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Are you open to the new Xeray LeMax 70? You'll get far higher performance out of it and the quality is certainly comparable. Surefire HID's are not high performers relative to a few other big names in HID. The Lemax produces 160% of the Lumens output of the Arc2 and probably 2 times the candela, or more than the Arc2. I'd guess the Arc2 will cost significantly more than the LeMax - if it is ever available at all.
 
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How would you compare the quality of LEMAX versus Polarion (the Abyss Dual S specifically)?
Perhaps Patriot can comment to this question. Covering this question in both threads, this one and the current thread for our new XeRay lights.
 
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I was originally very sceptical that the Polarion would live up to its "quality hype" when I purchased mine. Ultimately though while I didn't end up disappointed... I wasn't exactly amazed either (hence why I eventually sold the light).

There's just something about Surefire's anodizing which I'm an extremely big sucker for. The Hellfighter just felt so much more solid versus the Polarion. It was a much nicer light to hold and feel.

Yeah, these really are secondary (or non-existent, really) concerns for most who purchase lights for their functional durability and output.

But these are details which I do admire as a collector.


Yes, the SF feels "solid" because the aluminum is machined to very thick dimensions. I come outdooring and backpacking background so I like a balance of weight vs. performance and I don't think weight was a consideration when SF designed to Beast. We know next to nothing about the Arc-2 and/or Arc-3 because SF still seems to have them in the prototype/may not ever be built except for SHOT Show stage.

If it's heft that you like, the LX70 is built like a tank and is the same weight as the Hell Fighter 5. It's also 1.5lbs heavier than the Polarion Abyss with heavier construction. Compared to the HF5, the LX70 throws much better, is 3000L brighter, has a far longer run-time and is waterproof to 50M rather than 1M. The Hell Fighter 5 is also more expensive and your paying for hardware that most people would never use, like the rapid attach/detach T-rail clamp that results in a compromised handle design that slings the light way below your point of hold and swivels. The LX70's handle is monolithic and sleek by comparison. Don't take by this that I don't like SF products because I do, but when I compare their HID products to what's currently available with regards to component quality and performance, I would have trouble spending more to get less. If you're just a collector who wants to try them all at one time or another, have at it! :)
 
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