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Yes, thank you. My total electric bill for the year 2019 was $310 thanks to solar panels, I think this should be available to everyone..
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Yes, thank you. My total electric bill for the year 2019 was $310 thanks to solar panels, I think this should be available to everyone..
Hooked on Fenix
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New York issued a blanket do not resuscitate order for first responders for people in cardiac arrest without a pulse. The whole state is being triaged. If you have loved ones with a heart condition and live in New York, you're going to have to perform CPR yourself and possibly need an a.e.d.. Paramedics are ordered to just let them die if they don't have a pulse. Hope we don't have many people with heart attacks in New York in the near future. Stay safe out there and watch your diet.
In case you are wondering how to stay safe in this pandemic
https://www.facebook.com/550101874/posts/10156959299121875?d=n&sfns=mo
Some commen sense rules
https://www.facebook.com/550101874/posts/10156959299121875?d=n&sfns=mo
Some commen sense rules
sgt253
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WOW! That order in NY state is seriously attention-getting. Stay safe everyone.
Poppy
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I think that you quoted that wrong.
It was about ten days ago, while the hospital system was fully over burdened, and struggling to increase their capacity, the order was given, if you can't resuscitate in the field, then don't bring them to the hospital.
That is hugely different from what you posted.
Context is a beautiful thing.
It's nice to see New York on the right side of curve.
It's nice to see New York on the right side of curve.
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Poppy
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Yeah, and to take stuff out of context, and then add one's own elaboration, and mislead out of ignorance, or worse yet on purpose, is a terrible thing.
Hooked on Fenix
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New York rescinded the do not resuscitate order today. I found that article about the order earlier today. News and events change quickly. I'm not trying to exaggerate anything. The fact that they had that order to begin with was disturbing enough.
PhotonWrangler
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Interesting. I see an issue with the thermal imaging component though. Using a thermal camera to look for fever without a black body calibration source is going to produce inaccurate readings. The difference between a normal temperature and a fever is only a few degrees, so the thermal imager has to be extremely accurate, and this is only practical when it can see a calibration source of known temperature (black body emitter) within it's field of view at the same time that it's looking at the human. That black body source will draw some significant current so I don't see it as being something that can be carried onboard the drone.
Hooked on Fenix
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Check the article of the order on foxnews.com yourselves. I did not exaggerate. However, apparently, New York city first responders blatantly ignored the order thankfully minimizing the impact. Here's the article: https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york...rdiac-patients-amid-coronavirus-crisis-report
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Funny!
So this (eventually not so) novel coronavirus can't affect animals but it came from animals eating animal droppings that were eaten by human animals, probably.
So this (eventually not so) novel coronavirus can't affect animals but it came from animals eating animal droppings that were eaten by human animals, probably.
Poppy
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Interesting: It was widely reported that they were to not bring the patients to the hospital if they couldn't revive them in the field.
There was no reporting of the DNR directive.
Before the initial order was issued, paramedics were told to try to resuscitate patients found in cardiac arrest for up to 20 minutes, the New York Post reported.
New York City’s Fire Department (FDNY) and first responders never adopted the DNR order and instead adhered to the traditional 20-minute policy.
First responders said they were disturbed by the directive, arguing it went against their mission of saving lives.
"This guidance, proposed by physician leaders of the EMS Regional Medical Control Systems and the State Advisory Council – in accordance with American Heart Association guidance and based on standards recommended by the American College of Emergency Physicians and adopted in multiple other states - was issued April 17, 2020 at the recommendation of the Bureau of Emergency Medical Services, and reflected nationally recognized minimum standards," the state health department's spokeswoman, Jill Montag, said.
"However, they don't reflect New York's standards and for that reason DOH Commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker has ordered them to be rescinded," she continued.
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Just another example of a news agency not telling the full story, and singling out their target.
Why not mention the other states that followed the same directive?
On one hand it makes NY look singularly bad, at least the report included a quote from Zucker.
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Of course at the end of the article there are a bunch of twerp commentators.
There was no reporting of the DNR directive.
Before the initial order was issued, paramedics were told to try to resuscitate patients found in cardiac arrest for up to 20 minutes, the New York Post reported.
New York City’s Fire Department (FDNY) and first responders never adopted the DNR order and instead adhered to the traditional 20-minute policy.
First responders said they were disturbed by the directive, arguing it went against their mission of saving lives.
"This guidance, proposed by physician leaders of the EMS Regional Medical Control Systems and the State Advisory Council – in accordance with American Heart Association guidance and based on standards recommended by the American College of Emergency Physicians and adopted in multiple other states - was issued April 17, 2020 at the recommendation of the Bureau of Emergency Medical Services, and reflected nationally recognized minimum standards," the state health department's spokeswoman, Jill Montag, said.
"However, they don't reflect New York's standards and for that reason DOH Commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker has ordered them to be rescinded," she continued.
____________________________________________________
Just another example of a news agency not telling the full story, and singling out their target.
