of adult humans but they're always sizing things up as a possible snack.
 
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