Malaysian Ghost Plane

[mattheww50]

I believe that governments know the reality, and keep hidden when the information!


in 2014 is not possible, find a plane like that, and I do not think you can turn off all the mechanisms of detection!


the black box, in the event of an accident, should have gps turned on for many hours, and radio communications, for the finding, is not it?

The only way thing the black boxes do is record the data, and when underwater, produce an audio ping. There is no internal GPS or internal radio capability. As I believe I have pointed out previously, I believe the US Government (and probably the Russians) know where the aircraft went down, but just like the NSA secretly collecting phone data and email data, don't want to disclose the capabilities they actually have. The fact that all on board are dead removes any moral imperative (not that Governments are partiuclarily moral) to disclose what they know.

If you want to crash an aircraft have a very low probability of it being found, the South Indian Ocean is probably the location of choice. There is reason it is referred to as the "roaring 40's". The weather conditions would scatter and debris field over a huge area in a matter of hours, and it is tough to spot debris in 5-6 meter (or worse) seas. I used to fly over that area in the late 1970's and early 1990's.
In those days there were 4 flights per week that overflew the area. 2 on Air Mauritius (to and from Australia), and 2 on QANTAS (to and from Harare). I suspect that figure is now up to something closer to 15 a week, but that's still almost no traffic.

At least when AF447 went down, the Sat messages provided location, heading and speed information when things started to go wrong, so the search area was quite small compared to the search area for MH370. There was also considerable information about what had gone wrong. There is essential no information on MH370 in public view at this time.

 

[nbp]

My knowledge of astrophysics is admittedly low but every day that goes by with no new data makes crazy theories like the plane flying into a black hole seem more plausible. :crazy:

 

[Frijid]

I'm still leaning that the media is pushing it to keep our minds off of the whole crimea incident

 

[BenChiew]

Really mysterious. Nobody seemed to know where this plane has gone to.

 

[mcnair55]

I'm still leaning that the media is pushing it to keep our minds off of the whole crimea incident

Not in the UK both stories are getting equal air time.The West should keep there noses out of Russian affairs it has nothing to do with them.

 

[RIX TUX]

Not in the UK both stories are getting equal air time.The West should keep there noses out of Russian affairs it has nothing to do with them.

if another country tried to overtake your country wouldn't you want some help?

 

[Bullzeyebill]

if another country tried to overtake your country wouldn't you want some help?

Lets keep political view points out of this thread.

Bill

 

[nbp]

Thanks Bill.

 

[Chauncey Gardener]

Edited for Nick.

 

[nbp]

Thanks. :)

 

[dc38]

Still sticking with my satellite hijacking conspiracy theory.

 

[nbp]

Am I correct that Chinese satellites have spotted a large piece of debris similar in size and shape to the one the Australians saw about 75 miles from the initial sighting? It's a wonder they can see these things from space but then can't find them from the airplane cruising 100 ft above the water! It would sure help if they could recover this thing and confirm what it is.

 

[StarHalo]

From an Australian news website:

Debris including a wooden pallet has been spotted by one of the aircraft searching for missing flight MH370, Prime Minister Tony Abbott has revealed. Mr Abbott said he was told late last night a civilian aircraft had sighted a number of objects within the search zone. It is the first direct sighting of debris and follows two hits by satellite in the past week. “Yesterday one of our civilian search aircraft got visuals on a number of objects in a fairly small area in the overall Australian search zone,” Mr Abbott said this morning. He said the debris was: “ A number of small objects, fairly close together within the Australian search zone, including a wooden pallet.”

Bearing in mind that large junk that's found floating in the ocean is usually what's fallen off of cargo ships; a wooden pallet sounds like something from a ship, not a plane. The object spotted by the Chinese satellite is said to be ~75 feet in length and somewhat square-shaped, it doesn't really resemble a plane part..

 

[BenChiew]

I suspect the images are far clearer than what they reveal. Surely they don't want the world to know their defense capabilities.

 

[StarHalo]

Update: "Aviation experts told the ABC that Malaysian Airlines flight 370 was carrying fruit in wooden pallets for delivery to China."

 

[BenChiew]

Apparently the mangosteen pallets were sighted.

 

[nbp]

How "cleanly" can a plane crash into the ocean? I picture a jet hitting the water at full speed to disintegrate into lots of pieces creating a huge field of floating bits. I am surprised at the relatively small number of items that are being spotted and are worth investigating. Granted, we still don't actually know it hit the water...

 

[REDLINEVUE]

How "cleanly" can a plane crash into the ocean? I picture a jet hitting the water at full speed to disintegrate into lots of pieces creating a huge field of floating bits. I am surprised at the relatively small number of items that are being spotted and are worth investigating. Granted, we still don't actually know it hit the water...

Sully Sullenberger did a pretty good job of putting a plane down over water in basically one piece.... if the water was calm enough and the pilot somewhat accomplished, it can be done. What baffles me is how we can spot small object extremely far out in space using ground and/or geosynchronous telescopes with AMAZING accuracy.... but turn those telescope back to OUR planet and you can't give us better coordinates as to the location of this floating debris??? I would expect they should be able to say "go look here" and provide a 1/4mi search area.

 

[rednek]

I think there 'LOST' on the island!! :D

 

[BenChiew]

Ditching involves perfect timing and condition. Even if it breaks into large pieces, some will sink while others will float.
You need to remember that we are talking about an incident 2 weeks ago. Even a clustered debris can be miles apart after all that time and subjected to current and waves.

I have a feeling that they may never find the wreckage.