Why not mention the other states that followed the same directive?
On one hand it makes NY look singularly bad, at least the report included a quote from Zucker.
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Of course at the end of the article there are a bunch of twerp commentators.
bigburly912
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Because it’s Fox News and they are just about as bad as CNN.
I’ve searched far and wide, but can’t get a definitive answer on how a covin-19 surge ends. Apparently, right now my state is a hotspot, how does it suddenly stop surging?
BB, Rupert Murdoch owns Fox what else would you expect!
A friend recently gave me some good advice. Turn off all syndicated news media
What a relief, I'm feeling much better today :knight:
A friend recently gave me some good advice. Turn off all syndicated news media
What a relief, I'm feeling much better today :knight:
Rupert saw "there's money in them there deplorables" and created a news outlet that runs a polar opposite of other tv news.
Back when the Articles of the Constitution were being debated the meetings were held in secret because the press tended to sensationalize things back then too. Freedom of the press was a novel idea back then. The point of that idea was supposed to be a way of keeping the government honest. Well about as honest as government in general is capable of. Entertaining the audience has always sold papers. These days "ad sales".
The press has always sensationalized things. Nothing new here. What is new these days is the ability to find what really happened quicker than 2 shakes of a lambs tail. A story from "the Post" (you decide which one) ran a story saying something like cdc dude says corona worse this fall. It led folks to think you think this is bad, wait 'til fall. But, a 30 second search led to a youtube video of the actual person saying what he said. There is usually truth in the articles, buried in a 34th paragraph on page D47. Who reads that far? Not many.
Me? I don't trust the press anymore than I trust the government. Too many buddy buddy types calling themselves journalist on both sides of the American political spectrum. One side says stuff that tickles my ears I will admit. Yet I proceed with caution about that too before I decide it is truth or not. I trusted my mom. I trusted my dad. Everybody else I do like Ronald Reagan advised. Trust but verify.
This potential scenario scares me way more than Covid-19.
I've had a good life. If it takes me out tomorrow, I just fear for our kids and grandkids.
Back when the Articles of the Constitution were being debated the meetings were held in secret because the press tended to sensationalize things back then too. Freedom of the press was a novel idea back then. The point of that idea was supposed to be a way of keeping the government honest. Well about as honest as government in general is capable of. Entertaining the audience has always sold papers. These days "ad sales".
The press has always sensationalized things. Nothing new here. What is new these days is the ability to find what really happened quicker than 2 shakes of a lambs tail. A story from "the Post" (you decide which one) ran a story saying something like cdc dude says corona worse this fall. It led folks to think you think this is bad, wait 'til fall. But, a 30 second search led to a youtube video of the actual person saying what he said. There is usually truth in the articles, buried in a 34th paragraph on page D47. Who reads that far? Not many.
Me? I don't trust the press anymore than I trust the government. Too many buddy buddy types calling themselves journalist on both sides of the American political spectrum. One side says stuff that tickles my ears I will admit. Yet I proceed with caution about that too before I decide it is truth or not. I trusted my mom. I trusted my dad. Everybody else I do like Ronald Reagan advised. Trust but verify.
This potential scenario scares me way more than Covid-19.
I've had a good life. If it takes me out tomorrow, I just fear for our kids and grandkids.
Kestrel
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OK Byk; if we could perhaps return to today's regular scheduled program, thanks.
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Rupert saw "there's money in them there deplorables" and created a news outlet that runs a polar opposite of other tv news.
Back when the Articles of the Constitution were being debated the meetings were held in secret because the press tended to sensationalize things back then too. Freedom of the press was a novel idea back then. The point of that idea was supposed to be a way of keeping the government honest. Well about as honest as government in general is capable of. Entertaining the audience has always sold papers. These days "ad sales".
The press has always sensationalized things. Nothing new here. What is new these days is the ability to find what really happened quicker than 2 shakes of a lambs tail. A story from "the Post" (you decide which one) ran a story saying something like cdc dude says corona worse this fall. It led folks to think you think this is bad, wait 'til fall. But, a 30 second search led to a youtube video of the actual person saying what he said. There is usually truth in the articles, buried in a 34th paragraph on page D47. Who reads that far? Not many.
Me? I don't trust the press anymore than I trust the government. Too many buddy buddy types calling themselves journalist on both sides of the American political spectrum. One side says stuff that tickles my ears I will admit. Yet I proceed with caution about that too before I decide it is truth or not. I trusted my mom. I trusted my dad. Everybody else I do like Ronald Reagan advised. Trust but verify.
This potential scenario scares me way more than Covid-19.
I've had a good life. If it takes me out tomorrow, I just fear for our kids and grandkids.
This picture is 100% correct. It is worth a re post even though I will get scolded about how slow your mobile device takes to upload these duplicate pictures. Just upgrade your device or clear cache partitions if your device is really that crappy. LOL
Worthy of a bookmark Byk!
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